Federer selfish with his country?

egn · Mar 9, 2009

veroniquem said:
From 1999 to 2004, Federer played 2 rounds for Davis cup every year with the regularity of a Swiss clock! In 2003 he even played 3 rounds (only time in his career.) Things changed after he became a big star. From 2005 onwards, he has played only one round every year. I guess this year will be his first year of not playing at all!
Nadal has played it even less than Federer. He hasn't played it at all in 2007, has played just one round in 2005 and 2006, 2 rounds in 2008 and 3 rounds only in 2004.
I don't think it has anything to do with selfishness, it's just that the schedule is already very packed for players who systematically go far in tournaments.

Truer words were never spoken. Whats sad is from 99 to 2004 he probably would have played more rounds if Swiss had played more. 2003 he was full set to go as far as he could but they could not make it past the 3rd round. But as you said the rise to the top cuts out Davis Cup play. Davis Cup does not get you points, I don't know how prize money works for Davis Cup..someone could enlighten me, but maintaining a top ranking and building a legend comes from winning the titles and slams, the Davis Cup is more of a nation thing. It establishes a nations dominance in the sport. Nobody is saying Switzerland is a tennis breeding machine because Fed is really the only success story, and when Fed is gone nobody will be crying over shocks of none top 10 players. But when countries like Australia and America are missing top 10..like Australia is right now and Sweden and France also as of recently do not have driving forces you notice. Because thats where the big names come from..not always the number 1 of an era but definitely driving forces..which is why they have a lot of Davis Cup titles.

Nadal_Freak said:
He's a liar. Not a big surprise.

Is there a post you do not troll. What about your boy Nadal he was injured for only Dubai..it was serious enough for him to miss Dubai and have you all cry screaming he is injured, but he then kicked ass on clay right after that..maybe Nadal lied to get out of Dubai so he could warm up on clay to beat Serbia. All you do is attempt to spread your propaganda. Training while being injuried or as you are recovering happens..we call it rehab here on earth. You know that thing you do to get back in shape, you should know all about it being a Nadal fan. He is constantly rehabbing after his knee injuries.

VivalaVida · Mar 9, 2009

Nadal_Freak said:
He's a liar. Not a big surprise.

veroniquem said:
What I don't understand is how he's been training hard with Cahill (according to rumors) when he is supposedly injured...

bunch of hypocrites. I am willing to bet the damn house that if nadal was supposedly injured like he is several times in the year, you guys would be on your knees praying your asses of for nadal and would be on this board expressing your sympathy for nadal's injury. Get a life, federer is a human to and he can get injured also.

Jackie T. Stephens · Mar 9, 2009

klementine79 said:
They really need to make Davis cup a bi-yearly event.

The tour is long and arduous. Have the davis cup matches sporadically played over a course of two years-- every two years-- the final.

I think this would add a level of attention being paid to davis cup.

It just gets lost in the tour schedule and the general sporting or even tennis consumer could not care less.

Having the final every two or four years (with more countries participating) would hold Davis Cup in the echelon of the world cup or olympics. Just my two cents.

Yes and there's a tournament every week.

federerdomination · Mar 9, 2009

Nadal_Freak said:
He's a liar. Not a big surprise.

Actually I thought it was mostly for preventative measures. Have u considered the possibility of he being healed?

Plus, u dont have to be 100% to be training. Look at Sharapova at IW. She's playing doubs even tho she's not 100%

And for all u know, Fed could really have been injured and then got healed. Before you call someone a liar, you must have evidence. Your argument is based purely on speculation.

veroniquem · Mar 9, 2009

VivalaVida said:
bunch of hypocrites. I am willing to bet the damn house that if nadal was supposedly injured like he is several times in the year, you guys would be on your knees praying your asses of for nadal and would be on this board expressing your sympathy for nadal's injury. Get a life, federer is a human to and he can get injured also.

So you think the rumors about training with Cahill for the last few weeks are false?

VivalaVida · Mar 9, 2009

veroniquem said:
So you think the rumors about training with Cahill for the last few weeks are false?

