Babolat Pure Aero 2019

[prjacobs]

then my friend, either it varies from rackets or you need to adjust your style. for me it can play one inch above net if i have to.

true there is less power. i dont know why TW diagram shows more power all around.

I'm still loving my 2013 APD and also find that I can hit very flat with it or take advantage of the spin potential and hit loopy shots with lots of safety. To me, that's a big plus and kind of the point of using that frame. I didn't gel with the older PA and I'm hoping that the new one is a bit more like the 2013 APD, as Chris has said.

 

[datsveryinterestin]

The PA19 I'm demoing feels like 333SW and almost even balance. Heaviest racquet to swing ..harder than a Pure Drive Plus with lead at 12.
But, if you can adapt and swing it fast enough it hits a very nice ball. I like it but found myself late on multiple forehands due to the hefty SW. It was strung with addiction so I'm going to try it with ALU. I wouldn't add lead to this one unlike every other babolat I've used!
Feels, in a good way, like a Rafa pro stock (I know what racquet he actually uses). But it also feels like that in a bad way if you are not amped to swing bolo whip style and grunt loudly and pick the wedgie every point!!
I enjoyed my brief hit with it but will need to spend more time with poly strings.

....to be updated

 

[Nostradamus]

The PA19 I'm demoing feels like 333SW and almost even balance. Heaviest racquet to swing ..harder than a Pure Drive Plus with lead at 12.
But, if you can adapt and swing it fast enough it hits a very nice ball. I like it but found myself late on multiple forehands due to the hefty SW. It was strung with addiction so I'm going to try it with ALU. I wouldn't add lead to this one unlike every other babolat I've used!
Feels, in a good way, like a Rafa pro stock (I know what racquet he actually uses). But it also feels like that in a bad way if you are not amped to swing bolo whip style and grunt loudly and pick the wedgie every point!!
I enjoyed my brief hit with it but will need to spend more time with poly strings.

....to be updated

you mean compared to pure drive plus 2017 ?? the latest version ? that racket was pretty easy to swing compared to previous pure drives. I was hoping new pure aero 2019 would be similar to that one.

 

[datsveryinterestin]

you mean compared to pure drive plus 2017 ?? the latest version ? that racket was pretty easy to swing compared to previous pure drives. I was hoping new pure aero 2019 would be similar to that one.

Yes newest pure drive plus ..but even with lead at 12 it swings easier than new Pure Aero. New Aero is b.e.e.f.y.!

 

[Rafaboy]

I'm still loving my 2013 APD and also find that I can hit very flat with it or take advantage of the spin potential and hit loopy shots with lots of safety. To me, that's a big plus and kind of the point of using that frame. I didn't gel with the older PA and I'm hoping that the new one is a bit more like the 2013 APD, as Chris has said.

i would havr to say no, not like the 2013, i had 2 of them. it seems 2013 and 2016 frames became a bit more bulky or boxey. which is not a bad thing if it suits you.

the new frame feel more streamlined and easy to manuver compared. its definately a new design, but you dont have to adjust much or change your style. it just plays right

 

[Rafaboy]

The PA19 I'm demoing feels like 333SW and almost even balance. Heaviest racquet to swing ..harder than a Pure Drive Plus with lead at 12.
But, if you can adapt and swing it fast enough it hits a very nice ball. I like it but found myself late on multiple forehands due to the hefty SW. It was strung with addiction so I'm going to try it with ALU. I wouldn't add lead to this one unlike every other babolat I've used!
Feels, in a good way, like a Rafa pro stock (I know what racquet he actually uses). But it also feels like that in a bad way if you are not amped to swing bolo whip style and grunt loudly and pick the wedgie every point!!
I enjoyed my brief hit with it but will need to spend more time with poly strings.

....to be updated

mine doesnt feel that way at all. it feels quick.
a lot has to do with string gauge, racket selection before buying, q control, handle size.

dont rule it out yet, demo different ones

 

[Rafaboy]

Yes newest pure drive plus ..but even with lead at 12 it swings easier than new Pure Aero. New Aero is b.e.e.f.y.!

no, 2019 is more sleek and agile. from that last decription, tells me that you have never tried the 2019, or someone gave you the wrong racket.

