When he got steamrolled by Soderling!:twisted:While most fans agree Federer’s turning point this year was his win in Madrid, but what about Nadal?
What was Nadal’s turning point for his 2009 pitfall?
While most fans agree Federer’s turning point this year was his win in Madrid, but what about Nadal?
What was Nadal’s turning point for his 2009 pitfall?
When he got steamrolled by Soderling!:twisted:
It was a fantastic day
You (+ every fedfan) were probably relieved more than happy, knowing the only way Federer would win is by someone else playing Fed in the final instead of nadal, who, lets face it, has handled Federer on clay pretty easily.
Did you even look at the poll?
Who handled who's better the last time they met on clay?
Well, you cant live in the past, live today! And the last time Federer-Nadal played on clay Fed won pretty easy in 2 straight sets.You (+ every fedfan) were probably relieved more than happy, knowing the only way Federer would win is by someone else playing Fed in the final instead of nadal, who, lets face it, has handled Federer on clay pretty easily.
How about the rest off the players have improved on clay?Frankly, I think Nadal didn't play great the whole clay court season. He was stretched, even though he won pretty much everything. His stats (UE-Winners) were also pretty poor for his standards. In 2008 he pretty much blew everyone off the court.
I think it was from playing too many events such as Rotterdam and Barcelona, and over training.
Well, you cant live in the past, live today! And the last time Federer-Nadal played on clay Fed won pretty easy in 2 straight sets.
Soderling knocking Nadal out of Paris didnt do any damage too Federer im sure, who cares?? If Nadal cant find a way too get through to GS-finals-thats too bad! Fed can.
How about the rest off the players have improved on clay?
Maybe he did, who knows?But i think Federer did say to himself 'this could be by last chance to win FO, without nadal this could also be the best chance i'll get too'
Well again, maybe his opponents had something too do with that. When you drop the ball short-there might be a reason for that.Winners to unforced ratios for Nadal were poor. He kept dropping the ball short. Nadal didn't play nearly as well as he did last year - that's a fact.
I kept thinking almost all the way through the clay season: "Incredible how crappy Nadal can play (by his standards) and still win everything!"
Dont listen too this crazy Dane, hes had too much beer!where is the "other" option? why make a poll like this??? its pretty clear that Rafa got injured because of his insane schedule and dropped the #1 spot due to his inactivity.. the options in this poll is BS,
Well again, maybe his opponents had something too do with that. When you drop the ball short-there might be a reason for that.
Hard to tell, alright then-fair enough.What's the definition of an unforced error? And obviously I am not referring to Nadal dropping the ball short when it's being blasted from the other side.
How about the rest off the players have improved on clay?
Nadal was injured this whole year, and last, and the one before that, and so on. So it is hard to pin point any time/date.
LMAO!!! so suddently the whole pro-tour improved their clayskills over night huh? and improved so much that they could beat the king of clay LOL, sounds very logic
why is it so hard to admit that rafa killed himself this season? like it or not he is GOAT on clay and dominated everybody since he was a teenager deal with it!!
Suddenly? it was 1 year since the last clay-season.LMAO!!! so suddently the whole pro-tour improved their clayskills over night huh? and improved so much that they could beat the king of clay LOL, sounds very logic
why is it so hard to admit that rafa killed himself this season? like it or not he is GOAT on clay and dominated everybody since he was a teenager deal with it!!
Nadal was injured this whole year, and last, and the one before that, and so on. So it is hard to pin point any time/date.
:twisted::twisted:after a lot of research, the scientific community finally pinpointed the date:
June 3rd, 1986
Dont listen too this crazy Dane, hes had too much beer!
where is the "other" option? why make a poll like this??? its pretty clear that Rafa got injured because of his insane schedule and dropped the #1 spot due to his inactivity.. the options in this poll is BS,
Are you telling everyone who disagrees with you that?? Fantastic.LOL you two seem to team up everytime, are you dating or going steady?
you sure make me laugh king of clay: Fed LMAO.. Borg, yes he was good in the stoneage, today he would get killed out there..
LOL you two seem to team up everytime, are you dating or going steady?
you sure make me laugh king of clay: Fed LMAO.. Borg, yes he was good in the stoneage, today he would get killed out there..
ExactlyHe was having a Soderling syndrome, not b/c of an insane schedule.
But seriously, drak, don't you think Nadal's playing too many mickey mouse events has something to do with his poor results and injuries towards the ends of seasons (historically) or towards the middle in this case?
Yeah its hard too win when you get 2 goals taken away by a referee who had white& red underwear!:evil:too much beer? that was you and the rest of your little swedish friends this saturday when we beat you LOL hope you guys like our bighouse
Wheres the injury option in the poll?
Soderling's upset ranks among the top 3 in the history of tennis. That has to be hard to recover from. I dont think Rafa will get over it AT LEAST until he wins the next french.
Yeah its hard too win when you get 2 goals taken away by a referee who had white& red underwear!:evil:
We totally owned the match
I was watching the same match as you were, yes you did with the referees help. But where were you last World Cup? And last European Championship? Where? I cant rememberperhaps you saw a different match?? fact is that we qualified as #1..
Well at least he won it fair and square, without HUGE help from the referee.yesterday was yesterday, what counts is present time did you say the same when Fed won FO?? bet you didnt say, he finally won but it dont matter cause he got beaten in straight sets and bageled last year or did you?
Here are his total matches each year BEFORE playing RG:
2005….48 matches
2006….32
2007….43
2008….44
2009….47
The numbers are very close. If 2009 was an insane schedule so was the previous years( except in 2006). All the years he won RG he never skipped grass season. Plus, losing early at the FO this year gave him more time to rest for queen & SW19.
He was having a Soderling syndrome, not b/c of an insane schedule.
playing Barcelona..playing 3 weeks in a row when you later claim you had been playing through pain for months is just..well..no words for it really :lol:
Here are his total matches each year BEFORE playing RG:
2005….48 matches
2006….32
2007….43
2008….44
2009….47
The numbers are very close. If 2009 was an insane schedule so was the previous years( except in 2006). All the years he won RG he never skipped grass season. Plus, losing early at the FO this year gave him more time to rest for queen & SW19.
He was having a Soderling syndrome, not b/c of an insane schedule.
He was having a "soderling syndrome"?
What is the logic behind this assumption? Nadal got beat by a guy he hates in RG so he decides to skip queens and wimbledon as a result of that? Do you realise how stupid that sounds? So Nadal decided to skip the most important tournament in the world,on a surface which favours him(and he was defending champion) because of fear of losing(presumably he was hiding in a corner the whole time after RG),"invents" a injury to get out of playing these events and decides to come back on his worst surface,in a time of season which doesn't usually favour him and gets soundly beaten about 4 times(way worse than in the Soderling match)but he doesn't quit a tournament until he gets a muscle tear and skips bangkok. Why didn't Nadal quit(invent a injury) after getting beat again and again in the HC season? Well he didn't quit because he felt he was healthy enough to compete,unlike after RG.
And the funniest part about Nadal's withdrawal from wimbledon out of fear was that he had a easy draw,he didn't have any big hitters on his part if I remember correctly.
Not a good indicator. In 2008 he blew everyone off the court quickly. In 2009, he fought through tough long matches where he had to defend a lot. The number of matches doesn't take that into account.