I dont know if they are true or not but I wouldnt call fed a liar. When you are injured you are expected to start training at some point and it is called rehab. I wouldnt make a big deal about it or call federer selfish. By this logic, people should call nadal selfish for not showing up to the DC final last year, oh wait he was injured! the poor guy, he is human after all. Federer isnt on the other hand, he is a liar and never injured!

Nadal_Freak · Mar 9, 2009

federerdomination said:
Actually I thought it was mostly for preventative measures. Have u considered the possibility of he being healed?

Plus, u dont have to be 100% to be training. Look at Sharapova at IW. She's playing doubs even tho she's not 100%

And for all u know, Fed could really have been injured and then got healed. Before you call someone a liar, you must have evidence. Your argument is based purely on speculation.

The evidence is that he called himself unable to play a month before it started. What a joke. Nadal did about a week but you have to make a decision at that point. A month is way too early to declare something like that.

paulorenzo · Mar 9, 2009

egn said:
Weird Federer played Davis CUp in 2001 and went 3-1 they got bounced early for lack of teammates with ability to play competently.
2002- 4-0 they got bounced first round but he helped them win the playoffs so they could stay in the main draw.
2003- 5-1..lead them to the semifinals
2004- 4-0..no teammates
2005- 1-0 wins his play off misses 1R match .
2006- 2-0 believe they were out of main draw not sure but wins play off matches
2007 - 2-0
2008 - 1-0 wins play off to get them back into main draw

So singles wise he is 22-2 in davis cup play since 2001..

Doubles performances
2006- 1-0
2007- 0-1
2008- 1-0 wins play off to get them back in

In Feds 4 years as number 1 Yves Allgero was way down on the decline and their was nobody else in Swiss pool that could help. Fed played in 2004 and 07 but in 05 and 06 his two peak years not much could be said. Fed was going to deep and playing 90+ matches a year flying to god knows where to play a davis cup match where he would win his 2 and lose 2-3 was rough. He does not blow Switzerland off and hell he played all those playoffs to get them back into it, but the first round is so early in the year.

Oh Nadal_Freak tell me about Nadal's davis cup activity prior to 2008. Please share me it.

Outside of 3-1 in 2004 where he played semis and finals from 05-07 He played less Davis CUp than Federer and Spain actually had good players. All they needed was that great player and they could have won more. So where was he than? Oh right focusing on his career...kind of like Fed was doing? Fed played prior to be ranked number 1 and during it there was nobody to help him. So now that he is sick we are supposed to go he is selfish when he has a 25-6 record in singles overall and a 10-5 record in doubles. He is combined 35-11 in Davis Cup play..He is better than the quote unquote Andy Roddick who thrives for the Davis cup who is 30-11. 30/41<25/31 Fed has less appearances because his team was not strong enough to make good runs. He missed this year, but lets see next year before you call him selfish. Nadal completely skipped 2007 when the struggling Spanish could have used him the most.

way to actually back up one's argument with substance.

saram · Mar 9, 2009

egn said:
Weird Federer played Davis CUp in 2001 and went 3-1 they got bounced early for lack of teammates with ability to play competently.
2002- 4-0 they got bounced first round but he helped them win the playoffs so they could stay in the main draw.
2003- 5-1..lead them to the semifinals
2004- 4-0..no teammates
2005- 1-0 wins his play off misses 1R match .
2006- 2-0 believe they were out of main draw not sure but wins play off matches
2007 - 2-0
2008 - 1-0 wins play off to get them back into main draw

So singles wise he is 22-2 in davis cup play since 2001..

Doubles performances
2006- 1-0
2007- 0-1
2008- 1-0 wins play off to get them back in

In Feds 4 years as number 1 Yves Allgero was way down on the decline and their was nobody else in Swiss pool that could help. Fed played in 2004 and 07 but in 05 and 06 his two peak years not much could be said. Fed was going to deep and playing 90+ matches a year flying to god knows where to play a davis cup match where he would win his 2 and lose 2-3 was rough. He does not blow Switzerland off and hell he played all those playoffs to get them back into it, but the first round is so early in the year.