 

[Rafaboy]

.... or Q/C is so vast, selection is critical.

 

[prjacobs]

i would havr to say no, not like the 2013, i had 2 of them. it seems 2013 and 2016 frames became a bit more bulky or boxey. which is not a bad thing if it suits you.

the new frame feel more streamlined and easy to manuver compared. its definately a new design, but you dont have to adjust much or change your style. it just plays right

I’m looking forward to trying the new one out. The 2016 PA was, (for me of course [emoji4]), far less maneuverable then the 2013 APD, with (again for me) far less control. My APDs are tail weighted. 11.7 ounces, 6pts HL. No way I’d get one unless I knew the specs in advance. Totally worth the extra money.


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[Rafaboy]

i used to like 6 pts head lt, but i can go with something in that ball park. there are ways to lighten up the HW, but maybe wont need to. (lighter strings, bumper reduction, etc)

in the store, it seemed just a tad on the heavy side. i had my doubts. but once on court, it feels on the lighter side.

again, racket selection is crucial, due to Q/C.

some say string spacing is same as 2016, but doesnt feel that way, improved control is noticeable. drive volleys proved this.

the feeling is, somwhere within this racket, is a players racket also

vamos! go for it!

 

[Nostradamus]

Yes newest pure drive plus ..but even with lead at 12 it swings easier than new Pure Aero. New Aero is b.e.e.f.y.!

yea but I am hoping the pure Aero Plus 2019 would have Swing weight of 323. That would be perfect. I really don't care about the standard length one

 

[JonnyAbs]

The PA19 I'm demoing feels like 333SW and almost even balance. Heaviest racquet to swing ..harder than a Pure Drive Plus with lead at 12.
But, if you can adapt and swing it fast enough it hits a very nice ball. I like it but found myself late on multiple forehands due to the hefty SW. It was strung with addiction so I'm going to try it with ALU. I wouldn't add lead to this one unlike every other babolat I've used!
Feels, in a good way, like a Rafa pro stock (I know what racquet he actually uses). But it also feels like that in a bad way if you are not amped to swing bolo whip style and grunt loudly and pick the wedgie every point!!
I enjoyed my brief hit with it but will need to spend more time with poly strings.

....to be updated

Did you ever use the 2016? To me they swing about the same. A little slower than 2013, but because they produce more power, I feel like you don't have to use more energy to produce the same shot. So its kind of a wash, plus the 2019 will deal with pace better than the 2013.

I used it in a match this weekend and did well. Beat a guy 6-3 that I normally beat in a close set. I didn't lose a ton of balls long and I was hitting some nice winners and passing shots. Also a bunch of touch lobs. He is a serve and volleyer, which explains the opportunities.

The demo is strung with Bab Addiction 16, and I will probably buy one and get it strung with Cyclone 16 or something like that. In the 2013 and in my 2015 PD, I prefer 17 gauge, but with this since it is so open, I will try 16 first.

 

[JonnyAbs]

there are ways to lighten up the HW, but maybe wont need to. (lighter strings, bumper reduction, etc)

in the store, it seemed just a tad on the heavy side. i had my doubts. but once on court, it feels on the lighter side.

some say string spacing is same as 2016, but doesnt feel that way, improved control is noticeable. drive volleys proved this.

What strings and gauge are you using? 17 would lighten it up a little in the head, but I am thinking that this string bed might need 16.

 

[datsveryinterestin]

Did you ever use the 2016? To me they swing about the same. A little slower than 2013, but because they produce more power, I feel like you don't have to use more energy to produce the same shot. So its kind of a wash, plus the 2019 will deal with pace better than the 2013.

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The demo is strung with Bab Addiction 16, ...

Yes I've used the APD, just finished demoing the Decima, used the Pure Aero plus for over a year, and now trying PA19.
PA19 demo still swings heavy for me stock. Good news is I wouldn't need to customize the PA19 because it's beefy and hits a nice heavy ball. But if other PA19 are like my demo I feel it will swing to slowly for many people.
My demo is also strung with addiction ... Going to restring with poly today.

