being transplant to the dc area, i really like the name "washington foreskins" as that's how useless the team plays.
+1 on that name change suggestion lol!
being transplant to the dc area, i really like the name "washington foreskins" as that's how useless the team plays.
Have any Irish whiteys been outside Notre Dame stadium portesting the use of the name "the Fighting Irish?" I dont think so
^PS I think a better question would be, if Irish whitey's did picket in south bend, would anyone even care or listen to them or would they just say, you're white, you don't get to feel discriminated against.
Can you imagine the outrage today if a team used the name Amigos like the ABA basketball team in Anaheim did? One of the Anaheim Amigos cartoon type logos was actually of an illegal alien in a sombrero.
Um....how could you tell he was an illegal alien from the logo?
Um....how could you tell he was an illegal alien from the logo?
Political-correctness is vastly overrated. Groups who are offended by certain words (with the exception of a certain word that you don't call a black person that starts with N) need to chill out and stop taking offense to every little thing. Consider it a tribute if an organization names itself after you.
Should they change the name? Ask ten fans get ten answers.
Should the name be illegal? Obviously not.
Basically when the white owner (the race of the players is immaterial) decides it is worth it to change the name, it will get changed and not a millisecond before. The reason could be publicity, good will, or even monetary. He is free to keep the name (or change it) and anyone is free to make as big of a deal about it as they want to. Both have that freedom. They are both equally open to criticism.
There will be resistance from the other owners to a name change based on possible revenue loss (shared revenue). I have grown up a Redskin fan and thought last year was the perfect time to change the name with the start of the RGIII era. While I agree people get offended way to easily these days, why put them in that position in the first place? People are way to rude these days. Redskins is a racist term. It should be changed. Redtails would be cool, but I like Warriors better.
Given all that, I was at a conference a couple years ago and I met a DBA from an Indian reservation casino. We were at a bar watching football so I brought up the Redskins and asked what she thought of the name. She didn't find it offensive and said lots of folks on her reservation cheer for them with the Cowboys being the other popular team. It does however offend someone out there. I support the name change on principal.
A little test--
You find out that your co-worker Susan is 1/2 Native American:
Which of these things would you consider saying to her:
A: "Hey Susan, I didn't realize that you were part Native American."
B: "Hey Susan, I didn't realize that you were part redskin."
I would consider saying A. I would definitely not say B. I'm guessing that nobody here would say B, because we know that calling someone a "redskin" is pretty likely to offend them.
So if most people wouldn't use this term to refer to acquaintances, because it's usually considered offensive, maybe it's not the greatest name for a sports team.
Seems like common sense...
So youre gonna stop watching football on principle huh?
So you support the name change on principal? But you support the name Warriors? You do know that even teams who had the name Warriors have also changed their name because even that name offended somebody? Marquette used to be known as the Warriors before someone said even that bothered them.
So youre gonna stop watching football on principle huh?
Did you take any logic classes during your scholastic career?
Yea, but was before the PC police went crazy and wanted to control our thoughts and words we used
but one is criticised for supporting a racist name, the other is criticised for being decent human beings.not quite the same thing.
Yea, but was before the PC police went crazy and wanted to control our thoughts and words we used
How about the "Washington Principals." On principle.
It seems to me that a name change would be good for business. Fans who already own gear would buy new gear. Player jerseys could be auctioned off.
And people like me who would never in a million years buy something with a racial slur on it could begin to buy team stuff.
An American Indian tribe in upstate New York said Thursday it will launch a radio ad campaign pressing for the Washington Redskins to shed a name often criticized as offensive.
The Oneida Indian Nation said the first ad will run on radio stations in Washington before the team hosts the Philadelphia Eagles in its season opener Monday night. In the ad, Oneida Nation Representative Ray Halbritter says NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell should ''stand up to bigotry'' by denouncing ''the racial slur'' in the team's name.
''We do not deserve to be called redskins,'' the Oneida leader says in the ad. ''We deserve to be treated as what we are - Americans.''
The radio ad said Goodell had rightly been critical this summer after an Eagles wide receiver was caught on video making a racial slur against African-Americans.
The ads launch as the Washington Redskins this year face a fresh barrage of criticism over their nickname, with local leaders and pundits calling for a name change. In May, 10 members of Congress sent letters to Redskins owner Dan Snyder and Goodell urging the team to change the name.
Snyder has vowed to never change the name.
League spokesman Brian McCarthy, in an email to The Associated Press, said they ''respect that reasonable people may have differing views.''
''The name from its origin has always intended to be positive and has always been used by the team in a highly respectful manner,'' McCarthy wrote.
There was no immediate response from the Redskins.
The Oneidas have been vocal opponents of the Redskins nickname - be it for NFL or high school teams. The tribe, which runs a casino and resort in central New York, this year gave $10,000 toward new jerseys to an area high school that changed its nickname from the Redskins to the Hawkeyes.
The Oneida said the first ad will run Sunday and Monday on several stations in Washington. Subsequent ads will run in Washington during home games and in the cities hosting the team when it is away. A spokesman for the Oneidas would not say how much the campaign would cost beyond ''multiple thousands.''
Halbritter said that fans also are being urged to lobby the NFL in support of the name change at www.changethemascot.org , a website that debuted Thursday.
''We believe that with the help of our fellow professional football fans, we can get the NFL to realize the error of its ways and make a very simple change,'' Halbritter said in a prepared statement.