Oh Nadal_Freak tell me about Nadal's davis cup activity prior to 2008. Please share me it.

Outside of 3-1 in 2004 where he played semis and finals from 05-07 He played less Davis CUp than Federer and Spain actually had good players. All they needed was that great player and they could have won more. So where was he than? Oh right focusing on his career...kind of like Fed was doing? Fed played prior to be ranked number 1 and during it there was nobody to help him. So now that he is sick we are supposed to go he is selfish when he has a 25-6 record in singles overall and a 10-5 record in doubles. He is combined 35-11 in Davis Cup play..He is better than the quote unquote Andy Roddick who thrives for the Davis cup who is 30-11. 30/41<25/31 Fed has less appearances because his team was not strong enough to make good runs. He missed this year, but lets see next year before you call him selfish. Nadal completely skipped 2007 when the struggling Spanish could have used him the most.

Great research here

egn · Mar 9, 2009

veroniquem said:
So you think the rumors about training with Cahill for the last few weeks are false?

No I do not think they are false, also I do not expect him to not be training and working on his fitness while being injuried. He wants to be in form when he gets back and not have a further setback. Nadal was training last fall when he missed Shanghai and was training and trying to get in best playing condition to play the Davis Cup final he was unable to as his injury was more severe than predicted but he was still training. It was everywhere. Players will still train during injuries, they cut regimes but try to get in top form.

Nadal_Freak said:
The evidence is that he called himself unable to play a month before it started. What a joke. Nadal did about a week but you have to make a decision at that point. A month is way too early to declare something like that.

Really? You once again are a doctor or something. Back it up with substance please. Find me Federer's injury, I believe it was to his back and find when he declared himself unable to play Dubai and find the average recovery time from this injury. You make these bold statements with absolutely nothing whatsoever backing them up. Oh by the way Federer pulled out of Dubai on Feb. 17th only two days before Nadal. So Fed pulled out 6 days before Nadal and Nadal pulled 4 days before. 6 days...one month...really close.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/7895679.stm

I would say BBC News is a good source. So really it was not some extreme amount. He suffered a back injury last fall and just like how Nadal's knees act up from too much tennis Federer is slowly showing that sign of aging and his backs up more and more. He said he is going to be taking the time to rehabilitate so I would say that involves some type of training.

federerdomination · Mar 9, 2009

Summary:

If Fed is injured = fake, liar, worst person on earth, should be banished from this world
If Nadal is injured = true, human, loads of sympathy, everyone should send him a get well card

icedevil0289 · Mar 9, 2009

federerdomination said:
Summary:

If Fed is injured = fake, liar, worst person on earth, should be banished from this world
If Nadal is injured = true, human, loads of sympathy, everyone should send him a get well card

don't forget for nadal there is also the never ending "his career is going to be over soon."

FD3S · Mar 9, 2009

federerdomination said:
Summary:

If Fed is injured = fake, liar, worst person on earth, should be banished from this world
If Nadal is injured = true, human, loads of sympathy, everyone should send him a get well card

This. Oh god, this.

random guy · Mar 9, 2009

Really weird thread here to call a player with 46 matches in DC and an olympic gold medal "unpatriotic".

ESP#1 · Mar 9, 2009

I didn't see any selfish threads when Nadal miss the Davis Cup final, how many times did Sampras play DC? Agassi missed alot also. Fed at the moment has alot on his plate, not to mention he's been injured i wouldn't say he's selfish maybe just being cautious

egn · Mar 9, 2009

random guy said:
Really weird thread here to call a player with 46 matches in DC and an olympic gold medal "unpatriotic".

Its he got sick and missed a 1R Davis Cup match...he needs to be more patrotic like Nadal and wait until Davis Cup finals.

That zing was so uncalled for but I had to go for it since that was this whole thread. Seriously though I would say both are pretty patriotic to the same time both also have their own careers. Fed could have easily let his loss at the olympics in singles ruined doubles, but no he clearly stated he wanted an olympic gold to be home. Let us also not forget Nadal was constantly calling the stadium where the Davis Cup finals were played to keep in touch and give his input. The two respect their countries and are loyal a great deal.

edmondsm · Mar 9, 2009

veroniquem said:
So you think the rumors about training with Cahill for the last few weeks are false?