 

[Rafaboy]

Yes I've used the APD, just finished demoing the Decima, used the Pure Aero plus for over a year, and now trying PA19.
PA19 demo still swings heavy for me stock. Good news is I wouldn't need to customize the PA19 because it's beefy and hits a nice heavy ball. But if other PA19 are like my demo I feel it will swing to slowly for many people.
My demo is also strung with addiction ... Going to restring with poly today.

again, no.
my 2019 swings fast and lite. choose one to your liking, they aren't all the same.

beware if you like the demo, you may get one totally different when buying one.

 

[Rafaboy]

What strings and gauge are you using? 17 would lighten it up a little in the head, but I am thinking that this string bed might need 16.

cyclone 17@56.
i tried rpm blast 16@55 gave more solid hit, but felt about 4 grams too heavy. too much swing effort.

 

[roger presley]

Same as always,someone comes to promote a new racquet from somewhere. Same thing happened with Wilson Ultra ( like it's the real H19) and now again with Pure Aero. Anyone interested in this racquet,should go ahead and try to play with it, then decide is it good,better or worse than the last one.

 

[Rafaboy]

Same as always,someone comes to promote a new racquet from somewhere. Same thing happened with Wilson Ultra ( like it's the real H19) and now again with Pure Aero. Anyone interested in this racquet,should go ahead and try to play with it, then decide is it good,better or worse than the last one.

who is it that you are saying comes to promote? i am giving feedback to anyone interested. i have used aero line since 2010 model.

if it works for you, as it does for me, then im glad. if you dont want to buy it, then i dont care.

 

[datsveryinterestin]

My serve needs the Aero+ version... How long til it comes out? Sigh

Eagerly awaiting other reports.

 

[octobrina10]

 

[BHud]

Just got mine! The yellow color is actually really nice...kind of a pearloid glow to it that you can't see in pics.

 

[Rafaboy]

Just got mine! The yellow color is actually really nice...kind of a pearloid glow to it that you can't see in pics.

yes, i think so. just enuff bling to compensate its understatement.

please let us know how it plays for you. interested to compare notes.

 

[Nostradamus]

Just got mine! The yellow color is actually really nice...kind of a pearloid glow to it that you can't see in pics.

I want to know how it plays in super fast net exchanges

 

[drillersmethod]

I had the chance to hit with the 2019 Pure Aero today strung with RPM Blast Rough. Compared to the 2016 Pure Aero Plus that I have been using the past 2 years, the new one has similar power and spin but control is substantially better than the 2016. Was able to hit out on groundstrokes without worry of hitting the ball long. Directional control is great too, easy to hit angles especially with how much spin the racket produces. Feel is much improved as well, does not have the pinging sound the 2016 had and feels more solid on impact. Can't comment on maneuverability since mine was the plus length and leaded up.

 

[Rafaboy]

I want to know how it plays in super fast net exchanges

its quicker than the 2016, not as bulky, less airy.
a bit more compact feeling.

irony is, i thought it felt a bit light, so i put them on the scale.

turns out its heavier than my two decima.

decima 1= 318
decima 2= 322
PA 2019= 324

 

[Nostradamus]

its quicker than the 2016, not as bulky, less airy.
a bit more compact feeling.

irony is, i thought it felt a bit light, so i put them on the scale.

turns out its heavier than my two decima.

decima 1= 318
decima 2= 322
PA 2019= 324

how is that possible ?? I was twist weight is high and swing weight is also moderately high so it would be slow at net exchages ?? and what is Decima racket ? is that same as PA 2016?

 

[Rafaboy]

how is that possible ?? I was twist weight is high and swing weight is also moderately high so it would be slow at net exchages ?? and what is Decima racket ? is that same as PA 2016?

decima is 2016 PA , different graphics.
what is even more confusing, my friends at the shop told me they selected the lightest one from the batch that came in.

but it doesnt feel slower at net or baseline. it feel more nimble, less bulky.

i can only think that maybe mass distribution within the racket causes this, because cortex is at 9/3?

 

[tennisBIEST]

Saw it in person today....Really don’t like the color!

 

[hurworld]

decima is 2016 PA , different graphics.
what is even more confusing, my friends at the shop told me they selected the lightest one from the batch that came in.

but it doesnt feel slower at net or baseline. it feel more nimble, less bulky.

i can only think that maybe mass distribution within the racket causes this, because cortex is at 9/3?

