Boojay's Long Groundstrokes Video [4.5?]

boojay

Hall of Fame

Ok, it's quite a long vid so I don't expect everyone to watch all of it, but there should be plenty of footage in there for people to gauge about where my groundstrokes are at now.

My form was starting to break down near the end due to muscle fatigue (you'll see why) after 2 straight hours of continuous hitting. Crappy part is I couldn't capture some of the best rallies as my memory card filled up (we had an epic 60+ stroke rally, all shots were in and the pace was much faster). Obviously, I'm just rallying, so there were no aggressive shots (i.e. flat shots, approach shots, etc.)

Enjoy! :D
 

cstephenson

New User

Ok, it's quite a long vid so I don't expect everyone to watch all of it, but there should be plenty of footage in there for people to gauge about where my groundstrokes are at now.

My form was starting to break down near the end due to muscle fatigue (you'll see why) after 2 straight hours of continuous hitting. Crappy part is I couldn't capture some of the best rallies as my memory card filled up (we had an epic 60+ stroke rally, all shots were in and the pace was much faster). Obviously, I'm just rallying, so there were no aggressive shots (i.e. flat shots, approach shots, etc.)

Enjoy! :D

Hi Boojay,

The best way to capture yourself playing is to place the camera behind you on top of the fence. However I liked that even though you closed your stance on many of your forehands you still allowed yourself to rotate your torso while hitting the shot. Meaning you didn't let yourself get in the way of yourself. All shots are divine but the ones where you let yourself achieve maximum potential are truly spiritual. Boojay in the House!!!!! Whoop Whoop.

Clint
 

boojay

Hall of Fame
Hi Boojay,

The best way to capture yourself playing is to place the camera behind you on top of the fence. However I liked that even though you closed your stance on many of your forehands you still allowed yourself to rotate your torso while hitting the shot. Meaning you didn't let yourself get in the way of yourself. All shots are divine but the ones where you let yourself achieve maximum potential are truly spiritual. Boojay in the House!!!!! Whoop Whoop.

Clint

Thanks Clint!! Duly noted, I'll figure out a way to do that, but if I break my new camera you're buying me a new one right? Yeeeeah.....

:p
 

noobplayer

Semi-Pro
your backhand needs some improvement, looks like u pushing it back only, and i dont think ure 4.5, more like average 4.0 or strong 3.5s ince no serve, decent backhand, no volley or service video, judging only by ur forehand maybe 4.5, oh ya wat balls u using? r they new? or old?
 

boojay

Hall of Fame
Uh huh, try again guys. I'll wait for comments from people who actually know how to play tennis. Have a nice day anyway.
 

DarrenT

New User
Wow, you guys are tough to please. I don't think I've ever seen a 3.5 player with that kind of consistency short of someone that just blocks everything back.

I would say he has very solid and consistent groundstrokes. Going off of the NTRP descriptions alone I would say 4.0 minimum and closer to the 4.5 area. Anyway, that's all I really have to contribute. I liked that little backhand 360 move you did at around 5:24. :D

If you could get a video of a couple games that'd be awesome.

Keep up the good work.
 

boojay

Hall of Fame
Wow, you guys are tough to please. I don't think I've ever seen a 3.5 player with that kind of consistency short of someone that just blocks everything back.

I would say he has very solid and consistent groundstrokes. Going off of the NTRP descriptions alone I would say 4.0 minimum and closer to the 4.5 area. Anyway, that's all I really have to contribute. I liked that little backhand 360 move you did at around 5:24. :D

If you could get a video of a couple games that'd be awesome.

Keep up the good work.

Thanks Darren :D

I'll definitely get some game points in as I move much better in a match situation and play much more aggressively. Clint mentioned max potential, but I never even came close to that actually. I need to get pumped up and play in a serious match in order to achieve that.

If you liked the 360, wait til you see my reverse 360 behind-the-back airborne smash I came up with. I have never seen anyone else do it and I've been wondering what it looks like. Stay tuned.........
 

Zets147

Banned
Hey, I really like the consistency. And also I got a question if you don't mind me asking.

