Klatu Verata Necktie
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You're right. It's easy to get carried away. My apologies.
Attention 90 square club-why?
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You're right. It's easy to get carried away. My apologies.
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Yes, because "best" is a subjective opinion. Many people may think a Prius or a Corolla is the "best" car in the world for any price, just like some people may think a $70 racquet is the best racquet in the world at any price.
What about this:
keithchircop
Professional
Enough already about cars.
armand
Banned
This board, although maintained by an American company, still has a very international participation. Please convert and use km/h then many of us won't be so lost. Thank you!
Why? Approximating the sweetspot by a circle, a bigger sweetspot would be a bigger circle. If the center of this circle is lower than the center of a smaller circle, the bigger circle could still reach up to the top of the smaller circle.
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Because the "sweetspot" is really just a point, and this "point" (which is the middle of the so-called "sweetspot) is higher on a 90 than a 120 (assuming both racquets are 27" in length)
:mrgreen: You noticed this too huh?
VGP
Legend
FWIW, I was watching TTC and saw Clint Bowles win the US Claycourt Boy's 18s using the Wilson k90.......
keithchircop
Professional
I think I just saw a thread about 3.0 using a K6.1. Let me go take care of that.
But the higher sweetspot concept is interesting. Still not too convinced about it because recreational players are not good at hitting the sweetspot anyways.
anirut
Legend
Are you seriously serious to have said that? C'mon, at least set a playing level of recreational players, not such a wide statement.
You are excepted from that remark of course ....
But seriously, how many rec players have you seen with the "thump" sound off their racquets? If they cannot hit the sweetspot even when the ball is close to them, what is the chance they will hit a tiny but higher sweetspot on the run, which is the assumption of a greater reach? As far as serves go, same thing - inconsistent toss and not finding the sweetspot. So it is more likely that instead of more reach, the player will mishit and feel a jarring shock. Now 5.0 onwards, it is a different story.
anirut
Legend
No, I'm not a 5.0. I'm probably only a Pi --> 3.14159
At least you have the endurance to continue infinitely
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
You sound like you're describing a sub-3.0 level player, and not most players above the 3.5 level. I'm a recreational player and I'm not near a 5.0 and I do hear a "thump" just about everytime I hit the ball.
You sound like you're describing a sub-3.0 level player, and not most players above the 3.5 level. I'm a recreational player and I'm not near a 5.0 and I do hear a "thump" just about everytime I hit the ball.
I have seen innumerable 4.0s play, and the sound is not even close to even the somewhat advanced juniors, specially on the backhand.
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Were these 4.0's using granny sticks? And some "4.0's" hit the ball more solidly than other "4.0's". A guy that drops shots and lobs all day long because they have no real forehand nor backhand nor volleys can be a "4.0" because they win by driving their opponents insane.
bluegrasser
Hall of Fame
It amazes me how the *mid thread* creates such a stir, but I can understand it. The most enjoyable hit I had with a racquet this summer was the Kfed 90, I was blown away by the feel, control & how you could hit an instant winner with any short ball, he$l, I was in love.
Then reality set in when I played doubs indoors on a hot day and my arm felt so daM% fatigued that I couldn't hit a ball except my serve. The weight of the stick took it's toll. I'm past my prime ( age/condition factor) but dam% it all, I wish like hel$ that the K90 would of worked, as a matter of fact, i think I'll take it out for a demo, no ! whor$dom again...
Then reality set in when I played doubs indoors on a hot day and my arm felt so daM% fatigued that I couldn't hit a ball except my serve. The weight of the stick took it's toll. I'm past my prime ( age/condition factor) but dam% it all, I wish like hel$ that the K90 would of worked, as a matter of fact, i think I'll take it out for a demo, no ! whor$dom again...
You need to let others hear the sound and comment as you may be biased or not paying attention.
So what level to do you play? In high school I assume. What kind of tournaments do you play and what do your results look like?