So you think when a player is injured or recouping they just go sit on the beach and drink Coronas? It's amazing witnessing the little pro-NAdal/anti-Fed world you've invented for yourself.

veroniquem · Mar 9, 2009

edmondsm said:
So you think when a player is injured or recouping they just go sit on the beach and drink Coronas? It's amazing witnessing the little pro-NAdal/anti-Fed world you've invented for yourself.

I know if I had a bad back I would want to put the racquet down for a while.

edmondsm · Mar 9, 2009

veroniquem said:
I know if I had a bad back I would want to put the racquet down for a while.

YOU would put the racquet down for a while? Is that supposed to be empirical evidence that Federer is lying about his back injury?

tudwell · Mar 9, 2009

egn said:
Its he got sick and missed a 1R Davis Cup match...he needs to be more patrotic like Nadal and wait until Davis Cup finals.

This is WIN.

devila · Mar 9, 2009

Wawrinka won the doubles match?
What's new? Federer's supposed to congratulate his country for a team effort? Yet, Davis Cup humiliates him because it's not just a doubles match....
he could lose to Roddick and Nadal
(despite being so beautifully natural and talented :lol: ). Hell, even Hewitt beat Federer after the 2 sets and a break deficit. The painful grin on Federer's face says it all.

veroniquem · Mar 9, 2009

edmondsm said:
YOU would put the racquet down for a while? Is that supposed to be empirical evidence that Federer is lying about his back injury?

No, just ordinary common sense. I can't see why common sense shouldn't apply to Federer just because he happens to be a good tennis player. If your back hurts, take it easy until it's better. How are you gonna recover if you keep playing? (whether for practice or for competition).

saram · Mar 9, 2009

federerdomination said:
Summary:

If Fed is injured = fake, liar, worst person on earth, should be banished from this world
If Nadal is injured = true, human, loads of sympathy, everyone should send him a get well card

EPIC. Greatest post in the last two years!

tennis_hand · Mar 9, 2009

Britain should have asked Murray to play also.
Murray is unpatriotic because he didn't play. :roll:

Mkie7 · Mar 9, 2009

Nadal_Freak said:
Yeah the one thing that he could play for a team for he blows off. He just wants to play for his own glory.

Why would you care or worry about someone you don't like. The more you predictable you are., the more you deminish your credibility even if you have valid point. Federer does not give a 'fish' what you think of him...

mandy01 · Mar 9, 2009

veroniquem said:
What I don't understand is how he's been training hard with Cahill (according to rumors) when he is supposedly injured...

He was in Switzerland taking treatment for his back,then came to Dubai for training.He's not severely injured but his back just dosent feel 100 % and there's no point in taking the risk of playing ,which can cause a serious injury.

iriraz · Mar 9, 2009

Let`s be realistic.Even if Federer played against the US in best case the swiss would have won that tie.No more then that and they wouldn`t have had a shot for the title anyways.
There would have been like 0 chance Federer would have played in second round anyways.It`s just a week after Wimbledon and seeing Federer on court after that it`s pretty impossible

BreakPoint · Mar 10, 2009

Nadal_Freak said:
He is definitely selfish. He should be more proud of his country and play for them. He keeps blowing them off.

Wow, what a surprise! YOU, of all people, criticizing Federer? Who would have imagined it? :roll:

So was Nadal also being "selfish" for skipping the Davis Cup final a few months ago?

BreakPoint · Mar 10, 2009

BERDI4 said:
Fed didn't play the davis cup against the US. All the rest played: Nadal, Roddick, Djokovic (Nalb was sick but they didnt need him really). Don't you think he's rather selfish with his country? He would make a good team with Wawrinka and Switzerand could have a good oportunity.

Federer did indeed commit to playing Davis Cup this year. He was planning to play in the tie against the U.S. and was on the team all the way up until two weeks before the tie when his back started to give him trouble again so he thought it was best that he rest and allowed his back to fully heal.

