As many have said over the years, Nadal would have been destroyed by the serve and volleyers......

[BringBackSV]

I said the mono virus stays with you forever, which is a fact. Just like the herpes virus stays with you forever. Call up Robin Soderling and ask him how long mono stays with you.

Roger was not going to blame all of his losses on mono. He's way too classy for that. But anyone who's watched every single one of his matches over the past 12 years knows the truth.

If Soderling's problem was mono related (I find that to be questionable), that is a very rare case. You don't seem to realize that almost everybody has had mono. You said it stays with you (which I never disputed) but it's a rather meaningless statement given that it's typically dormant. You claimed that people are never the same after having gotten it which is just untrue in virtually every instance.

Again, you want to make excuses for Roger and that's your prerogative but it's extremely weak. Btw, the notion that he was being diplomatic is contradicted by the reality that he did make an excuse for the loss. He blamed it on a lack of confidence from the unholy RG08 final beatdown.

 

[BreakPoint]

At his peak he could, like said before he beat Mirnyi, Ancic, Bjorkman, Fish, Karlovic on grass.
I am not saying Nadal would for sure win Wimbledon in the 80's, but at least try to state facts instead of writing this load of crap.

How many WTFs has Nadal won on today's slow indoor hardcourts? Do you think he would have won even one on 90's fast indoor carpet?

How many Wimbledons did Nadal win on today's slow grass when he had to face 7 serve and volleyers in a row? How about even just 5 out of 7? 4 out of 7? When he actually faced a guy who served and volleyed all the time, he lost (Muller and Brown). Would he have won more in the 90's against mostly serve and volleyers on the fast, low-bouncing Wimbleobn grass?

 

[BreakPoint]

Thanks for correcting my facts. I got the Sergio Tacchini stick information from

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/bruguera-93-rolland-garros-racquet.414322/

However, how does that change the fact that he didn't use a PS85? You still haven't told me why Nadal wouldn't have won 7 FO's without a Bab and Poly when nobody else had access to them either. Face it, Bab or not, Nadal is a once in a lifetime slow court player.

Because Nadal NEEDS his APD and poly strings in order to play his game. His whole game is built around his equipment. Not true with most of the players in the 90's. They could play with smaller racquets and gut strings. Nadal would be pretty awful with a PS85 strung with gut.

 

[helterskelter]

Federer is never low on confidence, especially on grass. He moves on from tough losses as well as anyone to ever play.

He simply lost a close match against an all-time great who was just reaching his prime as Federer was just exiting his own. It was a match that could have easily gone either way, a match in which both guys were insanely clutch at various points and ultimately Nadal was just a little bit better in the end that day.

If Federer were that fragile psychologically, I seriously doubt he'd have followed up that beat down at RG and that heartbreaking loss at Wimbledon by making the finals of the next 6 majors and winning half of them.

He won two-thirds of them!

 

[Keizer]

Because Nadal NEEDS his APD and poly strings in order to play his game. His whole game is built around his equipment. Not true with most of the players in the 90's. They could play with smaller racquets and gut strings. Nadal would be pretty awful with a PS85 strung with gut.

Can you give me one solid example of Nadal being inflexible with his equipment? And just because players in the 90s used control sticks doesn't mean they were more flexible equipment-wise. Hell, your man Sampras couldn't bear to use a non SV PS, was the first to have a personal stringer and needed the tension to be 75lbs exactly. Sure he talks about how he could've won more slams if he switched to a tweener, but hindsight is always 20/20. Are you saying he'd have won multiple FOs in the 90s if you gave him a tweener stick strung with poly at 55, like the one Nadal uses? Fact of the matter is that Nadal is more flexible than a lot of top players today when it comes to equipment. Fed, Djoker, Murray, Stan and a ton of others pay P1 40k a year to ensure their rackets are as homogenous as possible; Nadal just has his strung by tournament stringers. To me, that indicates more flexibility, not less. And why do you keep spouting your nonsense about winning slams with the PS85 with gut? Nobody ever said a slam won with a PS85 was worth more than a slam won with an APD, a Radical Pro Stock or a PT57a, and anyone who tries to is an idiot. None of these sticks were ever illegal and therefore no slam won with the help of one of them is worth more than a slam won with the help of another. Nadal is free to decide what stick he wants to use and the weight of his accomplishments is unaffected by that decision.

