We want HEAD PT630 CAP

-Bobo-

Semi-Pro
I think its only you. I think the HEAD as you call it 98 Pro Stock mold is still very popular.

I don't know how many of the head guys are using flexible 98 pro stocks but it does seem like more and more guys in general are going the way of babolat. Random guys who are making it deeper into tourneys are using babs from the looks of it.
 
I think its only you. I think the HEAD as you call it 98 Pro Stock mold is still very popular.

Big hitters pros like verdaso and tsonga moved to more powerful frames, the game has changed to more power, frames like the head 98 18x20 pro stocks are not powerful frames.

Anyway name the top players (females as well) who still play this frame, it is not as popular as it once was.

There is hass and Simon , I think both will benefit from more power.
 
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Power Player

Bionic Poster
Big hitters pros like verdaso and tsonga moved to more powerful frames, the game has changed to more power, frames like the head 98 18x20 pro stocks are not powerful frames.

Anyway name the top players (females as well) who still play this frame, it is not as popular as it once was.

There is hass and Simon , I think both will benefit from more power.

Berdych and Murray instantly spring to mind. They just play the open pattern version.

Verdasco switched for the $$.Tsonga will switch to a pure storm most likely next year based on his playtesting.

The obvious is world #1. Soft 18x20. He is dominating the tour with it.
 
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I'm only doing the Men. Player's in the top 100 that play with a Prestige 98 mold:
Gilles Simon
Tommy Haas
Andy Murray
Kevin Anderson
Florian Mayer
Martin Klizan
Guillermo Garcia-Lopez
Paolo Lorenzi
Carlos Berlocq
Rajeev Ram
Filippo Volandri
and Sergiy Stakhovsky who served and volleyed Federer off the court.

What I think has eaten into the popularity of the frame is the various Radical 98 that players are using and the Wilson Clone of the Prestige 98 that players are using.

Various Radical 98: The Molds are a little different but the head size and beam width are the same:
Novak Djokovic
Tomas Berdych
Marin Cilic
Jeremy Chardy
Victor Hanescu (Just switched to Djokovic's stick)
Radek Stepanek
Ivan Dodig
Marinko Matosevic
Simone Bolelli
Thiemo de Bakker

Do I have to go through all the players that are using the Copies of the Prestige 98 by Wilson?

We can not count the clones since they are not the same, most are more powerful as with the radical 98 molds they are more powerful and stiffer than what we are talking about , Murray mold is an open pattern so no go there reason more power, sergi win had more to do with his powerful string than his mold and federer 90 inch frame and 33 age IMO , which leave haas who can benefit from a more powerful frame given his age, as well as the buck 20 Simon who IMO can benefit from a more powerful frame ala ferrer, time will tell, but surely the popularity has decreased, mainly due to more power which was my point .

I can not think of a top 100 WTA , reason they want more power, Sloan Mchale went radical for more power
 
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I don't think Sergi's string beat Federer. I don't find the new Radical 98 any more Powerful and they are softer than the Prestige 98. Murray's frame is the exact same layup just with a 16x19 string pattern. Simon's game is not built around power....... Popularity has decreased because HEAD does not want the players using the Pro Tour 630/PT57A. They want players instead using TGT293.2. That's why many have Moved to the softer playing Radical 98s TGT260.3, .2, .4, TGT231.1, and .3.

So Head wanted players to play with a stiffer more powerful frame ( because they know where the game is heading no pun intended ) but many pros moved to softer playing radicals? I may be old school but in general I equated radicals as stiffer more powerful frames:confused:
 

Wilander

Rookie
I'm only doing the Men. Player's in the top 100 that play with a Prestige 98 mold:
Gilles Simon
Tommy Haas
Andy Murray
Kevin Anderson
Florian Mayer
Martin Klizan
Guillermo Garcia-Lopez
Paolo Lorenzi
Carlos Berlocq
Rajeev Ram
Filippo Volandri
and Sergiy Stakhovsky who served and volleyed Federer off the court.

What I think has eaten into the popularity of the frame is the various Radical 98 that players are using and the Wilson Clone of the Prestige 98 that players are using.

Various Radical 98: The Molds are a little different but the head size and beam width are the same:
Novak Djokovic
Tomas Berdych
Marin Cilic
Jeremy Chardy
Victor Hanescu (Just switched to Djokovic's stick)
Radek Stepanek
Ivan Dodig
Marinko Matosevic
Simone Bolelli
Thiemo de Bakker

Do I have to go through all the players that are using the Copies of the Prestige 98 by Wilson?

+ Baghdatis
+ Haase
+ Kamke
+ 10 of the top 100, who already used those racquets during their careers.
 
No, because its more expensive making the Pro Tour 630 than the TGT293.2 and .1. The RA value on the Radical is about 62 (same as the IG Prestige MP) but feels softer because of the TwinTube.
I also don't find any power increase with the IG Prestige MP. I think the Pro Tour 630 hits a much heavier ball, has much less vibration, much less shock, and much sweeter feel than the IG Prestige MP.

Check plow through and power index at TW university of a pro ball between ig radical mp and ig prestige mp
 
Ok. The numbers are great for the Radical. Check out the LM Prestige Mid on TW University. The LM Prestige Mid has better numbers. But on court was a piece of garbage. I go by what I experience with racquets on the court.
I agree the LM was junk, but that was due to feel, not power

PT630 hits a heavy ball due to its weight mainly in the caps that are long gone

In summary the PT 630 is expensive to make twaron etc.... , the original caps are long gone ,,,,, RIP heading towards what happened to the PC600 , the best hitting frame on the planet that was once so popular on the pro tour now not many use it, sad:( , tell me how many elite juniors are using a Prestige mid these days, most are playing with babolats
 
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I use the replacement LM Prestige MP CAP grommets with no problem. I also had the LM Prestige mid spec'd to my PC600. The PC600 was more powerful with better feel and a bigger sweet spot. That is also what I did with the IG Prestige MP. That is customized to my specs. Still not as powerful as the PT630 with inferior CAP Grommets.

There is still one guy in the top 100 using the PC600 and that is Robin Haase. HEAD did a great job with the IG Prestige Mid. The feel is very close and the power is the same as the PC600. To bad the IG Prestige MP is not even in the same ball park as the Pro Tour 630. They can do it. It will be interesting what is going to happen when they start to market Graphene with the Prestige series.

I found the MG prestige mid the closet to the PC600, have not tried the IG Prestige mid , I could not get over the clear caps , might bust out the mid and see if I can hang with the college boys, I can with the aeroro lite :cry:

The head ads,,,,,, that's all you see,,,,,,power. I was using the original extremes for extra pop but they had too much power that I was losing control , never knew I could like the new 2013 aeroro lite which have a dampened feel and easily customizable, I skipped all the grahene stuff from head.
 
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just popped in here to say that Federer gave up his 90 for a bigger wilson 98 open pattern ( a wanna be PT630 open pattern) , for more power and more forgiving frame especially on his BH mishits, guys give it up, the nostalgia is over, all the wannabe fed 90 sluggers are running frantically :) what would they do now:confused: hey I love the buttery feeling of both 90 and PT630, but like I said the game has changed, Federer knows this, he needs more power and more forgiveness to hang with the big boys he is at #5, I just lost 6-3 to a #1 college slugger using the limited PT630, that I normally beat 6-3 with the aeropro drive, it was the best feeling I got losing 6-3, my shots were thumping and buttery YET I LOST. :cry:
 
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