Did you recently switch to a one-hander or were you always a one-hander?
I thought I read somewhere you were making the switch from 2hander.
 

boojay

Hall of Fame
Hey, I really like the consistency. And also I got a question if you don't mind me asking.

Did you recently switch to a one-hander or were you always a one-hander?
I thought I read somewhere you were making the switch from 2hander.

Thanks :D.

And to answer your question, how's this? I have absolutely NO CLUE how to hit a 2-hander. Like, no clue, at all. You would cry if you saw me attempt a two-handed backhand. Good enough? ;)

However, I only started hitting topspin backhands less than a year ago. I used to slice a lot, but now 90% of my backhands are topspin.
 

RoddickistheMan

Professional
I like how you hold your stroke until the ball bounces. That is truly what 4.0s or a 3.5 will do that 3.0s rarely do. It slows down the game which is key. Sometimes you are a little bit late on your groundies but that can be do to bad height on the feeds. Lets see some serves BOOJAY!!!!
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njjohan

Rookie
I like how you hold your stroke until the ball bounces. That is truly what 4.0s or a 3.5 will do that 3.0s rarely do. It slows down the game which is key. Sometimes you are a little bit late on your groundies but that can be do to bad height on the feeds. Lets see some serves BOOJAY!!!!

Isn't that known as a follow-through???
 

dacrymn

Professional
If you liked the 360, wait til you see my reverse 360 behind-the-back airborne smash I came up with. I have never seen anyone else do it and I've been wondering what it looks like. Stay tuned.........

o.0 I'm having trouble imagining what that looks like. I really wanna see.

I'll rate you a 4.0+. Why? because everything after 4.0 stops being about strokes and about match skill and mental thought. Thus, I cannot say anything about the level after that, but your strokes are definitely at least 4.0. I'm sure you're actually better though.

I like the fluid swings and the closed stance. Too many people have open stances now, and you pull the closed one off well. None of your shots look forced or muscles. It just kinda moves through smoothly. Nice.
 

luckyfool

New User

Ok, it's quite a long vid so I don't expect everyone to watch all of it, but there should be plenty of footage in there for people to gauge about where my groundstrokes are at now.

My form was starting to break down near the end due to muscle fatigue (you'll see why) after 2 straight hours of continuous hitting. Crappy part is I couldn't capture some of the best rallies as my memory card filled up (we had an epic 60+ stroke rally, all shots were in and the pace was much faster). Obviously, I'm just rallying, so there were no aggressive shots (i.e. flat shots, approach shots, etc.)

Enjoy! :D

This is definitely a 4.0+ quality forehand. However I don't know how you'd do in a match situation (requires other techniques) but if I had to give you a rating based on your forehand alone, it's a 4.0. A little shaky in the backhand side.
 

chipsbuzz

New User
WOoohHhooooo.

Just wondering... was the cheering section for you or for some other people in the next court? Haha, nice touch either ways.

I actually think I like your backhand over your forehand, just cuz it looks way smooth.

I'm not much of a rater....but I really enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing.
 

boojay

Hall of Fame
I like how you hold your stroke until the ball bounces. That is truly what 4.0s or a 3.5 will do that 3.0s rarely do. It slows down the game which is key. Sometimes you are a little bit late on your groundies but that can be do to bad height on the feeds. Lets see some serves BOOJAY!!!!

Actually, I wish I could hold it even longer! I've actually forgotten to practice that more so thanks for mentioning it. The longer you hold it, the more you can disguise your shot. It also helps with my timing as I have a rhythm/pattern going in my head when I do that.

I actually posted some serve vids last year, but I've improved so much I've decided to save that for another time. I've taken quite a bit of pace off my serve (my fastest serves before were over 110+ mph), but my spins & placement have increased tremendously.

Thanks for the comment :)

2.0 tops.

;)

Yeah, I'd give the behind cam a try, it gives a better view (imho).

WBF is right!

2.0, maybe 2.10506604 if your lucky.

