EastAngels2014
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I have the utmost respect for Fed but how much longer can he play at this level, where the game is changing around him?
How much longer does Fed have?
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I'd say until 2014 he will be a top ten player. After that he might start to dip.
Qubax
Professional
I think it comes down to motivation.
When Fed is really motivated, he will do everything in his power preparation wise to be ready for a match and a tournament. I think once Fed regained #1 you saw a little waning of his motivation.
It's hard to say how motivated Fed will be next year...I could see him trying to really pick his spots interms of peaking next year(even more then normal) and imo with his chances of winning grand slams dwindling I could see Fed going "all in" for another push at Wimbeldon.
To be honest what I could see next year is Fed winning 3 or 4 tournaments rather then 6. Still winning one slam if he moves heaven and earth to win Wimbly and ending up in the hi 50's for match wins. The days of winning 70 plus matches probably ended this season.
Still a stellar potential 2013 for the Fed though. Ending the year in 2nd or 3rd.
When Fed is really motivated, he will do everything in his power preparation wise to be ready for a match and a tournament. I think once Fed regained #1 you saw a little waning of his motivation.
It's hard to say how motivated Fed will be next year...I could see him trying to really pick his spots interms of peaking next year(even more then normal) and imo with his chances of winning grand slams dwindling I could see Fed going "all in" for another push at Wimbeldon.
To be honest what I could see next year is Fed winning 3 or 4 tournaments rather then 6. Still winning one slam if he moves heaven and earth to win Wimbly and ending up in the hi 50's for match wins. The days of winning 70 plus matches probably ended this season.
Still a stellar potential 2013 for the Fed though. Ending the year in 2nd or 3rd.
EastAngels2014
Rookie
I agree, i just dont see him being able to keep up with joker and Nadal and even Murray now who is stepping up his game.
EastAngels2014
Rookie
Also a very good point, he is very committed, i think he wont lose Wimbledon unless for an injury that's his court nobody will take that from him. But i do believe he will pick and choose where he wants to put in 100%
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I think Federer will actually win his last major at the 2014 AO after winning the 2013 Wimbledon, ending his "#1" run like it began.
If he wants to keep chasing Ivan Lendl's 94 titles....being 31, and having 76 titles already, he can get 3-4 titles a year to match Ivan Lendls career titles in 4-5 years at age 36 or 37.... If hevwants to chase jimmy connors, he will have to play well into his 40's....
He just past john mcenroe....so trying to equal or surpass ivan lendl will be difficult.....especially if he doesnt switch to a larger racquet...
He just past john mcenroe....so trying to equal or surpass ivan lendl will be difficult.....especially if he doesnt switch to a larger racquet...
EastAngels2014
Rookie
I think Joker has the AO, it just seems to be his tournament lately
Clarky21
Banned
He can keep up with Nadal who hasn't even played in nearly 6 months. Nadal is further past his prime than Fed is,and is no threat to Fed right now. It's the other two he needs to worry about,but as long as he still has the passion and desire to play then let him. I think it's going to take Fed actually retiring for a lot of people to realize just how much he's going to be missed. That's why it annoys me when people say he should retire after every match he loses. One day he will actually quit,and they'll regret it.
EastAngels2014
Rookie
i dont think he should just stop after his first loss at all, he has two good years left in him, but i think the game is getting to fast for him because of his age. I think Nadal will retire earlier than expect because of this knee injure.
Despite winning Wimbledon, I just don't see how Federer can win another major. I never expected him to win Wimbledon, and tbh some things really fell into place and Murray underperformed in the final, Djokovic was unimpressive in the semifinals, etc...but it's tennis and the unpredictable happens, so Fed always has that going for him. But in terms of projecting major results, how is he going to beat Djokovic or Nadal or Murray at any of the hardcourt majors, or Djokovic or Nadal at the French Open? I don't see it ever happening, which leaves Wimbledon, and I don't feel comfortable making a call on that one in the spring.
