Carla Suarez Navarro

sureshs · Apr 13, 2009

I was really impressed with her 1 handed BH in the Andalusia final against Jankovic. She is a poor-woman's Henin. But I have a feeling her style will not be conducive to faster surfaces. Not enough time for the loop setup. She should also develop a quick slice for those situations.

I am also working on a theory about women and 1 handed BHs, specially ones that have topspin. The theory is based on observations of Navarro and Henin. Maybe even Navratilova. To put it delicately, I wonder if women who are not well-endowed in certain respects are better suited for 1 handed backhands. Being well-endowed could interfere in the closed stance positioning and across the body movement of the dominant arm.

Please comment on my theory. Keep it decent. It is a scientific discussion.

Mick · Apr 13, 2009

she upset venus williams at the 2009 AO, and wasn't that match played on a fast surface ?

i don't know if her backhand was to blame for the loss. from what i have read, it seems she ran out of gas in the 3rd set.

vandre · Apr 14, 2009

sureshs said:
I was really impressed with her 1 handed BH in the Andalusia final against Jankovic. She is a poor-woman's Henin. But I have a feeling her style will not be conducive to faster surfaces. Not enough time for the loop setup. She should also develop a quick slice for those situations.

I am also working on a theory about women and 1 handed BHs, specially ones that have topspin. The theory is based on observations of Navarro and Henin. Maybe even Navratilova. To put it delicately, I wonder if women who are not well-endowed in certain respects are better suited for 1 handed backhands. Being well-endowed could interfere in the closed stance positioning and across the body movement of the dominant arm.

Please comment on my theory. Keep it decent. It is a scientific discussion.

interesting theory. what about sabatini?

shell · Apr 14, 2009

sureshs said:
I was really impressed with her 1 handed BH in the Andalusia final against Jankovic. She is a poor-woman's Henin. But I have a feeling her style will not be conducive to faster surfaces. Not enough time for the loop setup. She should also develop a quick slice for those situations.

I am also working on a theory about women and 1 handed BHs, specially ones that have topspin. The theory is based on observations of Navarro and Henin. Maybe even Navratilova. To put it delicately, I wonder if women who are not well-endowed in certain respects are better suited for 1 handed backhands. Being well-endowed could interfere in the closed stance positioning and across the body movement of the dominant arm.

Please comment on my theory. Keep it decent. It is a scientific discussion.

I think there are too many other factors going on with the BH to make that analagy. It would be like saying the better movers in the men's game are all small, well, to put it delicately, in the crotch area.

Sorry, but that is the best coorelation I could come up with.

RalphNYC · Apr 14, 2009

ridiculous "theory" - the right arm crosses the chest with either 1H or 2H to prepare, and by the time the ball is struck the arms are exended. If anything, the one-hander allows more breathing room.

BreakPoint · Apr 14, 2009

RalphNYC said:
ridiculous "theory" - the right arm crosses the chest with either 1H or 2H to prepare, and by the time the ball is struck the arms are exended. If anything, the one-hander allows more breathing room.

Exactly! You are much more constricted across the chest with a two-handed backhand than with a one-handed backhand. With a one-handed backhand, your right arm swings out and away from your body. With a two-handed backhand, your left arm comes across your chest and squeezes your chest. So if anything, big boobs would hinder 2HBH's much more than 1HBH's and small boobs would make it less constrictive to swing 2HBH's.

quest01 · Apr 14, 2009

Navarro was an interesting player to watch at the Australian Open; she has a classic game with the one handed backhand. For an ugly looking girl with a goofy haircut and a funny walk shes a decent player who could possibly crack the top 10 someday.

Leublu tennis · Apr 14, 2009

quest01 said:
Navarro was an interesting player to watch at the Australian Open; she has a classic game with the one handed backhand. For an ugly looking girl with a goofy haircut and a funny walk shes a decent player who could possibly crack the top 10 someday.

Hey, hey. So she walks like a duck. She talks like a duck, but .... maybe she is a pigeon.

marpiw · Apr 14, 2009

Who is this girl?.........