;)

Yeah yeah yeah, thanks guys ;). I'm a tennis player, not a friggin' cameraman, but I'll do it for you guys.......jerks, j/k. BTW, I guess it IS pretty hard to see with YouTube's white background. For future viewers, if you FULL SCREEN the video, it makes it a little easier to see, but from now on I'll film from behind. Thanks for the responses, guys.

i still say u would be a strong 3.5 to low 4.0 but not 2.0

I like your screenname, it describes you very well.

This is a great video! Very smooth, consistent strokes. I think occasionally you let the ball drop too low. But I enjoyed watching!

Agreed, that's why I had mentioned I wasn't playing aggressively. When I rally, my only goal is to get the ball back straight to my hitting partner with a reasonable pace and good depth. I'm all about tennis etiquette so going for winners or hitting strange shots is really taboo for me. When I play in a match, I'm usually the aggressor and take the ball on the rise a lot and try to move in.

While the guy I'm hitting with is pretty darn good, if I started hitting with more pace and on the rise, our rhythm would be ruined. I'll have to hit with some 5.0+ guys again from the club to see how that would go because I'm definitely ready to take that next step I feel.
 

boojay

Hall of Fame
that forehand motion is 6.0 to me

can u describe how u feel when u hit it?

what grip do u use?

That's a difficult one as I'm not too good at descriptions. I guess when I'm playing in a match and going for angled shots and winners that hit precisely where I want them to go, it's a very out-of-body experience, but if I were to somehow describe it physically, it almost feels like the racquet is an extension of my arm. That is, I can feel the ball cupping in the strings and then I launch the ball from the string bed, but I can feel almost every moment of it. I dunno, could be cuz I've been stringing at 47-48 lbs lately too :D. I normally do it in the 50-53 lbs range. Thanks for response!

I use an extreme eastern for forehands, but I try to practice with all other grips too, every once in a while. On the backhand side I use an eastern backhand, but also kind of a hybrid between eastern backhand and continental.
o.0 I'm having trouble imagining what that looks like. I really wanna see.

I never practice it, I just do it naturally. I really wanna see it too!! Just so you know, I've done it about 3 or 4 times and they've been winners every time simply because it catches my opponent by surprise. I've played basketball all my life so that's one of the many elements I've incorporated into tennis. It's a very instinctual maneuver so if I ever catch it on video, I'll definitely share it.

I like to be able to hit closed and open stance, but to be honest, I probably hit more open stance during a match because a lot of times I have less time to setup and by default, my footing must result in me taking my last step with my right foot, resulting in an open stance. If I were to guesstimate, in a match, I do 65% open stance-35% closed on my forehand and 95% closed-5% open on my backhand. It's good to practice open stance backhands too because you never know when you might have to hit one. I don't think I did any in the video though. Thanks!

This is definitely a 4.0+ quality forehand. However I don't know how you'd do in a match situation (requires other techniques) but if I had to give you a rating based on your forehand alone, it's a 4.0. A little shaky in the backhand side.

Heh, I play much MUCH better in a match. I crave matches now actually. I didn't play against this guy because he's in his 40s and said he just wants to hit for fun, but in some of the longer rallies I could see he was starting to wear out. I can't imagine how much faster he would tire out if I DIDN'T hit the ball to him. I figure that's one of the reasons why he came to net, so he wouldn't have to run so much and I usually had pinpoint control so I could hit it right back to him every single time.

While my forehand is more consistent than my backhand, I've made huge leaps with my backhand recently, to the point where sometimes I'll be running around my forehand (if it's off) to hit a backhand. I had mentioned this in another thread, but my backhand return has gotten a lot stronger than forehand, because people attack it so much, but in a match, I hit more service return winners off my backhand side. Thanks for the input.

WOoohHhooooo.

Just wondering... was the cheering section for you or for some other people in the next court? Haha, nice touch either ways.

I actually think I like your backhand over your forehand, just cuz it looks way smooth.

I'm not much of a rater....but I really enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing.

Yes..........

ok, no, but it's awesome you thought so ;)

Thanks for the kind words and I'm glad you enjoyed watching the vid.