All 3 racquets have identical string jobs and grips?

 

[Nostradamus]

decima is 2016 PA , different graphics.
what is even more confusing, my friends at the shop told me they selected the lightest one from the batch that came in.

but it doesnt feel slower at net or baseline. it feel more nimble, less bulky.

i can only think that maybe mass distribution within the racket causes this, because cortex is at 9/3?

So Decima is basically same racket as PA 2016 just different color. very confusing since 2019 PA has high twist weight as stated by posters above. and high twist weight translate to poor manuverablility at net per those people

 

[Rafaboy]

So Decima is basically same racket as PA 2016 just different color. very confusing since 2019 PA has high twist weight as stated by posters above. and high twist weight translate to poor manuverablility at net per those people

have they ever considered twist reaction time?
you can have a lighter twist weight, but if frame is flexible, then you can twist the handle, but the head is delayed in time for the frame to flex in torque factor.

another racket may have higher twist weight, but if its more rigid, then entire frame can react as a complete unit, and not have delay in reaction, as a more flexing frame.

if a golf club has lighter shaft, it takes a longer time for the head to catch up to the handle position on contact, despite lighter twist weight than the one with heavier shaft.

so although the desire is low twist weight, you end up with the club head lagging too far behind the grip position on contact, if you can picture the illustration.

therefore, the right combination of head weight, shaft rigidity, shaft material, face angle, all must be taken to consideration to taylor the individuals playing strength and style.

Oscar says everyone ideal swing in tennis, is different for each individual, although form may be taught the same stroke.

so, you see, you cannot just take one factor alone, such as twist weight, and conclude that the result on this alone, will be the totality of the outcome.

 

[BHud]

And thank goodness they re-engineered the grommets! No more short side, and the strings seat nicely.

 

[RafaBabolat]

Currently on the 2016 PA, and have to say I've had trouble going away from it. I love the serve and spin, but its always lacking the control. Whenever I use another racquet tho like the current PD, I don't get the same depth. This iteration looks like a good option, is it worth it to buy?

 

[Stefanm]

And thank goodness they re-engineered the grommets! No more short side, and the strings seat nicely.

That was a pleasant surprise when I strung mine up today

 

[Rafaboy]

Currently on the 2016 PA, and have to say I've had trouble going away from it. I love the serve and spin, but its always lacking the control. Whenever I use another racquet tho like the current PD, I don't get the same depth. This iteration looks like a good option, is it worth it to buy?

it does have more control, but overall feel a bit different from 2016, but similar.

ive own my 2019 and still trying to figure out which is best for me.

one thing i do notice about feel, 2016 feels more lively than 2019, a bit more solid but a tad muted compared.

 

[Moveforwardalways]

Played the PA19 today. There is no way it has a 333SW. Not even close. It’s a very light racquet, whippy and head light. It is definitely noticeably less powerful than the 2016 PA and less stiff. Much more comfortable though. High launch angle and huge sweet spot as usual. And tons of spin, as you would expect. You’ll have no problem hitting massive spin. While the high launch angle can mimic power, if you are looking for actual power, you’ll need to supply it on your own. It is not like the previous PA or APDs with regard to power. It is stable though and has a high twist weight, if that matters to you.

 

[Nostradamus]

Played the PA19 today. There is no way it has a 333SW. Not even close. It’s a very light racquet, whippy and head light. It is definitely noticeably less powerful than the 2016 PA and less stiff. Much more comfortable though. High launch angle and huge sweet spot as usual. And tons of spin, as you would expect. You’ll have no problem hitting massive spin. While the high launch angle can mimic power, if you are looking for actual power, you’ll need to supply it on your own. It is not like the previous PA or APDs with regard to power. It is stable though and has a high twist weight, if that matters to you.

Are you talking about PA 2019 Plus ? because the stardard length racket has swing weight of 324 according to TW website

 

[datsveryinterestin]

I think 333sw was referring to my post about my demo. It did swing sluggish for me but maybe I was wrong. I played doubles with it tonight and it was amazing. Muted but for a thick Babolat it volleyed like an extension of my hand with actual FEEL and touch!!!
I miss the pop and especially spin from the Aero+ on 2nd serves... But it played so well I want to tinker with weight and balance to see if I can make the new Aero work for me.
VAMOS!!!

