Anyone else have problem with gut unraveling?

pow

Hall of Fame
I just came back from my stringer and he says that the Klip Armour Pro 16 I bought kept unraveling while he was stringing my racquet and he was trying to keep the string from coming apart. What's that all about?
 

Gaines Hillix

Hall of Fame
I just came back from my stringer and he says that the Klip Armour Pro 16 I bought kept unraveling while he was stringing my racquet and he was trying to keep the string from coming apart. What's that all about?

This sounds like an inexperienced stringer at work. You have to check the twist of the string while you're weaving the crosses when stringing NG to make sure that when you push the string through the near side hole and pull out enough string to reach the other side and start weaving that you don't loop the string in the opposite direction as the natural twist of the string. This will get worse as more crosses are strung. It's worse on strings that have no coating or a light coating. It's nothing to worry about when stringing the mains. There was a long discussion on this about a year ago on the GSS board. You might try finding it over there.
 

NoBadMojo

G.O.A.T.
I just came back from my stringer and he says that the Klip Armour Pro 16 I bought kept unraveling while he was stringing my racquet and he was trying to keep the string from coming apart. What's that all about?

This sounds like an inexperienced stringer at work. You have to check the twist of the string while you're weaving the crosses when stringing NG to make sure that when you push the string through the near side hole and pull out enough string to reach the other side and start weaving that you don't loop the string in the opposite direction as the natural twist of the string. This will get worse as more crosses are strung. It's worse on strings that have no coating or a light coating. It's nothing to worry about when stringing the mains. There was a long discussion on this about a year ago on the GSS board. You might try finding it over there.

Hi Gaines. havent seen you around in ages. you were always a solid poster. hope you stick around.

You need to be particularly careful w. the Armourpro. It does tend to unravel if you dont pay attention. Seems as though each strand is coated..i think the process is different. It also drags really hard when pulling the crosses <especially the first couple> so i suggest waxing the mains
 

rasajadad

Hall of Fame
Hi Gaines. havent seen you around in ages. you were always a solid poster. hope you stick around.

You need to be particularly careful w. the Armourpro. It does tend to unravel if you dont pay attention. Seems as though each strand is coated..i think the process is different. It also drags really hard when pulling the crosses <especially the first couple> so i suggest waxing the mains

The Legend does the same thing too, btw.

As far as the question goes, the unraveling usually starts happening on the last half of the crosses. What I do is start to sew (completely pull) the bottom crosses through the mains. I find if I just weave them, the string doesn't have the chance to relax back into it's normal twist. (Kind of like coiling an extension cord or garden hose. It only lays right if you twist it "with the grain.")

I also wax the mains.
 

NoBadMojo

G.O.A.T.
The Legend does the same thing too, btw.

As far as the question goes, the unraveling usually starts happening on the last half of the crosses. What I do is start to sew (completely pull) the bottom crosses through the mains. I find if I just weave them, the string doesn't have the chance to relax back into it's normal twist. (Kind of like coiling an extension cord or garden hose. It only lays right if you twist it "with the grain.")

I also wax the mains.

i probably have strung 40-50 Legend string jobs and never had one unravel and never even gave it much thought. the armourpro? that one you have to pay close attention to. i tend to prefer string gut in 2 pieces. In that manner, your not working the string as much so less chance of unraveling when you get near the end of the crosses
 
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rasajadad

Hall of Fame
i probably have strung 40-50 Legend string jobs and never had one unravel and never even gave it much thought. the armourpro? that one you have to pay close attention to. i tend to prefer string gut in 2 pieces. In that manner, your not working the string as much so less chance of unraveling when you get near the end of the crosses

Maybe I just got a bad one? Maybe it's my technique on weaving crosses.
 

NoBadMojo

G.O.A.T.
Maybe I just got a bad one? Maybe it's my technique on weaving crosses.

sure..it's always possible to get a bad one of anything. not directing this at you, but i dont think it reasonable for people to assume that because they've had one less than good experience with something or someone, all their experiences will be bad . this is what commonly happens around here.
 

Richie Rich

Legend
sure..it's always possible to get a bad one of anything. not directing this at you, but i dont think it reasonable for people to assume that because they've had one less than good experience with something or someone, all their experiences will be bad . this is what commonly happens around here.

i can understand a little when gut costs $35 - having something bad happen would leave a bitter taste in my mouth. $5 syn gut on the other hand - no worries.
 

pow

Hall of Fame
Is there any damage caused by it? there seems to be one part on a cross on the outside of the grommet where the string is fatter due to unraveling, is there anything I should / can do to it. So far it hasn't really affected anything but I'm afraid it will.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
 

rasajadad

Hall of Fame
sure..it's always possible to get a bad one of anything. not directing this at you, but i dont think it reasonable for people to assume that because they've had one less than good experience with something or someone, all their experiences will be bad . this is what commonly happens around here.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the string. As you can see that I use both the Legend and the Armor Pro. In fact, I have been a fan. I'm just saying my stringing technique may be wrong (I am self taught) or that I may have gotten a bad set. Being a natural product you never know.
 
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