Who is this girl?...She seems to be Argentine and she also seems to be the new Gabriela Sabatini.....
For the description everybody makes in this thread she must be playing like Gaby and in the same style....
I've never saw her playing a complete match,I saw her once in a news program on TV but her face was not shown...
So I think that we are welcoming a new Gaby....Please tell me where is she going to play her next tournament...thanks..

RalphNYC · Apr 14, 2009

quest01 said:
For an ugly looking girl with a goofy haircut and a funny walk shes a decent player who could possibly crack the top 10 someday.

Is this really so unusual? Navratilova? Billy Jean King? Davenport? Dare I say, Graff?

BreakPoint · Apr 14, 2009

marpiw said:
Who is this girl?...She seems to be Argentine and she also seems to be the new Gabriela Sabatini.....
For the description everybody makes in this thread she must be playing like Gaby and in the same style....
I've never saw her playing a complete match,I saw her once in a news program on TV but her face was not shown...
So I think that we are welcoming a new Gaby....Please tell me where is she going to play her next tournament...thanks..

She's Spanish.

Her semis and final from the Andalucia Tennis Experience in Marabello, Spain were shown on Tennis Channel this past weekend. If they repeat it, you should watch it. You will be amazed by her backhand.

bladepdb · Apr 14, 2009

shell said:
I think there are too many other factors going on with the BH to make that analagy. It would be like saying the better movers in the men's game are all small, well, to put it delicately, in the crotch area. Sorry, but that is the best coorelation I could come up with.

Yeah and with Mofils being one fo the better movers in the men's game, and him being of African American descent....you can see where I'm going with this

Kinda disproves that xD

marpiw · Apr 14, 2009

Thanks for your info,I surely will be alert and will not miss the program...

BreakPoint said:
She's Spanish.

Her semis and final from the Andalucia Tennis Experience in Marabello, Spain were shown on Tennis Channel this past weekend. If they repeat it, you should watch it. You will be amazed by her backhand.

NandoMania · Apr 14, 2009

Match made in heaven:
Carla Suarez Navarro + Radek Stepanek

sureshs · Apr 14, 2009

RalphNYC said:
ridiculous "theory" - the right arm crosses the chest with either 1H or 2H to prepare, and by the time the ball is struck the arms are exended. If anything, the one-hander allows more breathing room.

Not always. There are 4 variants - both arms stretched, one bent, the other bent, or both bent.

Do you agree that the open stance 2 hander is less likely to be "obstructed"?

sureshs · Apr 14, 2009

NandoMania said:
Match made in heaven:
Carla Suarez Navarro + Radek Stepanek

They are both beautiful on the inside.

shell · Apr 14, 2009

bladepdb said:
Yeah and with Mofils being one fo the better movers in the men's game, and him being of African American descent....you can see where I'm going with this Kinda disproves that xD

If you read my post you would see that I was pointing out no correlation...if you read my post that is.

BreakPoint · Apr 14, 2009

bladepdb said:
Yeah and with Mofils being one fo the better movers in the men's game, and him being of African American descent....you can see where I'm going with this Kinda disproves that xD

How is Monfils "of African American descent"?

He's French. He's not any kind of American at all.

Cesc Fabregas · Apr 14, 2009

Her one hander is a sexy shot.

emerckx53 · Apr 14, 2009

sureshs said:
I was really impressed with her 1 handed BH in the Andalusia final against Jankovic. She is a poor-woman's Henin. But I have a feeling her style will not be conducive to faster surfaces. Not enough time for the loop setup. She should also develop a quick slice for those situations.

I am also working on a theory about women and 1 handed BHs, specially ones that have topspin. The theory is based on observations of Navarro and Henin. Maybe even Navratilova. To put it delicately, I wonder if women who are not well-endowed in certain respects are better suited for 1 handed backhands. Being well-endowed could interfere in the closed stance positioning and across the body movement of the dominant arm.

Please comment on my theory. Keep it decent. It is a scientific discussion.

Here is my comment....go practice and stay away from the keyboard

tenniscool · Apr 14, 2009

Cesc Fabregas said:
Her one hander is a sexy shot.

