Djokovic tested for doping after AO final

mariecon

Hall of Fame
yeah well that's b.s. They always test the winner of Majors. Not news. Doesn't mean he's not doping. Do you know anything about PEDs and blood doping?
 

Tony48

Legend
yeah well that's b.s. They always test the winner of Majors. Not news. Doesn't mean he's not doping. Do you know anything about PEDs and blood doping?

Going by your logic, a positive test doesn't mean that he's doping, either. Could be a false positive, an incorrect test or any number of things.

It's fun believing whatever you want!
 

mariecon

Hall of Fame
Going by your logic, a positive test doesn't mean that he's doping, either. Could be a false positive, an incorrect test or any number of things.

It's fun believing whatever you want!

No but I know enough to know blood doping isn't detectable and players know to stop taking other PED's at least 24 hours before a test so that it's out of their system. How many tests did Lance pass? I suppose you're going to tell me he wasn't doping either?:shock:
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
People are typically clear by the time competition comes up, I thought they were supposed to be testing in off-season too. But then i recently read that Lance (I mean the real one) had got "micro-doping" down to an art -- take in EPO at about 11pm and it's out of your system by 6 am.
 

Tony48

Legend
No but I know enough to know blood doping isn't detectable and players know to stop taking other PED's at least 24 hours before a test so that it's out of their system. How many tests did Lance pass? I suppose you're going to tell me he wasn't doping either?:shock:

All you did just now was explain why you can throw around doping accusations about players you don't like. Seriously, who do you think you're fooling?

I wish there were something to test your motive for accusing certain players of doping. Now THAT would have some interesting results :)
 

mariecon

Hall of Fame
All you did just now was explain why you can throw around doping accusations about players you don't like. Seriously, who do you think you're fooling?

I wish there were something to test your motive for accusing certain players of doping. Now THAT would have some interesting results :)

One word: Lance.

He tested negative for years but we all know what he was doing.

And I guess you have reading comprehension issues. I said "Doesn't mean he's not doping." Which is true. It's the same of all the players not just him. But don't tell me because he was tested that automatically means he's clean.
 

Rocky89

Professional
People are typically clear by the time competition comes up, I thought they were supposed to be testing in off-season too. But then i recently read that Lance (I mean the real one) had got "micro-doping" down to an art -- take in EPO at about 11pm and it's out of your system by 6 am.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Every time I see someone mention Lance now I automatically assume they are talking about Djokovic. This place has warped my mind.
 

joeri888

G.O.A.T.
Going by your logic, a positive test doesn't mean that he's doping, either. Could be a false positive, an incorrect test or any number of things.

It's fun believing whatever you want!

While I think you should be careful, even after a positive tests, those tests are (rightly) designed with much more chance of a false negative than a false positive.
 

Goosehead

Legend
So everyone calling him a doper can now stop false accusations.

yes because lance armstrong pass loads of drug tests which means he was always clean right..??......:-?

....oh wait :confused::confused:

(btw i prefer to believe that no players are taking peds..just pointing out passing a test dos'nt mean they are clean any more) :(
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
No but I know enough to know blood doping isn't detectable and players know to stop taking other PED's at least 24 hours before a test so that it's out of their system. How many tests did Lance pass? I suppose you're going to tell me he wasn't doping either?:shock:

Then, there is accusation that ALL of them (bikers) are doping anyway.
Therefore, if Rafa or Novak are found to be doping, it is most likely that the rest of the Tour is on the same junk... Just like in Martha Steward case, and in Lance case, those marked as an example will suffer the most. Others did it, too...
 

Djokodal Fan

Hall of Fame
Someone won 17 majors and was tested everytime. He never got caught.

he was the one who set example of using Ped in tennis without getting caught! They should go after him first
 

Clarky21

Banned
Big deal. What about the 7 months(now eight) that he has gone without a blood test of any kind? When was the last time he was tested OOC?
 