BreakPoint · Mar 10, 2009

thalivest said:
Definitely agreed. I feel badly for Wawrinka who is a good #2 guy who can be part of a serious Davis Cup contending team as a #2 singles and doubles player, but obviously isnt good enough to carry a team over the top countries as the #1. He is being denied a chance to shine and play a great role in something special in his career by Federer's selfish attitude too. Even with his own selfish way of thinking though, if Fed were smart he would realize his own likelihood to never win the French Open, or perhaps even an Olympic gold in singles given that he will be 31 in 2012, means that the lack of a Davis Cup title gives him an even more incomplete resume as it is.

You mean like how selfish Federer denied Wawrinka a doubles Olymppic gold medal? :roll:

BreakPoint · Mar 10, 2009

klementine79 said:
Federer's Davis cup record--

Total
won 35
lost 11

Nadal's Davis Cup record--

Total
won 13
lost 5

So Federer has a better winning percentage in Davis Cup than Nadal. Interesting.

I guess that must prove that Nadal doesn't care about Davis Cup? :shock:

LOL

BreakPoint · Mar 10, 2009

Nadal_Freak said:
He's a liar. Not a big surprise.

Is that your response for Nadal skipping out of all of those Davis Cup ties throughout his career?

veroniquem said:
Nadal has played it even less than Federer. He hasn't played it at all in 2007, has played just one round in 2005 and 2006, 2 rounds in 2008 and 3 rounds only in 2004.

BreakPoint · Mar 10, 2009

Nadal_Freak said:
The evidence is that he called himself unable to play a month before it started. What a joke. Nadal did about a week but you have to make a decision at that point. A month is way too early to declare something like that.

And how do you know how severe his back injury is? And how do you know if his doctors didn't tell him he has to take several weeks off to fully heal his back? :-?

devila · Mar 10, 2009

Roddick played with vomiting and injury problems. Obviously, Federer was scared of looking unspecial with a loser team.
No one can blame him. Not even Wawrinka. After all, Olympics allowed TEAMS as well as Federer's failed SINGLES play. Federer complained on the Regis and Kelly Show about looking "failed" after losing the 2004 Olympics.

BreakPoint · Mar 10, 2009

veroniquem said:
I know if I had a bad back I would want to put the racquet down for a while.

Because you're also a world-class tennis player and need to stay in shape to get back to #1 in the world? :-?

cottontail · Mar 10, 2009

veroniquem said:
F
Nadal has played it even less than Federer. He hasn't played it at all in 2007, has played just one round in 2005 and 2006, 2 rounds in 2008 and 3 rounds only in 2004.

Nadal played all four ties in 2004, not three.
In 2005 and 2006, there were only two ties for Spain as they lost in the World Group first round, and Nadal played three of the four. He missed the first round in 2006 due to the foot injury which saw him out of the Australian Open as well.

So it's basically the two ties each in 2007 and 2008 that he was not available, and we all know why he had to pulled out from the last year's final.
The other three ties were:
The first round in 2008 against Peru, which Spain won 5-0.
The first round in 2007 against Switzerland, which Spain won 3-2.
The QF in 2007 against USA which Spain lost 1-4.
I don't remember what were the reason for his withdrawals in those three ties, but I think there were some injury concerns in the 2007 QF. Will appreciate if someone enlightens me.

http://www.daviscup.com/teams/player.asp?Player=100007935
http://www.daviscup.com/teams/teamwinloss.asp?team=ESP

BreakPoint said:
Is that your response for Nadal skipping out of all of those Davis Cup ties throughout his career?

You were given wrong information and maybe you can call Nadal skipping the ties in the above three occasions.

tahiti · Mar 10, 2009

Nadal_Freak said:
He is definitely selfish. He should be more proud of his country and play for them. He keeps blowing them off.

Nadal_Freak

I'm beginning to wonder if someone paid you to come here and heat things up

While I totally agree with you about Rafa being, the best, the no. 1, a goat and all the wonderful things he is, I think it would be really nice for Rafans here if you maybe just added a little less fuel to the fire....would that be possible?