 

[zagor]

It has nothing to do with his playing style, Dustin is just a better player on grass (as evidenced by their H2H). Nadal did very well to take a set, considering.

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

To think his first post back would actually be a troll post.

 

[Deleted member 307496]

To think his first post back would actually be a troll post.

Not really surprised to be honest.. He had it in his mind before he exiled himself that everyone who didn't believe Federer was the absolute best ever was a hater/Nadal fanatic.

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

The sun setting on Nadal makes it safe? But Nadal has 5 suns.

 

[Deleted member 307496]

The sun setting on Nadal makes it safe? But Nadal has 5 suns.

Nadal dropping back to No. 10 means little. At least in terms of how many Grand Slams he will end up with.

He will win at least one more major before he hangs it up. Mark my words.

 

[Sysyphus]

Not really surprised to be honest.. He had it in his mind before he exiled himself that everyone who didn't believe Federer was the absolute best ever was a hater/Nadal fanatic.

This sounds as obvious as anything to me?

 

[zagor]

He had it in his mind...

You can read my mind? Why, that's quite a gift you have there.

...that everyone who didn't believe Federer was the absolute best ever was a hater/Nadal fanatic.

That would mean I consider myself to be a Fed hater/Nadal fanatic.

 

[NatF]

I remember the theories way back when that zagor and Chico were one and the same...

 

[Sysyphus]

I remember the theories way back when that zagor and Chico were one and the same...

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/nole-in-2015.512273/page-2#post-8726688

LOL, just did a quick search and read this exchange. My Chico-paranoia has now blown into overdrive again

@zagor can you confirm/invalidate? Any link at all to the fabled Chicster?

 

[NatF]

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/nole-in-2015.512273/page-2#post-8726688

LOL, just did a quick search and read this exchange. My Chico-paranoia has now blown into overdrive again

@zagor can you confirm/invalidate? Any link at all to the fabled Chicster?

Chico is banned and zagor waits just long enough before resurfacing

 

[Terr]

Don't see him faring well in matches with SnV players today, doubt very much he would have done better on faster courts of yesteryear.

 

[Sysyphus]

Chico is banned and zagor waits just long enough before resurfacing

 

[NatF]

Epic gif

 

[zagor]

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/nole-in-2015.512273/page-2#post-8726688

LOL, just did a quick search and read this exchange. My Chico-paranoia has now blown into overdrive again

@zagor can you confirm/invalidate? Any link at all to the fabled Chicster?

Haha, that exchange is awesome! I love me a good internet mystery.

I'm almost sorry to offer a logical explanation (cause it's fun to see people speculate) but the best one I can give is that Zagor comic is very popular in all ex-Yugoslav states (not just Serbia) so finding another Serb that is both a fan of that comic and a tennis fan (the interest in the sport is at an all-time high among Serbs since Novak's massive success) is not really that much of a coincidence.

Regarding Chico, I only saw him at MTF, didn't even know he was a poster here. I guess he could be a real life acquaintance though I don't think I know anybody that posts on TW. He's not my double account (mods are free to check my IP), that's not my style.

 

[NatF]

Haha, that exchange is awesome! I love me a good internet mystery.

I'm almost sorry to offer a logical explanation (cause it's fun to see people speculate) but the best one I can give is that Zagor comic is very popular in all ex-Yugoslav states (not just Serbia) so finding another Serb that is both a fan of that comic and a tennis fan (the interest in the sport is at an all-time high among Serbs since Novak's massive success) is not really that much of a coincidence.