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Phew!!! That was a lot of typing!! Thanks for all the responses guys!
 
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gsquicksilver

Semi-Pro
your backhand needs some improvement, looks like u pushing it back only, and i dont think ure 4.5, more like average 4.0 or strong 3.5s ince no serve, decent backhand, no volley or service video, judging only by ur forehand maybe 4.5, oh ya wat balls u using? r they new? or old?

there is no way he is a 3.5. he is at least a 4.0.
 

Bungalo Bill

G.O.A.T.







Ok, it's quite a long vid so I don't expect everyone to watch all of it, but there should be plenty of footage in there for people to gauge about where my groundstrokes are at now.

My form was starting to break down near the end due to muscle fatigue (you'll see why) after 2 straight hours of continuous hitting. Crappy part is I couldn't capture some of the best rallies as my memory card filled up (we had an epic 60+ stroke rally, all shots were in and the pace was much faster). Obviously, I'm just rallying, so there were no aggressive shots (i.e. flat shots, approach shots, etc.)

Enjoy! :D

Granted it was a relaxed paced rally, you still were able to rally consistently and keep the ball in play.

I would say you are in the 4.5 range without seeing you compete or really do anything else besides what I saw on film. Remember a 4.5 rating is:

FOREHAND: Very dependable; uses speed and spin effectively; controls depth well; tends to overhit on difficult shots; offensive on moderate shots

BACKHAND: Can control direction and depth but may break down under pressure; can hit power on moderate shots

SERVE/RETURN OF SERVE: Aggressive serving with limited double faults; uses power and spin; developing offense; on second serve frequently hits with good depth and placement; frequently hits aggressive service returns; can take pace off with moderate success in doubles

VOLLEY: Can handle a mixed sequence of volleys; good footwork; has depth and directional control on BH; developing touch; most common error is still overhitting

SPECIAL SHOTS: Approach shots hit with good depth and control; can consistently hit volleys and overheads to end the point; frequently hits aggressive service returns

PLAYING STYLE: More intentional variety in game; is hitting with more pace; covers up weaknesses well; beginning to vary game plan according to opponent; aggressive net play is common in doubles; good anticipation; beginning to handle pace

So I would say you are there.
 

RoddickistheMan

Professional
Boojay is it possible to get some footage of you in a practice match or something (we rarely see those here). See some really flat strokes and some serves would be cool.
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patrick922

Semi-Pro
yeah 4.0-4.5 ntrp sound about right. im 'officially rated at 4.0 [between 4.0-4.5] but i just recently beat a 4.5 [6-2 6-4] and i would say my strokes are pretty similar to yours.

dont listen to the guys who say you are a 3.5... they dont know what they are talking about. they keep underrating guys around here.
 

boojay

Hall of Fame
Granted it was a relaxed paced rally, you still were able to rally consistently and keep the ball in play.

I would say you are in the 4.5 range without seeing you compete or really do anything else besides what I saw on film.

Thanks for backing up your response, BB. :) A lesson so many on this board need to learn.

Actually, I haven't read that rating system in a while, but I'm starting to wonder now. My forehand doesn't break down that easily even against heavy hitters. In fact, I routinely smack back flat first serves now. I have a buddy who measured a 116+ mph on my SpeedTrak radar (his placement is horrible though as I barely have to move sometimes) and the last time we played a match, at least 3 times I cracked his first serve back for a winner. In short, he stopped hitting flats and started kicking serves that reached my eye level. So unless my opponent hit the lines, I'll often go for a winner off the first serve.

And I've already mentioned my backhand return has become stronger than my forehand return, simply because 70% or more of the serves I face go to my backhand.
 

boojay

Hall of Fame
Boojay is it possible to get some footage of you in a practice match or something (we rarely see those here). See some really flat strokes and some serves would be cool.

Yes, I'll get around to it sometime. There are some shots of mine that I have yet to see and I'm curious what they look like.