Agreed!
I really want her to be in the top10 that would be awesome haha

bladepdb · Apr 14, 2009

BreakPoint said:
How is Monfils "of African American descent"? He's French. He's not any kind of American at all.

*Blonde moment* Yeah I tried to go politically correct -- shows what happens when I do so

aimr75 · Apr 14, 2009

dont think she would get much of a mention on these boards if it wasnt for her 1 handed backhand..

btw, she has a nice backhand

Storm_Kyori · Apr 14, 2009

What grip does she use, I'm watching it on youtube the AO match with Venus and the commentator says she is using the same side of the racquet. Like Jelena does with her FH/BH. That 1hander is awesome, deep and lots of pace.

tenniscool · Apr 14, 2009

damn i was just watching her recent clay court matches and she is basically justine henin, just not quite yet :O!

1970CRBase · Apr 14, 2009

What racquet is she using there?

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0d4n8O7gleb1k/610x.jpg

& yes, if Carla were another 2 hander, she wouldn't be interesting to watch at all.

1970CRBase · Apr 15, 2009

sureshs said:
I was really impressed with her 1 handed BH in the Andalusia final against Jankovic. She is a poor-woman's Henin. But I have a feeling her style will not be conducive to faster surfaces. Not enough time for the loop setup. She should also develop a quick slice for those situations.

I am also working on a theory about women and 1 handed BHs, specially ones that have topspin. The theory is based on observations of Navarro and Henin. Maybe even Navratilova. To put it delicately, I wonder if women who are not well-endowed in certain respects are better suited for 1 handed backhands. Being well-endowed could interfere in the closed stance positioning and across the body movement of the dominant arm.

Please comment on my theory. Keep it decent. It is a scientific discussion.

Have you tried conducting a practical experiment yourself? For the sake of science, you know. ie : strap a couple of grapefruit or tie a pair of jugs on your chest hehe

1970CRBase · Apr 15, 2009

Australian Open 2009 - VWilliams vs Navarro

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=A2CBAF67925BA8D0

sureshs · Apr 15, 2009

Storm_Kyori said:
What grip does she use, I'm watching it on youtube the AO match with Venus and the commentator says she is using the same side of the racquet.

It is possible. Extreme Eastern on the BH = Western on the FH. She can continue using the same racquet face on both sides, though usually players will come to the neutral (Continental) first, and then move the grip over to the opposite side, resulting in a different racquet face.

sureshs · Apr 15, 2009

tenniscool said:
damn i was just watching her recent clay court matches and she is basically justine henin, just not quite yet :O!

Remains to be seen if the BH holds up on faster courts.

thejoe · Apr 15, 2009

quest01 said:
Navarro was an interesting player to watch at the Australian Open; she has a classic game with the one handed backhand. For an ugly looking girl with a goofy haircut and a funny walk shes a decent player who could possibly crack the top 10 someday.

She looks like Mel from Flight Of The Conchords.

jmverdugo · Apr 15, 2009

sureshs said:
I was really impressed with her 1 handed BH in the Andalusia final against Jankovic. She is a poor-woman's Henin. But I have a feeling her style will not be conducive to faster surfaces. Not enough time for the loop setup. She should also develop a quick slice for those situations.

I really dislike this expresion.

shell said:
I think there are too many other factors going on with the BH to make that analagy. It would be like saying the better movers in the men's game are all small, well, to put it delicately, in the crotch area. Sorry, but that is the best coorelation I could come up with.

What is an "analagy"? ..... j/k

BreakPoint said:
How is Monfils "of African American descent"? He's French. He's not any kind of American at all.

LOL, good catch...

jmverdugo · Apr 15, 2009

sureshs said:
Remains to be seen if the BH holds up on faster courts.

I would say that playing against Serena at the AO was more than enough proof of it.

sureshs · Apr 15, 2009

She should marry Stan Wawrinka. Their children will have the best 1 handers in the sport ever.

sureshs · Apr 15, 2009

jmverdugo said:
I really dislike this expresion.