Regarding Chico, I only saw him at MTF, didn't even know he was a poster here. I guess he could be a real life acquaintance though I don't think I know anybody that posts on TW. He's not my double account (mods are free to check my IP), that's not my style.

I'm still not convinced. There is only one true test that I know of...

When did the current decade begin?

 

[abmk]

I remember the theories way back when that zagor and Chico were one and the same...

Please, please , tell me for God's sake that you are kidding !!!!

 

[abmk]

Zagor,

Welcome back to the forum ! Its been such a long time !!!!!!!!!!

 

[NatF]

Please, please , tell me for God's sake that you are kidding !!!!

I'm not. There were serious discussions...

 

[Deleted member 307496]

Isn't Chico Canadian?

I'm not one of zagor's biggest fans, but I can almost assure everyone here they aren't the same person.. Chico for one couldn't handle anybody saying Djokovic wasn't an aggressive player and both have totally different agendas on this forum.

 

[Sysyphus]

Haha, that exchange is awesome! I love me a good internet mystery.

I'm almost sorry to offer a logical explanation (cause it's fun to see people speculate) but the best one I can give is that Zagor comic is very popular in all ex-Yugoslav states (not just Serbia) so finding another Serb that is both a fan of that comic and a tennis fan (the interest in the sport is at an all-time high among Serbs since Novak's massive success) is not really that much of a coincidence.

Regarding Chico, I only saw him at MTF, didn't even know he was a poster here. I guess he could be a real life acquaintance though I don't think I know anybody that posts on TW. He's not my double account (mods are free to check my IP), that's not my style.

Haha, I see.

Wasn't seriously suspecting it given that I've read some of your poasts, and have a hard time believing you'd devote 10 000 + poasts to writing Chicoisms.

Still funny that Chico chose to name himself after what I gather is the short/fat/dorky sidekick of the comic

Isn't Chico Canadian?

I'm not one of zagor's biggest fans, but I can almost assure everyone here they aren't the same person.. Chico for one couldn't handle anybody saying he wasn't an aggressive player -- and both have two totally different agendas on this forum.

In that theory Chico would obviously have to be a persona/troll.

Which would in many ways be a comforting thought....

 

[abmk]

I'm not. There were serious discussions...

yeah, I saw those ....

Nuts

 

[Deleted member 307496]

In that theory Chico would obviously have to be a persona/troll.

Which would in many ways be a comforting thought....

It would be a comforting thought, but no troll would post 10,000 times over one and a half years about Novak being an "aggressive" player -- he simply believed it and was insulted when anybody tried to say he was defensive.

I can't help but crack up laughing remembering it.

 

[NatF]

yeah, I saw those ....

Nuts

Yeah zagor is one of the good posters I remember from when I first joined. I found those talks pretty funny.

 

[Sysyphus]

It would be a comforting thought, but no troll would post 10,000 times over one and a half years about Novak being an "aggressive" player -- he simply believed it and was insulted when anybody tried to say he was defensive.

I can't help but crack up laughing remembering it.

Yeah, I too have always taken Chico to be genuine. So yeah, don't think Chico has a serious double.

(N.S.K. has amassed quite a few poasts over quite a few accounts though, and I don't think that one's serious).

 

[Deleted member 307496]

Yeah, I too have always taken Chico to be genuine. So yeah, don't think Chico has a serious double.

(N.S.K. has amassed quite a few poasts over quite a few accounts though, and I don't think that one's serious).

N.S.K had about 3 accounts at once. And many more since..

 

[Sysyphus]

@Sabratha Yeah, but did you think he was genuine though?

 

[Deleted member 307496]

@Sabratha Yeah, but did you think he was genuine though?

On his original account from like 2010? Yeah.. After that? Nope.

 

[mattennis]

mono

That is quite an ownage!!!

