11 slams, a career slam, 5 slams in a row and 6 french opens? I'd say Rafa.
It's not just about the slams though...
Sorry but 1st tier is Laver/Federer.
I'd put Borg in 2nd tier along with Sampras.
I don't think Ralph makes the second tier with the above scenario...
If Rafa won the Grand slam this year (and YES I mean the real grand slam) you still wouldn't have him at tier 1 or even tier 2 because you're obviously a hater and are not objective in your opinions.
If Borg is tier 2 then if Rafa wins 11 majors then he should be considered tier 2 as well.
If Nadal completed the Grand Slam this year, (thereby reaching 13 slams/7 consecutive), I would put him a bit ahead of Federer and Laver.
With the original scenario (reaching 11), although he'd have the same no. of slams as Borg, I'd put Borg slightly ahead due to his domination over the field for more years...
Sorry but 1st tier is Laver/Federer.
I'd put Borg in 2nd tier along with Sampras.
I don't think Ralph makes the second tier with the above scenario...
Although it is extremely unlikely to happen, this place would go into meltdown.
According to who? You? Well your opinion means less to people than Simon Reed or Peter Bodo's...
When was the last time a player on the mens side won 5 in a row? Nadal would be in a category of his own.
If only he would rest, 6 in a row (Wim) wouldn't be out of the question.
6 in a row would put him above all IMO. It's hard to even fathom that it could be done this year. 6 majors in a row would be an unbelievable achievement and I'd put it higher than The Grand Slam because he'd have to win 2 majors of each surface in a row.
IF Nadal won 6 in a row, what to call it? The Nadal Epic?
It's not just about the slams though...
ITA about the many similarities. Borg won his 6th RG title at just 25, so it's not like he has more RG success, it's just that Rafa is still younger. And as I wrote Rafa's winning record on clay is already higher than Borg's.
Borg currently has more Wimbledon titles but having the 2 slam titles on hard court + still more than 1 W make Rafa a more complete/impressive player than Borg.
If Rafa has a weakness, it's indoor. No doubt Borg was much better there but slams are the most important titles and there is no indoor slam.
If Rafa wins 5 slams in a row (and he'll have a great shot at 6), it's not just the slams that'd make him great, it's the fact he has 18 masters shields
I am answering Borg number one's post (nothing to do with you. Starting a thread doesn't mean you own all the posts in it...)Can you even read?
Try reading the first post again and avoid going off on useless tangents in my thread.
youre such a goof, nobody cares about the masters titles except fanboys like you
Of course it's far from a given. No one has ever said otherwise. This is a "if" thread, doesn't mean it will happen."If he wins Australia, the French and Wimbledon is a lock, he only needs to defend his US Open! Great times!"
My God listen to yourself, goofs. You're all gonna look like morons after the Australian Open if Nadal fails to win it and it's far from given (we've got 5-6 guys with equally good chances as Nadal). I guess you wanna squeeze out as much joy as you can before Australia.
The *********s really need a cold shower, fast.
yup. the h2hs are also impt:twisted:
Beware the *******s!If Rafa won 5 slams in a row, he would be the best player of open era, period, with several slams on every surface, Olympic gold, best winning % in masters, best record ever on 1 surface and most consecutive slam titles in open era, all of this at a record young age and at the fastest pace ever seen.
Federer leads the H2H, 2 surfaces to 1. Thanks for playing.
Of course it's far from a given. No one has ever said otherwise. This is a "if" thread, doesn't mean it will happen.
Federer leads the H2H, 2 surfaces to 1. Thanks for playing.
Head to head is all surfaces combined. That's 8-14 and no, that's not a leading head to head, no matter how you look at it. (2-6 in slams)
IF Nadal won 6 in a row, what to call it? The Nadal Epic?
Why are you reading this thread then? No one is forcing you. You should stay away from a subject that aggravates you.You're talking the same "if Nadal wins" crap ever since he won the US Open. I'm sick of it! If he is to win in Australia, let it be. I've had enough of *********s imitating freaking Nostradamus for some months now.
Skewed? Just testifies to Fed's weakness on clay or to Rafa's unprecedented genius on clay and higher domination on 1 surface than Fed can ever dream of. Doesn't that make Rafa the better player? If Rafa can overcome Fed on the surfaces he is supposed to dominate but Fed cannot overcome Rafa on clay, then Rafa is the most dominant player, not Fed.the h2h is skewed and you know it, it's hilarious that in today's era where 70% of the time is played on hard courts they managed to play 12 times on clay compared to only 7 on hard courts and 3 on grass, the fedal h2h is worthless
the h2h is skewed and you know it, it's hilarious that in today's era where 70% of the time is played on hard courts they managed to play 12 times on clay compared to only 7 on hard courts and 3 on grass, the fedal h2h is worthless
a doubly-weak era?? it was a weak era when Fed won 3 in a row...
Rafa leads 3-1 on outdoor HC so really Fed's lucky he hasn't met Rafa on more occasions in masters tourny's because Nadal has the edge on him on outdoor HC.
Rafa leads 3-1 on outdoor HC so really Fed's lucky he hasn't met Rafa on more occasions in masters tourny's because Nadal has the edge on him on outdoor HC.
What is this "outdoor" material? Is it new?
Federer leads the H2H, 2 surfaces to 1. Thanks for playing.
Skewed? Just testifies to Fed's weakness on clay or to Rafa's unprecedented genius on clay and higher domination on 1 surface than Fed can ever dream of. Doesn't that make Rafa the better player? If Rafa can overcome Fed on the surfaces he is supposed to dominate but Fed cannot overcome Rafa on clay, then Rafa is the most dominant player, not Fed.
Actually, if it's skewed, it should be to Fed's advantage: Fed has had 4 opportunities to beat Rafa at RG and still he failed. Rafa succeeded within only 3 attempts at W and 1 attempt at AO. Damning stat for Fed.
Not in slams. Rafa leads that 2 surfaces to 1 (and the grass h2h will probably change). And 6-2 in all slam matches. That's the real h2h.