SLD76

G.O.A.T.
Big deal. What about the 7 months(now eight) that he has gone without a blood test of any kind? When was the last time he was tested OOC?

Ahh clarky, so adamant about djoker but not nearly as vehement about murray and rafa, or ferrer or berdych or ....
 
Someone won 17 majors and was tested everytime. He never got caught.

he was the one who set example of using Ped in tennis without getting caught! They should go after him first

are u high ? he doped in wimby'12 right ? taming peak djoker and almost peaking murray back to back lol, no sensible guy will put his 16 slams at jeopardy by doping to win his 17th , djoker on the other hand has nothing to lose at start of '11 he definitely doped its just like a vertical spike in his graph
 

Cup8489

G.O.A.T.
Someone won 17 majors and was tested everytime. He never got caught.

he was the one who set example of using Ped in tennis without getting caught! They should go after him first

Federer didn't win his majors by grinding it out. the only time he ever did that ws 2009 FO, and maybe 2008 USO. But both tournaments he only really had 1 tough match physically.

Not comparable to Novak. Stop being butthurt.
 

Djokodal Fan

Hall of Fame
are u high ? he doped in wimby'12 right ? taming peak djoker and almost peaking murray back to back lol, no sensible guy will put his 16 slams at jeopardy by doping to win his 17th , djoker on the other hand has nothing to lose at start of '11 he definitely doped its just like a vertical spike in his graph


why would djoker do the same? why would he jeopardize his career by doping?

Djoker's career would nose dive as well if he doped.

I was just throwing back some accusation on Fed and some are so worked up....I wonder why!
 

Tony48

Legend
One word: Lance.

He tested negative for years but we all know what he was doing.

And I guess you have reading comprehension issues. I said "Doesn't mean he's not doping." Which is true. It's the same of all the players not just him. But don't tell me because he was tested that automatically means he's clean.

You know what else went on for years? Dozens of doctors and other people involved TESTIFYING to the fact that Lance was doping. It wasn't just a bunch of butthurt fans crying about the fact that he was beating everyone.
 

Djokodal Fan

Hall of Fame
Federer didn't win his majors by grinding it out. the only time he ever did that ws 2009 FO, and maybe 2008 USO. But both tournaments he only really had 1 tough match physically.

Not comparable to Novak. Stop being butthurt.


doesn't matter..... when some one starts winning 10 majors in 3 years, I would be more than suspicious. he should be the one who WADA should be careful about.

They should still have his blood samples and should pursue more rigorous testing. He was the one who pioneered doping in tennis without getting caught.

Fed fans like clarky & her double account marie are the ones who are butthurt of Novak winning 4th AO. You are no exception either. Where were you when your co-Fed fans throw doping tantrums on others? Simply reading and enjoying the posts? Deal with it!

One more plain slandering thread on Novak and Mods want to stay mum. well its not surprising!
 

Clarky21

Banned
exactly my thoughts. All useless posts with plain accusation and no insight and as always totally not related to topic!

Your thoughts are wrong then; I don't have a double account. You and F1bob are two of the biggest ********* trolls on this forum. He made my ignore list long ago and you aren't far behind him. Neither one of you can handle any criticism at all about your fav and it's pathetic.

And what I posted was on topic, troll. It's you who never posts anything of substance. It's like it's your job to police this forum from people who don't like your fav, and it's all you ever post about. You'll never change my mind about Lance so you're wasting your time.
 
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Do you know how many different masking drugs and PEDs there are that are undetectable by doping testers?

The dopers are usally one step ahead. If Nole was caught he could put the blame onto a coach or trainer anyhow but he would still be banned for a short period (see Greg Rusedski). The drugs level in the blood and urine goes down if you drink alot of water in a match obviously and players get through alot of water.
 

TheF1Bob

Banned
now on that we can both agree.

a djoker fan suspicious of fed lmao.

yeah, cuz fed is a counter punching grinder who loves playing 20 shot rallies and is allergic to coming to net, lmao

LOL you traitor. :twisted:

Fed never gets injured. Definitely taking some sort of medication.
 
