All New in '22?
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Rosstour
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This is to say: Zero Slam titles for Fed, Djo, or Nad next year?
Wouldn’t shock me in the slightest.
Nope. 2-3 for Novak, again.
Chanwan
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Would shock me a lot. Expect 2-3 for the Big 1,5 again next year (Rafa being the half). 1-2 for the field (Med, Thiem, Sissy and Goldie Chains)This is to say: Zero Slam titles for Fed, Djo, or Nad next year?
Wouldn’t shock me in the slightest.
JustMy2Cents
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It could go either way. My feeling is that Medvedev can now win more slams, that a younger newcomer is going to have a breakthrough GS and win, Nadal will get his health and fitness level back to play competitively on clay and will have a strong chance at the French Open, Thiem could come back from injury and win another slam. Djokovic of course has the potential to win more slams next year too. What is going to be exciting is that now it is much more possible that other players will start winning slams or that Medvedev and Thiem can win more slams too. Possible doesn't mean will do but it means that the Grand Slams will have more excitement!!!
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
People trusting Medvedev too much after 1 win.
This is still the same guy that can get randomly tilted in the middle of winnable matches as badly as Murray used to.
This is still the same guy that can get randomly tilted in the middle of winnable matches as badly as Murray used to.
gjm127
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I think it all depends on AO22. When was the last time 2 straight majors were won by non-Big 3 members?
Two possible scenarios:
A-Djoker wins AO22, sets the tone for other majors in the same year and we're back to where we were pre-USO21
B-Non Big-3 member wins AO22, this would be the. 3rd straight relevant title that a non-Big 3 member would win, surely Djoker wouldn't be favored at RG (maybe still at Wimb but in all fairness, at that point we'd all expect someone else to win it) and the rest is history.
Two possible scenarios:
A-Djoker wins AO22, sets the tone for other majors in the same year and we're back to where we were pre-USO21
B-Non Big-3 member wins AO22, this would be the. 3rd straight relevant title that a non-Big 3 member would win, surely Djoker wouldn't be favored at RG (maybe still at Wimb but in all fairness, at that point we'd all expect someone else to win it) and the rest is history.
Chanwan
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I think Med's win will do more for the nextGen/lostGen/the field than Thiem's US Open win did, because Med actually beat Djokovic. He showed it's possible. That should install believe in Zverev, Tsitsipas, Rublev, Shapovalov etc. At the same time, Djoko is not getting any younger and who knows, there might come a time, where he's not the freshest in the 5th anymore (sometime post 2025 of course).
As I said above, I still expect him to be the best player/the player to beat in the slams next year, but I'm hoping for more competition than we've seen in recent times.
Good point on the AO being key in either stopping the field's momentum or building it. Djoko will be a massive favorite come Wimbledon regardless, none of the best younger players are that relevant on grass. To me, he's (much) more of a lock at Wimbledon than at AO next year.
Milehigh5280
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Got a long ways to go, but I don't see anyone stopping Djokovic at Wimbledon assuming he's fit and in form
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I am actually thinking Medvedev will win AO and WImbledon next year - or I should say that he has a strong chance at it. When a player breaks through and wins a major who has the talent level (Murray and Wawrinka are who I am thinking about) then they do go on to win a few more slams. Medvedev has the advantage that the big 3 are getting older and it will be harder for them to win as much as they used to (not impossible but much more difficult) - this will help him to win more slams.
Fabresque
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AO maybe. Wimbledon? No. Medvedev is good on the grass but not good enough to beat Djokovic, and unless Federer somehow returns to at least top 5 form, it’s Novak’s to lose.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
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Kralingen
Talk Tennis Guru
I feel like Nadal has a very long road back but if he overcomes it, he will still be favored for RG. A lot easier said than done.
Wimbledon is the one where I don’t see the NG breaking through. Djokovic would have to be really poor to lose that and of course Federer/Nadal could always make a magical run as well.
Could definitely see 3 NextGen champs and only 1 Big 3 though. That’s probably most likely.
Wimbledon is the one where I don’t see the NG breaking through. Djokovic would have to be really poor to lose that and of course Federer/Nadal could always make a magical run as well.
Could definitely see 3 NextGen champs and only 1 Big 3 though. That’s probably most likely.
Lleytonstation
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Not a chance. However, tennis is used to selling ties, I mean they did it at WC19 so why not with the slam race?
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There are several players who could potentially win Wimbledon next year IF they get their mental game issues solved or their injuries healed and healthy enough to win. We will have to wait and see who is doing well next spring leading up to Wimbledon and then watch it all unfold...
ffw2
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I don't have an insider's tip or anything here, but my intuition tells me it's not happening.