I can see Federer up two sets and three match points at the OZ Open against Djokovic in the final, and then failing to convert on any of them and getting crushed from there on out. That sounds like vintage Fed...
I can see Federer up two sets and three match points at the OZ Open against Djokovic in the final, and then failing to convert on any of them and getting crushed from there on out. That sounds like vintage Fed...
OddJack
G.O.A.T.
EastAngels2014
Rookie
he will be back next season
EastAngels2014
Rookie
I dont see him winning the hard courts either or the clay that y i think he will win on grass because he knows that his only chance
Tennis_Hands
Banned
Everything depends on whether he is healthy or not. Other than that, he will still be beating most of the pack and reaching the QF and SF of the most important tournaments. He has too much variety for most of his rivals to cope with. They only have the option to overpower him, but if he is healthy only a couple can do that (as of now).
Yeah? So, how about admitting, that Federer played on a very high level, and made that happen.
Murray played as well as he could, and couldn't weather the storm. That is all about his "underperformance". And why was Djokovic "unimpressive"´?
Oh, really?
:roll:
Federer is a very good HC player.
How is he going to beat Djokovic and Murray? Murray is definitely beatable. As is Djokovic, if Federer has a good day.
I can see 666 cloths being used to mop the floor, should Federer win another major title, beating Murray and Djokovic in the process.
Yeah? So, how about admitting, that Federer played on a very high level, and made that happen.
Murray played as well as he could, and couldn't weather the storm. That is all about his "underperformance". And why was Djokovic "unimpressive"´?
Oh, really?
:roll:
Federer is a very good HC player.
How is he going to beat Djokovic and Murray? Murray is definitely beatable. As is Djokovic, if Federer has a good day.
I can see 666 cloths being used to mop the floor, should Federer win another major title, beating Murray and Djokovic in the process.
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OddJack
G.O.A.T.
Yeah, he will be back...and he will be good enuf to take over top 3 by some miracle after being away for 7 months.
EastAngels2014
Rookie
not top three but i do believe top 10 and he will work his way back inside the top 3. I have had a knee injure like that, it keep me out for a long period of time and i just put in the work to get back to where i was before and i feel like as a pro he will do the same.
Clarky21
Banned
Prisoner of Birth
Banned
He's still a Slam-contender for two more years, even though it's really tough.
He just beat Murray, and a few months ago bageled Djoker in route to a win, I'd say he can still keep up with them. And who is the other guy, is he even on tour?
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Not everything. He could still win Rome and Monte-Carlo. And Olympics of course.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
It's HIS court?? Nadal, Tsonga, Berdych and Murray all beat him on the Wimbledon court.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Fed would be lucky to push Djoko to a 4th set at AO. He lost to him in straights in 2008 and in 2011.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
In a best of 3, sure. In a best of 5, anywhere else than grass, that's very questionable.
Prisoner of Birth
Banned
Federer didn't have to beat Nadal to win the FO. He may not have to beat Djokovic either if he's gonna have to win a Hardcourt Slam. Not saying he will, but it's definitely possible. And it's not like Federer didn't have matchpoints against Djokovic at US Open 2011 & 2010.
kalyan4fedever
Legend
He is done actually i can start to see fed getting out of top 10 and fading thereafter and retired after 2013 us open. I would be surprised if he wins any masters 1000 or 500 for that matter in '13 (highly unlikely) and upcoming AO dont even start with that he will be rosoled.
Prisoner of Birth
Banned
Okay, you're a troll.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
But Fed is getting older and I definitely think he will have to beat Djoko, Murray, Berd, Nadal in slams next year. He was very lucky in 2009 at RG. He's not gonna have that luck often especially now that Djoko and maybe Murray have become more consistent.
Tafmatch
Rookie
Which non-top 10 player is going to beat Fed next year? To drop out of the top 10 you have to start losing against guys like Simon, Dolgopolov, Monaco etc. Highly unlikely.
I think Fed will play 2 more years.
Prisoner of Birth
Banned
Berdych is a real threat to Federer, yes, but let's not put him in the same category of peril as Djokovic, Nadal and Murray yet. And he may rarely be on collision course with Federer anyway. Even if he is, he may lose before he reaches the QF.