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Djokodal Fan

Hall of Fame
Needs to push more. Gives up when the chips are down. Take the semi at AO as an example.

Only then he will be remembered as a true great. 8)

When was the last time he ever fought back and won against a top player in a major? USopen 2010 & 2011 are great examples of his fighting spirit.

A choker as always he is!
 

Djokodal Fan

Hall of Fame
more like federer doesnt need to push himself to the limit each time to win matches

he did push himself to back to back 5 setters this AO 2013. Doesn't matter he won or lost, still played two 5 setters against young guns.

That clearly tells me ******* is doping!
 

Djokodal Fan

Hall of Fame
You are so clueless all I can do is laugh. Bye, troll. I've had enough of your idiocy to last me a lifetime.


You the one who trolls every thread with baseless accusations about trolling. Just agree to the fatc that Fed is the one who started all this Ped in Tennis and move.

The number of posters that mention your your name 'Clarky21' shows how much useless bashing you do.

You are already on my ignore list troll. But I still end up reading your useless comments when someone else quotes you!
 

SLD76

G.O.A.T.
You the one who trolls every thread with baseless accusations about trolling. Just agree to the fatc that Fed is the one who started all this Ped in Tennis and move.

The number of posters that mention your your name 'Clarky21' shows how much useless bashing you do.

You are already on my ignore list troll. But I still end up reading your useless comments when someone else quotes you!

you show promise, but you have to put in work to get your trolling to the level of NSK/Bulzilla
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
more like federer doesnt need to push himself to the limit each time to win matches

And you claim this because his playing looks so "effortless", just like Lance's cycling looked compared to those that passed out before reaching the finish.

People on this board are super biased...

If ONE of the top guys is doping (any kind), I am a 100% sure the rest of the top 20 is doing the same...
 
LOL. They are always tested after their last matches at a major. Wasn't this board awash with conspiracy theories of how the big players use the 1st week of Slams to flush the dope out of their systems, which is why an early loss is bad for the dopers, and Nadal is serving a silent ban therefore blah blah blah? Fact is, these guys are only ever tested at the Slams so they are smarter than to stay juiced thru the finals :roll:
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
he did push himself to back to back 5 setters this AO 2013. Doesn't matter he won or lost, still played two 5 setters against young guns.

That clearly tells me ******* is doping!

The first 5-setter against Tsonga wasn't as physical as Djokovic's matches, both Tsonga and Fed played aggressively. Against Murray Federer was gassed in the 5th set. I guess he forgot his PED's then, huh?
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
And you claim this because his playing looks so "effortless", just like Lance's cycling looked compared to those that passed out before reaching the finish.

People on this board are super biased...

If ONE of the top guys is doping (any kind), I am a 100% sure the rest of the top 20 is doing the same...

Really. Why was Federer gassed against Murray at the Olympics after playing a tough match against Del Potro? Why was he gassed against Murray in the 5th set of their AO encounter? Geee, if he was on peds the physicality of the game wouldn't affect him that much, would it?

Now back to Djokovic. He plays 5 hours against Wawrinka, looks fresh at the end of the match. Goes on to destroy Berdych in the next round. The year before. Plays 5 hours against Murray in a total grindfest. Beats Nadal in 6 hours not more than 2 days later in a second consecutive grindfest.

Geee I wish I'd know who looked more suspicious - Federer or Djokovic?:roll:

I agree with you on 1 part, though. If one of the top guys is doping, you can say that a lot of the lower ranked guys are dopers too.
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Really. Why was Federer gassed against Murray at the Olympics after playing a tough match against Del Potro? Why was he gassed against Murray in the 5th set of their AO encounter? Geee, if he was on peds the physicality of the game wouldn't affect him that much, would it?

Now back to Djokovic. He plays 5 hours against Wawrinka, looks fresh at the end of the match. Goes on to destroy Berdych in the next round. The year before. Plays 5 hours against Murray in a total grindfest. Beats Nadal in 6 hours not more than 2 days later in a second consecutive grindfest.