I don't see the 20-20-20 deadlock being broken.
Until... downward revision, that is.
rUDin 21
Hall of Fame
Shapovalov and Berrettini have a chance next year at the Wimbledon.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Think only Djokovic has a realistic chance of winning a slam next year out of the big three.
Think Federer and Nadal are both too banged up. Nadal's suspect stamina is not going to get any better and doubt either of the two can blast their way through carrying all those injuries.
Novak could only walk away with one slam also. But yeah, he is the one to likely steal one from the next gen.
Think Federer and Nadal are both too banged up. Nadal's suspect stamina is not going to get any better and doubt either of the two can blast their way through carrying all those injuries.
Novak could only walk away with one slam also. But yeah, he is the one to likely steal one from the next gen.
gjm127
Hall of Fame
Med and Zverev have theirs at USO. Med and Tsits maybe at AO. Still no one at RG.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
On clay, Rafa is still the favorite if he is playing at 80%
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Don't think his foot will allow him personally. He looks in bad shape.
Autodidactic player
Professional
I think that we are more likely to see Djokovic going for a calendar year slam again at next year's US Open than we are to see no big three slam winner in 2022.
ffw2
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rUDin 21
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Why not Tsitsipas at RG?
Autodidactic player
Professional
Ooh... I'd take that... bet (
I think Djokovic will be a slight favorite at the Australian and a big favorite at Wimbledon. Rafa will be the favorite at the French if he is healthy. Djokovic will also be about even money at the US Open. Based on that, I see the odds of one of the big three (realistically big 2 now) winning a slam next year is fairly high, making the odds of none of them winning a slam very, very low. In my opinion, even lower than the odds of Djokovic winning the first three and going for a CYGS in NY. Of course, just my 2¢.
This is to say: Zero Slam titles for Fed, Djo, or Nad next year?
Wouldn’t shock me in the slightest.
Med - AO 2022
Tsitsi - FO 2022
Zv - Wimbledon 2022
Med - USO 2022
Now place those bets, win big and retire!
GabeT
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Bad intuitionI don't have an insider's tip or anything here, but my intuition tells me it's not happening.
I don't see the 20-20-20 deadlock being broken.
Until... downward revision, that is.
ffw2
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Nadal_King
Hall of Fame
If Rafa gets fully fit and is back even 70-80% close to 2019 level then surely can win Rg again and be in contention for other slams. Regarding Djokovic he will be a threat everywhere although at Rg don't see him winning as field will be tougher there next year with thiem and possibly likes of Alcaraz, sinner also getting better
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
Med did go 7-2 on grass this year, but is a non-impressive 25-14 (i.e. 18-12 before this year) on grass for his career. I doubt he's ready to compete with Djoko there next year. HC, sure. Clay, no. Grass, not yet, maybe in the future.
I've never understood these kind of percentages. What do they mean? That he can run at 70-80 % of the speed he ran with in 2019? That he can hit at 70-80 % of the speed he hit his groundies and serve with in 2019? Either way, that's a Rafa that doesn't belong on the ATP tour. The difference between the top dogs and the rest of the field is not so great that the top dogs can compete at 70 % (again, whatever that means) of their capacity.
Swingmaster
Hall of Fame
It'll be the last year of Djoker and Nadal (at the French) being the clear cut favorites.
ffw2
Hall of Fame
Still eight months out tho. A lot can change.
Hopefully the Earth hasn't careened into the sun by then.
I'm looking forward to something different, tennis-wise.
Sampras-Bruguera 1993
Legend
Nadal will work hard for one more run. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he does nothing OR is a legit contender at all 4 slams next year.. That lefty topspin is still tough for anyone to deal with. The question will remain his movement and stamina.
Bubcay
Legend
Medvedev was not properly challenged at US Open. Djokovic was quite disappointing to be honest. Thus, I agree with you.
ffw2
Hall of Fame
How many breaks do you see him taking between the Slams?
CHillTennis
Hall of Fame
This is to say: Zero Slam titles for Fed, Djo, or Nad next year?
Wouldn’t shock me in the slightest.
Not to take anything away from Medvedev's US Open win.
It was very impressive.
But I don't think this is the moment, where the NextGen takes over from the Big 3 and pushes them out of the picture.
I made a video about this on my channel:
I think that Nadal and Djokovic will remain as the favorites to win the non-hard court slams for the foreseeable future.
guanzishou
G.O.A.T.
CYGS for Opelka.
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