And Federer wasn't "lucky" in 2009. It was bound to happen sooner or later and Federer didn't miss. He earned that title through sheer consistency and, honestly, even you know it'd have been criminal to have a Claycourter as good as Federer never win the French Open. Just accept it.
And finally, Djokovic is a great player, definitely one of the modern greats and could end up being considered one of the GOATs by the time he's done, but he's no longer 23. Players generally start to decline once they hit 26. There's no saying if Djokovic can keep playing as well as he has the past 2 years. He's been incredibly consistent, yes, but it might be too much to expect him to make every hardcourt Slam F/SF for the next 2 years (which is probably how long Federer will be a Slam-contender). If Djokovic slips once, Federer could take it. Murray is still not a staple in Grand Slam finals and Hards always troubled Nadal.
I think he can keep up for another year. But playing many tournaments got him into this form, whereas playing many tournaments in the end also got him back out of form a little bit. A lot also depends on how many fast surfaces there are around. Without the roof, basically all four Slams were a bit too slow for him. Roger needs a bit of pace to work with to be able to beat the top guys.
Anyway, I think next year will be fine. Maybe even win a Slam. After that it'll get tougher and tougher. I think with his serve and forehand on a good day, as well as improved volleying skills, he'll still be a threat, but not as much as he is now. I see an Agassi like career if he wants to play like that. Some early exits, but also 1 or two Slam semis/finals or even a win very late in his career. The guy is so extremely talented. He'll become streakier and streakier, but when he gets redhot there will always be few players that can keep up.
I'll be optimistic: He'll win a Slam in 2013, make 1 slam final in 2014. And then in 2015 and 16 he'll win a final Slam to finish at 19, as well as another olympic appearance (and hopefully a medal in 1 of three disciplines) in Rio
Anyway, I think next year will be fine. Maybe even win a Slam. After that it'll get tougher and tougher. I think with his serve and forehand on a good day, as well as improved volleying skills, he'll still be a threat, but not as much as he is now. I see an Agassi like career if he wants to play like that. Some early exits, but also 1 or two Slam semis/finals or even a win very late in his career. The guy is so extremely talented. He'll become streakier and streakier, but when he gets redhot there will always be few players that can keep up.
I'll be optimistic: He'll win a Slam in 2013, make 1 slam final in 2014. And then in 2015 and 16 he'll win a final Slam to finish at 19, as well as another olympic appearance (and hopefully a medal in 1 of three disciplines) in Rio
kalyan4fedever
Legend
Yeah but in 2014 it will be more tough for him and the competition is getting better and better and the courts getting slower and slower , we did see his frustration when he lost to Nole in WTF this year inspite of him being attacking for most part. So i think that frustration will get the worst of him going further. 2012 was a good year for him he won a slam and 3 or 4 masters 1000, but dont expect him to repeat the same in '13 , it would be pretty darn tough.
Prisoner of Birth
Banned
Prisoner of Birth
Banned
Federer can easily make Quarterfinals of every tournament he enters (except for the odd one here and there) so that alone will ensure a spot in the top 8. You're trolling.
I think you're being too optimistic. I like that
I am optimistic. esp. in the slam predicition. I think he'll become streakier and his fans will have to swallow some bad tournaments in the coming years. But he won't lose his flashes of brilliance, plus a very reliable service game.
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Feather
Legend
IMPOSSIBLE
Roger Federer is NOT gonna slip out of top ten in either 2013 or 2014. I am dead sure about that. Even if he plays only majors he will easily get around 2500 points and that would bring him to top ten or close to top ten. I don't see him skipping all the masters 1000 and WTF entire year
Feather
Legend
I do admit that he was lucky in RG 2009 that Rafa lost early. Still he won the remaining matches.
