Atp stupidity

[NAS]

Aslan is ranked 62 but he has to play qualifications round for RG.
Now he didn't get the desired ranking after Rome master, where you can say that the time was less but he got the ranking after Madrid one, three weeks before the start of RG.
Atp started the live ranking and what is the use of live ranking if you can't even use that result.
He was suppose to be top 100 by just reaching QF Or I think round four( somebody else with data can correct me) that is more than three weeks before the start of RG
Shouldnt RG wait untill the result of Madrid , second last master before RG.
They did the draw during or after Rome master so not going to change much

 

[lidoazndiabloboi]

Aslan is ranked 62 but he has to play qualifications round for RG.
Now he didn't get the desired ranking after Rome master, where you can say that the time was less but he got the ranking after Madrid one, three weeks before the start of RG.
Atp started the live ranking and what is the use of live ranking if you can't even use that result.
He was suppose to be top 100 by just reaching QF Or I think round four( somebody else with data can correct me) that is more than three weeks before the start of RG
Shouldnt RG wait untill the result of Madrid , second last master before RG.
They did the draw during or after Rome master so not going to change much

I believe the entry list cut off is about 1 month before the tournament starts, which would put it at mid April. I do agree, RG should do the cut off later, after Rome has completed.

 

[NAS]

I believe the entry list cut off is about 1 month before the tournament starts, which would put it at mid April. I do agree, RG should do the cut off later, after Rome has completed.

I can understand if they say that they can't wait till Rome as there is also qualification draw but not even waiting till Madrid master is stupidity of highest order.
What is the use of Madrid master if you are not using its result

 

[Max G.]

Because players need to know whether they should arrange to play in RG, to RG qualifying, or neither.

Seriously, do you guys know how annoying and expensive it is to get flights and hotels on short notice? Telling people a month ahead of time "yes you're in" or "no you're not" seems totally reasonable.

 

[NAS]

Because players need to know whether they should arrange to play in RG, to RG qualifying, or neither.

Seriously, do you guys know how annoying and expensive it is to get flights and hotels on short notice? Telling people a month ahead of time "yes you're in" or "no you're not" seems totally reasonable.

Then they should arrange their own tournament according to their time prefrence.
Only exception can be made up for Wimbledon because of small grass time frame.
Out of three master I am asking officals to take result consideration of two master till Madrid, am I asking so much

 

[NAS]

They can easily adjust this by blocking three four places per year for Aslan type situation, if there is no big deviation then those 3-4 places can be given as direct entry

 

[tennis3]

Because players need to know whether they should arrange to play in RG, to RG qualifying, or neither.

Seriously, do you guys know how annoying and expensive it is to get flights and hotels on short notice? Telling people a month ahead of time "yes you're in" or "no you're not" seems totally reasonable.

I know the RG seeding includes Rome results. Which is why Medvedev will be #2 and Djokovic #3.

So I assume "direct acceptance" is decided a month or so out? But ranking is based on the most recent ranking before the draw is posted?

So in theory, a player like Aslan Karatsav could have won Madrid and Rome, be ranked around #20 (or higher) and still have to play the qualies for RG, correct?

 

[Lukhas]

They can easily adjust this by blocking three four places per year for Aslan type situation, if there is no big deviation then those 3-4 places can be given as direct entry

There already is a list of alternate players for both the main and qualifying draw should there be forfeits in the draw. That's how Thiem or Fognini got in despite initially being scheduled to play the qualifiers. EDIT: Organizers also have wildcards to avoid such things, but they're completely discretionary as Thiem found out despite being a multiple time Sunday plate holder at Paris.

Roland Garros ATP Entry List and Seeds

ATP Tennis Entry Lists and seeds

www.dartsrankings.com

I know the RG seeding includes Rome results. Which is why Medvedev will be #2 and Djokovic #3.

So I assume "direct acceptance" is decided a month or so out? But ranking is based on the most recent ranking before the draw is posted?

