Are thin gauges Polys spin friendly... in theory?

McEncock

Professional
Ofcourse, that is common sense : the thinner the gauge, the bigger the combs, the deeper the ball pockets, etc...

But what I've noticed stringing my pc600 with a large variety of polys, is that I got more spin with thicker polys.
Now, I have an idea about what's happening in my stringbed :
Maybe the thicker the gauge, the stiffer the poly. And maybe stifness is the second quality after slickness to give a good snapback.
What do you think?
 

Big Bagel

Professional
In general, thinner strings will get you more spin because they can move more and they can bit the ball better, acting in a similar way to a shaped string when comparing the thin string to its thicker counterpart. That is not a rule, however, because all strings act a little different. Some strings might give you more spin when they are thicker. Also you might subconsciously swing a little faster with thicker strings because there's slightly less power from them, and the slightly faster swing speed could be generating more spin.

In summary, thinner usually equals more spin, but not always; sometimes because of the string, sometimes because of you.
 

McEncock

Professional
I used to think like you, but my testing made me doubt :
YPTP Gave me more spin in 1.25 than 1.20
Same for HyperG
Same for AluPower compared to
AluFeel

Not to mension that all the super sharp textured ones gave me less spin than round slick ones / textured but slick ones.

Seems like intuition / theory makes me chose small gauge and abrasive poly, and experience normal gauge and slick polys.

Btw, YPTSpin is the sharpest, edgyest poly I've tryed, and it's not spin frendly
 

Moveforwardalways

Hall of Fame
Thicker polys give you a stiffer string bed, which probably at least contributes to feeling like you get more spin. The difference between a 16 gauge and a 19 gauge in the same string can mean a string bed stiffness difference of 100 points in some cases, depending on the string. As is often said, players find a string bed stiffness they like, and they will like any string of any material at that string bed stiffness, because it will feel similar.
 

McEncock

Professional
But I drop tension when I go thicker, in order to feel the same stiffness.
I think that with thicker gauge, the launching angle is lower, which allows me to swing with more spin angle.
 

Big Bagel

Professional
the launching angle is lower, which allows me to swing with more spin angle.
Exactly. The string itself does not give you more spin, but with it you swing slightly different in a more spin-friendly path. There have been studies that show in general a thinner string will give you more spin than its thicker counterpart, but that is assuming everything else remains equal; tension, swing speed, swing path, etc. If you change anything else along with the gauge, you cannot accurately compare the two.
 

Muppet

Legend
I think the gauge has to work with the elasticity for the string to be durable enough and still be spin friendly. For a string to impart good spin, it has to 'put on the brakes', grab the ball, and release the ball with spin before the ball rolls across the racquet face. By not stretching much, polys act on the ball more explosively than other material strings. So they have more spin potential when you learn how to use them. Usually, high gauge thin polys are more elastic while thicker polys can be less elastic and not break as much. And then there are also thick, elastic polys that are geared toward comfort.
 
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