Berdych is not gonna beat Roger on a constant basis. I don't think Berdych is gonna blast Roger off the court in either RG or AO. I don't intend to say Roger will never lose to Berdych there but chances are less. He is a threat in Wimbledon and US Open but he is nowehere a threat as the other top three
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Feather
Legend
Highly optimistic! I don't think Roger would be playing from 2015 onwards and even if he plays I doubt he will win any slam from 2015 onwards. I would be only happy to be proved wrong
Prisoner of Birth
Banned
Yeah, true. I wonder when his first pre-quarters loss at a Slam (in 10 years?) will be. Can't be too far away, surely. Maybe an year.
DragonBlaze
Hall of Fame
I know this is a longshot but I really hope he is still playing in 2014. I may just have an opportunity to go to Wimbledon that year, and to be able to see Fed there would really be something else.
So really hoping he still plays till then!
So really hoping he still plays till then!
A lot in that sense depends on the draw as well. I mean, last couple of years he could have lost to Simon at the AO11, Benneteau at Wimbledon12 (surely!), and even if Goffin goes 2-0 up at RG, who knows.
I think he can lose to anyone, but if I had to bet without knowing the draw, I'd still pick Fed to make all 4 QF. But sure, on a bad day there are guys ranked 12-16 and below he can lose to. Gasquet on clay, Haas on clay or grass, Karlovic or Isner on any surface in which they take away his racquet and sneak a couple of tiebreaks.
Also, if he PLAYS all the Slams next year, he'll equal Wayne Fereira's 56 straight Slam appearances.
Prisoner of Birth
Banned
I think he'll definitely play every Slam till Wimbledon 2014. I wouldn't be too surprised if he retires anytime after that, but I would be if he retires any sooner.
DragonBlaze
Hall of Fame
Imagine being at the match Fed retires at :shock:. That would be crazy epic and sad at the same time.
If it's a final he wins, it would be epic
I can hardly watch a match Fed loses, let alone his last.
Feather
Legend
If it's a final he wins, it would be epic
I can hardly watch a match Fed loses, let alone his last.
That would be the hardest match to watch ever for me, Roger's last. Seriously, I can't even imagine it after watching all these years
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
The guy just finished the year as no.2 after a spell at no.1 again.
He had a massive season and won Wimbledon.
Decline.. Nope. He is steady as a rock.
I think he can do well for quite some time if he wants to, its more up to him than the rest of us.
Such is the quality of the GOAT.
He had a massive season and won Wimbledon.
Decline.. Nope. He is steady as a rock.
I think he can do well for quite some time if he wants to, its more up to him than the rest of us.
Such is the quality of the GOAT.
IF Federer wanted to put in the long conditioning and training hours I think he could stay in the top 10 and have a 20-25% chance of winning any major he entered for the next 8-12 majors.
The problem is this... what motivation would he have to do that?
He's rich, has a family, and has most of the attainable records already. There's a few piddly things here and there.... but I can't even imagine where he'd draw the inspiration and motivation from.
What I'd like to see from Federer:
play less tournaments, pick and choose your spots to "put your body on the line"
I'd be perfectly fine if he won ZERO masters next year... and I'd be perfectly fine with him tanking the French Open if Nadal enters the tournament in relatively good form.
I'd like to see him go to the wall for the AO, WM, and USO and then start majorly cutting down on the fall swing, maybe only "seriously" playing EITHER Indian Wells or Miami but not both.. Playing the minimum # of clay tournies, and only Cincy... forget Toronto.
The problem is this... what motivation would he have to do that?
He's rich, has a family, and has most of the attainable records already. There's a few piddly things here and there.... but I can't even imagine where he'd draw the inspiration and motivation from.
What I'd like to see from Federer:
play less tournaments, pick and choose your spots to "put your body on the line"
I'd be perfectly fine if he won ZERO masters next year... and I'd be perfectly fine with him tanking the French Open if Nadal enters the tournament in relatively good form.
I'd like to see him go to the wall for the AO, WM, and USO and then start majorly cutting down on the fall swing, maybe only "seriously" playing EITHER Indian Wells or Miami but not both.. Playing the minimum # of clay tournies, and only Cincy... forget Toronto.
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