In fact, this was the one and only time in Federer's WHOLE career that he won 11 consecutive matches on grass without losing a SINGLE set.

So result-wise, it was the peakest of the peakest of Federer on grass.

But don't lose your time with some deluded posters.

 

[Sentinel]

Great to see zagor back. If I recall he once said that if Malakas was banned he would leave TTW. And when she was, he left.

I take it as a good omen for Federer that @zagor is gracing this forum again with his presence.

Any comparison between Z and Chiico is laughable. Ch was banned in January and has taken his business to MTF. Friends there keep alerting me to his ridiculous posts/thread and the storms he raises.

 

[Sentinel]

It has nothing to do with his playing style, Dustin is just a better player on grass (as evidenced by their H2H). Nadal did very well to take a set, considering.

Nadal is lucky to have escaped having Dustin in his draw in 2008 and 2010 when Dustin was in his peak-prime.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Great to see zagor back. If I recall he once said that if Malakas was banned he would leave TTW. And when she was, he left.

I take it as a good omen for Federer that @zagor is gracing this forum again with his presence.

Any comparison between Z and Chiico is laughable. Ch was banned in January and has taken his business to MTF. Friends there keep alerting me to his ridiculous posts/thread and the storms he raises.

The username of the girl who was banned...do you know what that means? I can't believe she got away with that username. LOL

 

[Feather]

Please, please , tell me for God's sake that you are kidding !!!!

hehehe

Welcome back to the forum, Zagor!

I really missed you here and hope you stay here long

 

[Sentinel]

The username of the girl who was banned...do you know what that means? I can't believe she got away with that username. LOL

oh, yes, now that you mention it, i do. She then signed up at MTF and posted for a short while with the same user name.

 

[dominikk1985]

didn't fed do some serve and volley against him in 07 and 08?

 

[coloskier]

The username of the girl who was banned...do you know what that means? I can't believe she got away with that username. LOL

Yes, that is pretty funny that she got away with it as long as she did. I earned what "Malakas" meant in college when I would frequent Greek fast food restaurants after a night at the bars.

 

[Raging Buddha]

I find it somewhat amusing that people who joined in 2012 or later talk about events from long before then.

 

[spinovic]

He won two-thirds of them!

2008 U.S. Open
2009 Wimbledon, Roland Garros
2010 Australian Open

Correct you are. Need to brush up on my math apparently. Anyway, that only makes the point stronger.

 

[spinovic]

I find it somewhat amusing that people who joined in 2012 or later talk about events from long before then.

The sport of tennis does pre-date the advent of the internet...by a century or so. I dare say it's possible that some people discovered the sport before the forum. But, maybe I'm an outlier in that regard.

 

[PrinceMoron]

Not if they were 5.5ft tall instead of 6.1

and imagine if Isner and Karlovic were as quick as Ferrer, I don't think Federer would beat them on a regular basis
Add a Nalbandian like backhand to Roddick's game and Federer was not winning 7 Wimbledon

Not with that stupid racquet.

 

[swizzy]

thank heavens nadal did all his winning after the 90's

 

[moonballs]

It's amazing how many live in fantasyland here. So many want to talk about the 90's and lighter balls and smaller rackets. And now it is time machines, pretty hilarious how some will do anything they can to diminish rafa one of the greatest of all time.

But of coarse the main reason for all the hate is because this kid from Spain came and rained on feds parade. How they miss the days before rafa came along and fed got to whoop on the weak field that he racked up most of his majors in. Those were the days weren't they all the frontrunner fans were in heaven.

Nadal is definitely declined. But he is still ranked no 10 and his ranking will go back to top 8 soon. But Brown is consistently ranked around 100. So basically a top 10 baseliner got schooled by a top 100 S&V er on grass. And this is after the baseliner won A grass warm up tournament by beating baseliners. The result is pretty telling. I see a lopsided matchup between the styles on fast surface.