Geee I wish I'd know who looked more suspicious - Federer or Djokovic?:roll:

I agree with you on 1 part, though. If one of the top guys is doping, you can say that a lot of the lower ranked guys are dopers too.

Let's conveniently forget that Federer is almost six years older than Djokovic.
 

mariecon

Hall of Fame
doesn't matter..... when some one starts winning 10 majors in 3 years, I would be more than suspicious. he should be the one who WADA should be careful about.

They should still have his blood samples and should pursue more rigorous testing. He was the one who pioneered doping in tennis without getting caught.

Fed fans like clarky & her double account marie are the ones who are butthurt of Novak winning 4th AO. You are no exception either. Where were you when your co-Fed fans throw doping tantrums on others? Simply reading and enjoying the posts? Deal with it!

One more plain slandering thread on Novak and Mods want to stay mum. well its not surprising!

I DO NOT HAVE A DOUBLE ACCOUNT. SO F-OFF!!!
 

mariecon

Hall of Fame
And you claim this because his playing looks so "effortless", just like Lance's cycling looked compared to those that passed out before reaching the finish.

People on this board are super biased...

If ONE of the top guys is doping (any kind), I am a 100% sure the rest of the top 20 is doing the same...

100%? Are you certain about that? Even Gilles Simon and Kohlschreiber and Querrey? Really?
 

mariecon

Hall of Fame
LOL. They are always tested after their last matches at a major. Wasn't this board awash with conspiracy theories of how the big players use the 1st week of Slams to flush the dope out of their systems, which is why an early loss is bad for the dopers, and Nadal is serving a silent ban therefore blah blah blah? Fact is, these guys are only ever tested at the Slams so they are smarter than to stay juiced thru the finals :roll:

...exactly....
 
Doesn't anyone get it.

Federer's game is far less taxing than Djockovics.

Fed can play 3 five set matches in 5 days and still be okay.

Lance - not so much.

Fed is the most talented to have ever played the game. Even Nadal has stated that. he does not need to put in as much effort as lesser mortals such as Lance and Nadal or the Scottish Salmon
 

Djokodal Fan

Hall of Fame
Doesn't anyone get it.

Federer's game is far less taxing than Djockovics.

Fed can play 3 five set matches in 5 days and still be okay.

Lance - not so much.

Fed is the most talented to have ever played the game. Even Nadal has stated that. he does not need to put in as much effort as lesser mortals such as Lance and Nadal or the Scottish Salmon

Apparently he lost the second 5 setter in AO..... :lol:
 

Djokodal Fan

Hall of Fame
The first 5-setter against Tsonga wasn't as physical as Djokovic's matches, both Tsonga and Fed played aggressively. Against Murray Federer was gassed in the 5th set. I guess he forgot his PED's then, huh?

Djoker player semis against Ferrer @ USopen on Sunday. Played 5 setter against Murray on Monday afternoon. Didn't have anymore gas in 5th set and lost the game

Forgot his PED's then huh?

Care to respond?
 

Djokodal Fan

Hall of Fame
Let's conveniently forget that Federer is almost six years older than Djokovic.

and let's conveniently forget the fact that he can still play 2 back to back 5 setters against players 6 years younger than him.

May be his PEDs are not good enough to last 2 back to back 5 setters
 

Djokodal Fan

Hall of Fame
And was DRAGGING in the 5th...
He is not immortal, in fact, if anyone's doping, it would be him at this point playing against the 25-year-olds...

No, he is the angel who descended the earth who cannot do anything wrong. Federer and his fans are sore losers to say the least.

They cannot digest Murray beating him. Until 2009 Nadal was on Peds, starting 2011 Djoker was on Peds and starting 2013 Murray is on Peds.

Do you see a pattern? Whenever ******* starts losing, then the opponent starts doping.

The old grandpa should retire and ask his fans to "SHUT UP" aka french open style!
 
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