Short angled forehand question
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your question is a bit confusing to me... but whenever i'm thinking short angle... i'm aiming for the side T if i can.
but generally anywhere i can hit it where the ball crosses the side line before it crosses the baseline, is probably a decent shot.
but generally anywhere i can hit it where the ball crosses the side line before it crosses the baseline, is probably a decent shot.
SinjinCooper
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Not sure exactly what the question is. But with only very small divergences, tennis is played in straight lines when viewed from overhead. The ball crosses the net where it needs to, given the starting point and the target, and you don't get to choose. Imagine them on that diagram, and draw a straight line between. That'll show you where it has to cross the net with only a very small margin for error.
The only things to consider are the pace and spin you might need to make that shot happen, and how to achieve them.
Wise one
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I think, it would be easier to aim to the net.
I see it better (eg).
Pete Player
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It’s all trigonometry. Figure out the spot at the net, over which you need to spin it accross and work from there on. After a while, I think you don’t need to hit a spot above the net, but visualize the shot trajectory and find the sideline with ease.
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J011yroger
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If the ball goes out it is because you don't have enough spin, not because your aim is wrong.
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atp2015
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Visualize a straight line between your target and contact point. The intersection of the imaginary line and the net is where you want the ball to go over.
For short angle forehand, my coach would place the target cone 1 or 2 feet inside the sideline AND the service line.
For short angle forehand, my coach would place the target cone 1 or 2 feet inside the sideline AND the service line.
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Doc Hollidae
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Approaching the shot this way probably makes it more difficult to execute vs. just aiming for a spot on the court.
FiReFTW
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Thats what makes it strange for me too.
Could a 3.5 player produce this spin?
Traffic
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I can see your point. I look towards the area I want to hit and then see where my ball is and what part of the net the ball needs to clear. So aim for the target area and then view how much elevation is needed to clear the net. I don't think I can aim for the net.
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ah, i see, you're just looking for a reference point,... kinda like a painter's thumb.
personally i don't think that way.
i generally "know" where i'm am, and "in my mind's eye" know approximately where the rest of the court is, and hit my shot based on feel (and the hours i've presumably spent trying to hit that shot)
i've never used the net as a reference point on where to aim (other than, "make sure it's at least 3-3.5ft high") - mainly because of what everyone else said, your aim point will vary based on your spin, pace, incoming shot, etc...
FiReFTW
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Yeah, I mean when the ball is coming to you then you should be tracking the ball and completely have eyes fixed on the ball till after contact even slightly, not where the net is and how you aim there, tho with the corners of ur eyes you should also be aware of where ur opponent is on the court and his position and movement.
J011yroger
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Yes, but understand that you have to hit the ball much slower than your normal forehand. In an angle shot you are trading ballspeed to hit the ball farther from your opponent.
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Pete Player
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The trade off is only in the behaviour of the ball, it is taking off slower, yet you hit with lot of rhs. Sometimes even harder/faster than the norm shot to back of the court.
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5263
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I think you should read this thread and jump to the head of the class....
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=413112&highlight=practice+for+Smarter+Targets
Pete Player
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The smart target thread is a lump of gold.
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5263
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Thanks. I think there is a lot of important info encoded into a very simple concept with Smart Targets.
Imo, Picking spots of the net is very key to improvement. I generally refer to it as the Windows over the net you are looking to hit thru. Some windows are 1st story and some are second story for more net clearance. Some windows will work well for each area of the court and help to send the ball on the best target lines or shot paths that you can envision.
Pete Player
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I’m aiming to clear the net in certain point in my serves outside the service box to draw it back inside the box.
I think it derives from golf as I’m hitting my windows off the tee.
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I think it derives from golf as I’m hitting my windows off the tee.
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5263
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learning the shapes of certain shot paths is excellent high level skill
Morch Us
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You are assuming, only the depth where you are standing affects short angles. You also has to consider how far to the side you are. There is a huge difference in angles open,
1. if you are in the service line at T (middle of court) vs
2. if you are in service line at singles sideline (one end of the court).
You can clearly see that to get a good short angle, for case-1 you need to cross the net a bit further than central. But for case-2 you can cross at the middle of the net and still make a really good angle. In general, for consistency, you want to cross at the middle of the net. But your position determines whether crossing the middle of the net will make a good short angle or not, and there by making it a a risk vs reward question.
Instead of aiming where it crosses the net, you can achieve the same by imagine how the ball path is going to be.
1. if you are in the service line at T (middle of court) vs
2. if you are in service line at singles sideline (one end of the court).
You can clearly see that to get a good short angle, for case-1 you need to cross the net a bit further than central. But for case-2 you can cross at the middle of the net and still make a really good angle. In general, for consistency, you want to cross at the middle of the net. But your position determines whether crossing the middle of the net will make a good short angle or not, and there by making it a a risk vs reward question.
Instead of aiming where it crosses the net, you can achieve the same by imagine how the ball path is going to be.