Shashwat
Semi-Pro
A pro (teaching pro at the club i go to) said i was a solid 4.5 but i think i'm a 4.0 cause i have been owned pretty bad by top 10 (16/18)players in texas and my game sometimes falls apart during matches. My results are pretty good, more wins than losses. Our school is pretty strong, but 5th in our district because our district is just that great. Top 2 teams have about 2 or 3 superchamps and the rest are champs. I haven't really played any USTA tournaments this year.
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
I post this NOT to be argumentative, but I don't think the 'THWACK' or 'THUD' is NECESSARILY heard EVERYtime a good player strikes the ball. My sound varies quite a bit by virtue of my efforts to impart different spins, vary the pace, height over the net, etc. Despite this fact many shots hit without a 'THWACK' prove very effective. CC
My sound varies quite a bit by virtue of my efforts to impart different spins, vary the pace, height over the net, etc. Despite this fact many shots hit without a 'THWACK' prove very effective. CC
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
The "thump" sound also comes more likely when using a solid, heavy racquet. You're less likely to hear that "thump" sound if you're using a lightweight, tinny granny stick.
But something more hollow will amplify sound more than something that's more solid. Just think about an electric vs an acoustic guitar.
Well it's more complicated than just that. Aside from decibel level, there's pitch and tone. Different racquets, strings and balls all affect the sound differently. Topspin sounds more like a 'brush', whereas flat hit sounds more like a 'thump'.
Anyways, I don't believe anyones ear is sharp enough to tell the difference between 3 - 4 - 5 levels by just the sound.
Besides you don't have to hit the exact center of the sweetspot on every shot. You can win a point with a slice, drop shot, volley, etc.. And who says that levels below a 5.0 cannot hit the sweetspot? I'm pretty sure most people here below a 5.0 can hit the sweetspot. I call BS on sureshs.
Well it's more complicated than just that. Aside from decibel level, there's pitch and tone. Different racquets, strings and balls all affect the sound differently. Topspin sounds more like a 'brush', whereas flat hit sounds more like a 'thump'.
Anyways, I don't believe anyones ear is sharp enough to tell the difference between 3 - 4 - 5 levels by just the sound.
Besides you don't have to hit the exact center of the sweetspot on every shot. You can win a point with a slice, drop shot, volley, etc.. And who says that levels below a 5.0 cannot hit the sweetspot? I'm pretty sure most people here below a 5.0 can hit the sweetspot. I call BS on sureshs.
Klatu Verata Necktie
Hall of Fame
I agree that there seem to be many factors that influence the sound that a racquet makes when it comes it strikes a ball. One of those factors has to be string tension. I got a chance to hit today with jmverdugo and drakulie today, I I've got to say that drakulie's mid+ Trisys strung at 70 lbs sounded like an exploding bomb!
I was also a bit surprised to find that 70 lbs was quite tolerable in that racquet.
Shashwat
Semi-Pro
I agree with that, i rarely heard that sound with my FXP radical. I hear it almost every shot with my K95. And it really depends on the shot too, if you hit a normal groundstroke, you will hear it, if you put different spins or hit a different shot, you won't.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah, I agree about the different factors that could influence the sound of the ball meeting the strings.
Damn, did it really sound that loud?? I guess when you are behind it, you can't really tell. By the way, go into the "Long Live the Radicals" thread and post your thoughts on the trisys.
Yeah, it just shows that you can't make blanket statements without experiencing first hand. I would be guilty of thinking that such high tensions would be unplayable but it depends on the racquet
Klatu Verata Necktie
Hall of Fame
The sound was also amplified by the low ambient noise. It was loud. I was able to notice it when I was sitting on the sidelines watching you hit with jmverdugo. Both you were producing some macho sounds on your racquets.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
^^Same when you hit the ball. That full poly job makes a nice sound. Or is it the frame perhaps??? HMmmmmm. You seemed to really be enjoying the results of the Head Prestige Tour. Congrats on the purchase.
Now if you would only let me win a few points we could both be happy K90 users.
Now if you would only let me win a few points we could both be happy K90 users.
Klatu Verata Necktie
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