What is an "analagy"? ..... j/k

LOL, good catch...

jmverdugo said:
I would say that playing against Serena at the AO was more than enough probe of it.

Proof is the word?

You seem to be obsessed with anal and probe.

jmverdugo · Apr 15, 2009

sureshs said:
Proof is the word?

You seem to be obsessed with anal and probe.

LOL good catch, I shall edit it...

sureshs · Apr 15, 2009

What's with the name Navarro? Does it denote a person from an "indigenous" community in Spain?

shell · Apr 15, 2009

jmverdugo said:
I really dislike this expresion.

What is an "analagy"? ..... j/k

LOL, good catch...

An analagy is a typo, sometimes inserted by mistake when trying to type the word analogy.

yeah, I also dislike that "expresion", especially when it is spelled incorrectly. Do you mean expression?

Muaahahaha, I'm just giving you grief.

:twisted:

jmverdugo · Apr 15, 2009

^^ holy cr@p! Im 2 for 2 today! I better double check those emails I am sending today.

shell · Apr 15, 2009

sureshs said:
Remains to be seen if the BH holds up on faster courts.

Agree with you. She still needs some work, but she is refreshing to watch. Same with the forehand. I think she will need to shorten that a bit for faster courts.

Topaz · Apr 15, 2009

quest01 said:
Navarro was an interesting player to watch at the Australian Open; she has a classic game with the one handed backhand. For an ugly looking girl with a goofy haircut and a funny walk shes a decent player who could possibly crack the top 10 someday.

Uh, what does her looks and walk have to do with her possibly being top 10 talent?

Interesting.

How about this:

For a professional athlete who has worked very hard and has some great looking strokes she has a decent chance to crack the top 10 someday.

BreakPoint · Apr 15, 2009

marpiw said:
Thanks for your info,I surely will be alert and will not miss the program...

The Tennis Channel is replaying Navarro's awesome semifinal against Cirstea RIGHT NOW!!!!

sureshs · Apr 15, 2009

BreakPoint said:
The Tennis Channel is replaying Navarro's awesome semifinal against Cirstea RIGHT NOW!!!!

And you are focusing on Navarro's BH and Cirstea's looks, aren't you? Quite a treat for you.

BreakPoint · Apr 15, 2009

sureshs said:
And you are focusing on Navarro's BH and Cirstea's looks, aren't you? Quite a treat for you.

Guilty as charged.

Avril_lover7 · Apr 16, 2009

is this something i imagine or is it true,, that one Back-handed players need more energy to hit a one back-hand shot !!!?

Avril_lover7 · Apr 16, 2009

i'm saying this coz when i try to hit a one-back-hand shot, it's thouhER than a tow back-hand shot !!!1

sureshs · Apr 16, 2009

Avril_lover7 said:
is this something i imagine or is it true,, that one Back-handed players need more energy to hit a one back-hand shot !!!?

Depends. 1 hander requires more strength to pull off, but a lazier shot is also possible to just keep the ball in play.

_mats_ · Apr 16, 2009

sureshs said:
What's with the name Navarro? Does it denote a person from an "indigenous" community in Spain?

Its a patronymic name that stems from Navarra (Nafarroa in Basque) in the Basque country

jmverdugo · Apr 16, 2009

_mats_ said:
Its a patronymic name that stems from Navarra (Nafarroa in Basque) in the Basque country

That may be the origin but is a very common last name not only in spain but in latin america too. Im just wondering why on erth suresh would think that it was an "indigenous" name.

_mats_ · Apr 16, 2009

jmverdugo said:
That may be the origin but is a very common last name not only in spain but in latin america too. Im just wondering why on erth suresh would think that it was an "indigenous" name.

I agree, I don't think Suresh meant that though

Indigenous does not necessarily mean anything related to "indians".

Indigenous means "rooted in" or something from a particular place.

Indigenous peoples, population groups with ancestral connections to place prior to formally recorded (i.e. written) history (could be anywhere, Asia, Europe, America, etc), indigenous plants, indigenous minerals..etc.

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