So in theory, a player like Aslan Karatsav could have won Madrid and Rome, be ranked around #20 (or higher) and still have to play the qualies for RG, correct?

IIRC I recall Monfils saying in a VLOG that you need to register for tournaments at least six weeks in advance. For a player having injury setbacks, that means they'll just register for any tournament they're interested in and throw the towel at the last minute if necessary. Dunno if it's an ATP-only rule or if slams also have the same rule, because it sure looks like it : that would put the cutoff date for the RG qualifying draw around April 10th, while Madrid's main draw started on April 25th. Nevermind that the two-week Masters were hot garbage anyway in terms of scheduling (compounded by Rome's numerous rain delays), and the powers that'd be are planning to play more of them next year.

 

[Max G.]

I know the RG seeding includes Rome results. Which is why Medvedev will be #2 and Djokovic #3.

So I assume "direct acceptance" is decided a month or so out? But ranking is based on the most recent ranking before the draw is posted?

So in theory, a player like Aslan Karatsav could have won Madrid and Rome, be ranked around #20 (or higher) and still have to play the qualies for RG, correct?

Yeah, seeding can be done at the last moment. All the players are there, the seeding only needs to be done right before the draw is done.

Acceptance deadline - the entry list for Roland Garros was published April 18th, so about a month before the start of qualifying. So acceptances were based on the ranking at that time. It's not like the organizers wait another few weeks, and then for some reason use rankings from a month ago, it's that they've already published the list so that players can arrange to make it to RG for qualifying (or not).

Ideally, tournament organizers would reserve 1-2 wildcards for stuff like this, if someone suddenly goes on a tear and is clearly way better than their ranking. But yes, if somebody starts winning everything in sight, right after the cutoff date, they could have play qualies even though they're highly ranked.

It is not common for someone outside the top 100 to suddenly go on a win streak and win two straight Masters events.

 

[NAS]

There already is a list of alternate players for both the main and qualifying draw should there be forfeits in the draw. That's how Thiem or Fognini got in despite initially being scheduled to play the qualifiers. EDIT: Organizers also have wildcards to avoid such things, but they're completely discretionary as Thiem found out despite being a multiple time Sunday plate holder at Paris.

Roland Garros ATP Entry List and Seeds

ATP Tennis Entry Lists and seeds

www.dartsrankings.com

IIRC I recall Monfils saying in a VLOG that you need to register for tournaments at least six weeks in advance. For a player having injury setbacks, that means they'll just register for any tournament they're interested in and throw the towel at the last minute if necessary. Dunno if it's an ATP-only rule or if slams also have the same rule, because it sure looks like it : that would put the cutoff date for the RG qualifying draw around April 10th, while Madrid's main draw started on April 25th. Nevermind that the two-week Masters were hot garbage anyway in terms of scheduling (compounded by Rome's numerous rain delays), and the powers that'd be are planning to play more of them next year.

I know about WC but all nation don't know what policy use for WC.
Aslan should have been given WC this year.

 

[tennis3]

I know about WC but all nation don't know what policy use for WC.
Aslan should have been given WC this year.

Is he French?

Is he American or Australian (and have that reciprocal agreement)?

You think the French Federation is going to give a Wildcard to a Russian?

 

[NAS]

Is he French?

Is he American or Australian (and have that reciprocal agreement)?

You think the French Federation is going to give a Wildcard to a Russian?

I was think French tennis federation will do right thing and give world no62 a chance to play slam directly but clearly I was wrong

 

[tennis3]

I was think French tennis federation will do right thing and give world no62 a chance to play slam directly but clearly I was wrong

Why would they? Who's coming to see him and buying tickets to see him play?

Nobody. Not one single person is buying a ticket to see Aslan Karatsav play tennis. And they won't lose one sale if he isn't in the draw.

Wildcards go to French Players. Or wildly popular players like Murray the past few years. Not Aslan Karatsav. Nobody outside of this forum knows who he is. Or cares.