I know you've probably been hit hard by bashing here as 80% of people here are guilty. Problem is, most here see things very black/white and with one stroke, paint us all the same colour. Apartheid is an ugly thing.

Of course we all hold our own opinions and beliefs, but sometimes it shows more class to not say what we think so directly. When everyone jumps on the bandwagon it becomes such a "tacky" forum and I don't think that is what is tennis is about. What do you think?

Regardless of whether a players is sick, faking or we just don't know, it's not fair to attack the character of someone we do not even know. I'm sure in real life we wouldn't use someone as a dart-board. It's easy to hide in the virtual world but it's still people we're dealing with here.

All I'm saying is that you're making it hard for Rafans because those who just can't contain themself or be objective begin the childish name calling and insult game. I hope you understand what I mean.

Gen · Mar 10, 2009

edmondsm said:
Uh, how long have you been watching tennis? Federer has been carrying the Swiss team by himself for a decade. Now he's old and needs a break and ou call him selfish? Ridiculous IMO.

And you have some very special tennis opportunities. Since Federer hasn't played DC for the last 2-3 years, still "he has been carrying the Swiss team for a decade" and he is 27 now, does it mean that he started playing for the national team of an excellent age of 14?

BreakPoint · Mar 10, 2009

Gen said:
And you have some very special tennis opportunities. Since Federer hasn't played DC for the last 2-3 years, still "he has been carrying the Swiss team for a decade" and he is 27 now, does it mean that he started playing for the national team of an excellent age of 14?

Huh? Federer played Davis Cup in 2006, 2007, and 2008. FYI, that would be the last 3 years. Look it up.

Gen · Mar 10, 2009

BreakPoint said:
Is that your response for Nadal skipping out of all of those Davis Cup ties throughout his career?

Why don't you learn something before posting? Nadal is the youngest DC champion in the history of tennis. He played for his team in 2004 when he was 17-18 years old. He played all the important matches (where tough competition was expected) except 2006 when he was out with the foot injury. Last yeat he missed Round 2 where Spain played vs some obscure South Americal team, and Nadal wasn't required. He played Round 2 and semifinals and had to withdraw from the finals because of tendonitis which also kept him away from the Final Championship. It looks as if your blind hatred towards Nadal prevents you from reading even.

BreakPoint · Mar 10, 2009

Gen said:
Why don't you learn something before posting? Nadal is the youngest DC champion in the history of tennis. He played for his team in 2004 when he was 17-18 years old. He played all the important matches (where tough competition was expected) except 2006 when he was out with the foot injury. Last yeat he missed Round 2 where Spain played vs some obscure South Americal team, and Nadal wasn't required. He played Round 2 and semifinals and had to withdraw from the finals because of tendonitis which also kept him away from the Final Championship. It looks as if your blind hatred towards Nadal prevents you from reading even.

Are you referring to yourself? :-?

Oh, and Federer played Davis Cup for Switzerland in 1999, when he was.....wait for it...17 years old!

Gen said:
And you have some very special tennis opportunities. Since Federer hasn't played DC for the last 2-3 years, still "he has been carrying the Swiss team for a decade" and he is 27 now, does it mean that he started playing for the national team of an excellent age of 14?

BreakPoint said:
Huh? Federer played Davis Cup in 2006, 2007, and 2008. FYI, that would be the last 3 years. Look it up.

BreakPoint · Mar 10, 2009

Gen said:
Why don't you learn something before posting? Nadal is the youngest DC champion in the history of tennis. He played for his team in 2004 when he was 17-18 years old. He played all the important matches (where tough competition was expected) except 2006 when he was out with the foot injury. Last yeat he missed Round 2 where Spain played vs some obscure South Americal team, and Nadal wasn't required. He played Round 2 and semifinals and had to withdraw from the finals because of tendonitis which also kept him away from the Final Championship. It looks as if your blind hatred towards Nadal prevents you from reading even.