 

[Rafaboy]

I think 333sw was referring to my post about my demo. It did swing sluggish for me but maybe I was wrong. I played doubles with it tonight and it was amazing. Muted but for a thick Babolat it volleyed like an extension of my hand with actual FEEL and touch!!!
I miss the pop and especially spin from the Aero+ on 2nd serves... But it played so well I want to tinker with weight and balance to see if I can make the new Aero work for me.
VAMOS!!!

VAMOS! yes, now the customization starts for me also.picked up my second 2019, and noticeably heavier than my first one. get it right, or get home thank you!

 

[Moveforwardalways]

Are you talking about PA 2019 Plus ? because the stardard length racket has swing weight of 324 according to TW website

Standard length. A poster above estimated the SW to be 333, and that was not my experience at all.

 

[bigdaddy]

Picked up a 2019 PA demo a few minutes ago. My local shop got the demos strung. Looks like rpm blast 16 in mains, orgin in crosses. Gonna give it a try tonight. I’ll review tomorrow.

 

[naturallight]

How does the comfort of the PA 2019 compare to the APD 2013? Noticeable improvement?

 

[J B]

Too many people think the racquet is the reason for the problems. Its not, its your string and tensions. Ever notice the top skilled players rarely switch racquets and still generate the spin and control they want?

 

[Jazzguitarman]

I posted my review of the PA 2019 in the Babolat Users Group on Facebook. Plus posted a really cool pic of a new color for the 2018 Pure Drive. Come check it out.

 

[Rafaboy]

I posted my review of the PA 2019 in the Babolat Users Group on Facebook. Plus posted a really cool pic of a new color for the 2018 Pure Drive. Come check it out.

post it on here. facebook is passe.

 

[Nostradamus]

Standard length. A poster above estimated the SW to be 333, and that was not my experience at all.

yea, it is supposed to be like 320 SW. and it is supposed to be easy to volley with. anyway, do you think they will keep the extended plus version under 330 in swing weight ?

 

[bigdaddy]

Picked up a 2019 PA demo a few minutes ago. My local shop got the demos strung. Looks like rpm blast 16 in mains, orgin in crosses. Gonna give it a try tonight. I’ll review tomorrow.

Played with the new pure aero 19 tonight. Won my match. Groundstroked great 9/10.. spin was great on all shot. Racquet had plenty of power. Quick exchanges at the net were 8/10.. no problem with getting the racquet into position at the net or baseline. Serving didn’t seem to have as much ball speed as my current pure aero tour but only lost serve once in three sets. I placed the ball well and was spinning it great. 9/10 on serves I would say. Top spin lobs were great. Felt like the ball was going long and it would come down. Hit several good short angles and drop shots. Touch was 7/10.. racquet felt stable but not as stable as my tour. Just the first time playing with it and the racquet passed with flying colors. Scheduled to play again Saturday morning. Then will have to decide to purchase or wait for the tour. I do like the feel of the new racquet better.

 

[Nostradamus]

Played with the new pure aero 19 tonight. Won my match. Groundstroked great 9/10.. spin was great on all shot. Racquet had plenty of power. Quick exchanges at the net were 8/10.. no problem with getting the racquet into position at the net or baseline. Serving didn’t seem to have as much ball speed as my current pure aero tour but only lost serve once in three sets. I placed the ball well and was spinning it great. 9/10 on serves I would say. Top spin lobs were great. Felt like the ball was going long and it would come down. Hit several good short angles and drop shots. Touch was 7/10.. racquet felt stable but not as stable as my tour. Just the first time playing with it and the racquet passed with flying colors. Scheduled to play again Saturday morning. Then will have to decide to purchase or wait for the tour. I do like the feel of the new racquet better.

what about double volleying and serve and volleying ?

 

[Rafaboy]

what about double volleying and serve and volleying ?

u r 2 silly

 

[bigdaddy]

what about double volleying and serve and volleying ?

what about double volleying and serve and volleying ?

Volleying was great. Especially on quick exchanged. Touch volley was good also. I have to say 7 to 8/10 on volleys.