So, let me summarize. What you're saying is this?

federerdomination said:
Summary:

If Fed is injured = fake, liar, worst person on earth, should be banished from this world
If Nadal is injured = true, human, loads of sympathy, everyone should send him a get well card

egn · Mar 10, 2009

Gen said:
And you have some very special tennis opportunities. Since Federer hasn't played DC for the last 2-3 years, still "he has been carrying the Swiss team for a decade" and he is 27 now, does it mean that he started playing for the national team of an excellent age of 14?

He has played 05 to 07 as much as NAdal did and he is the only reason his team stayed in the world group.
Decade is 10 years 27-10=17 age fed started playing.

egn · Mar 10, 2009

Gen said:
Why don't you learn something before posting? Nadal is the youngest DC champion in the history of tennis. He played for his team in 2004 when he was 17-18 years old. He played all the important matches (where tough competition was expected) except 2006 when he was out with the foot injury. Last yeat he missed Round 2 where Spain played vs some obscure South Americal team, and Nadal wasn't required. He played Round 2 and semifinals and had to withdraw from the finals because of tendonitis which also kept him away from the Final Championship. It looks as if your blind hatred towards Nadal prevents you from reading even.

See our hatred did not spawn such a thread where the OP who had no knowledge of fed and Davis cup attempted to attack him for being injuries. Nadal missed the finals big deal he was injuries none of us care but when people start going someone is unpatriotic and should be like said other person who has missed rounds hell yea we are going to expose that. Our Arguments had factual substance look through the thread more blind fed hatred than nadal especially the first page.

Gen · Mar 10, 2009

egn said:
He has played 05 to 07 as much as NAdal did and he is the only reason his team stayed in the world group.
Decade is 10 years 27-10=17 age fed started playing.

Wikipedia mentions only three Federer's entries to DC (1998, 2001, 2002).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Federer#2006

There must be another one ca. 3 years ago where he trash-talked Djokovic.

If you can find some positive proof of Federer diligently playing for Switzerland all these years, it will be welcome (this is not a joke).

luckyboy1300 · Mar 10, 2009

Gen said:
Wikipedia mentions only three Federer's entries to DC (1998, 2001, 2002).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Federer#2006

There must be another one ca. 3 years ago where he trash-talked Djokovic.

If you can find some positive proof of Federer diligently playing for Switzerland all these years, it will be welcome (this is not a joke).

http://www.daviscup.com/teams/player.asp?player=10019424

Gen · Mar 10, 2009

luckyboy1300 said:
http://www.daviscup.com/teams/player.asp?player=10019424

Thanks. Always thought that this info was available somewhere. Couldn't find though.

veroniquem · Mar 10, 2009

cottontail said:
Nadal played all four ties in 2004, not three.
In 2005 and 2006, there were only two ties for Spain as they lost in the World Group first round, and Nadal played three of the four. He missed the first round in 2006 due to the foot injury which saw him out of the Australian Open as well.

So it's basically the two ties each in 2007 and 2008 that he was not available, and we all know why he had to pulled out from the last year's final.
The other three ties were:
The first round in 2008 against Peru, which Spain won 5-0.
The first round in 2007 against Switzerland, which Spain won 3-2.
The QF in 2007 against USA which Spain lost 1-4.
I don't remember what were the reason for his withdrawals in those three ties, but I think there were some injury concerns in the 2007 QF. Will appreciate if someone enlightens me.

http://www.daviscup.com/teams/player.asp?Player=100007935
http://www.daviscup.com/teams/teamwinloss.asp?team=ESP

You were given wrong information and maybe you can call Nadal skipping the ties in the above three occasions.

According to the ATP site, he played 3 ties in 2004. Did they make a mistake?

veroniquem · Mar 10, 2009

BreakPoint said:
Because you're also a world-class tennis player and need to stay in shape to get back to #1 in the world? :-?

Why? Bad backs do not affect pro tennis players the same way as everybody else? I would think it's worse since they have to strain their back when they serve...

edmondsm · Mar 10, 2009

Gen said:
Thanks. Always thought that this info was available somewhere. Couldn't find though.

Wow. You never thought to check DAVISCUP.COM??? How old are you? Just get a computer? Or did you just feel like taking a swipe at my post regardless of whether you had any evidence to back up your "facts".

Federer selfish with his country?

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