As for some flat shots, here are a couple old vids if you wanna see what it looks like when I go flat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGcDSfKqIpw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W8ZBL9plWs

yeah 4.0-4.5 ntrp sound about right. im 'officially rated at 4.0 [between 4.0-4.5] but i just recently beat a 4.5 [6-2 6-4] and i would say my strokes are pretty similar to yours.

dont listen to the guys who say you are a 3.5... they dont know what they are talking about. they keep underrating guys around here.

Yah, I started wondering myself after bageling several 4.0s over the past few weeks. I really want to play against some 5.0s now though. It's not as easy to set up as it sounds though, at least not here anyway.

Don't worry, I find it amusing that these kids who can get through the first few rounds of Virtual Tennis and think they know everything. There are even a couple whose vids I've seen (and snickered at) who are obviously below par, yet still feel the need to make a comment. Some are like that I suppose. Luckily, there are plenty of quality people as well to balance things out.
 

boojay

Hall of Fame
bungalo bill's 4.5 assessment is pretty good... he is one of the credible raters on these boards

For sure, I'll take it, but after reading the description for a 4.5, I'm seriously wondering if I'm not stronger than that even. Well, I'll just leave it at that.
 

Bungalo Bill

G.O.A.T.
bungalo bill's 4.5 assessment is pretty good... he is one of the credible raters on these boards

I guess I need to clarify my rating :oops: .

In the range of 4.5 meant that he is no higher than 4.5 but I don't think he is lower than 4.0 just by looking at this clip.

Some of the areas that stood out to me where:

1. Footwork looked a little clunky at times. I noticed this with his backhand especially and when he ran around his backhand to hit a forehand. Maybe this was because it was only practice and he was being a bit too relaxed in the mind and feet.

2. He got jammed a couple times with the onehander and the swing, racquet, etc. looked a little too loose for my liking. I think a more solid racquet head position throughout the swing would help build up the stroke. Tells me the backhand is vulnerable for an all out attack.

3. Stood a little too straight up at times. I would have him lower his BLEEP!

4. I hope he stops spinning his racquet inbetween shots. Its annoying. Unless that is the effect he is after - then spin away! :)

5. Got surprised and lunged for a couple balls (out of position, misjudged the ball)

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HELPED PUSH HIM OVER 4.0 WERE:

1. He hit a swinging volley!

2. He ran around his backhand to take charge. Shows me he is alert for this and can actually do it!

3. He was consistent.

4. His form looked good based on my brief review (obviously all of us can improve our technique).

5. He hit some good shots off the backhand wing. I could tell though it is more of a "get the ball back" stroke.

6. He kept moving his feet.

I took a brief take on the film so I don't want to get too deep into it. The rating given is if he came up to me with this film and said "RATE ME". I probably would rate him at 4.5 but would like to see him win a 4.0 tournament. Does that make sense?
 
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spc9999

New User
For sure, I'll take it, but after reading the description for a 4.5, I'm seriously wondering if I'm not stronger than that even. Well, I'll just leave it at that.

Wouldn't the way to determine that, to be playing matches? I just wonder what the motivation is for people to request feedback and then show disdain or agreement based upon whether or not a post agreed with your own assessment.

Please don't be offended, but why do you care what people think you might be off a limited video posted on a forum. Wouldn't you be better off trying to determine ratings through match play?
 

smoothtennis

Hall of Fame
Boo Jay - Nice stuff bro. It looks like you have a sound set of strokes to work with there.

Once thing I noticed that kinda grabbed out at me...and even Bill mentioned it, so I may be onto something here.

You look like you could lower yourself, and load your legs another inch on your groundies, mainly your forehand. It just appeared to me, and yes I am being picky, but whats the point of posting a vid right...it appeared to me, that your right leg staightes up a little earlier than might me optimal for lifting into the forehand. That's all I'll say. I like your forehand.

I too would rate 4.0-4.5 based on just seeing your strokes. And I would enter that in a 4.0 tournament as well. The last two tournaments I went to, the 4.5's were 'ripping' the fuzz off the ball very consistently, and the top three or four 4.0's were easily 4.5 players. They seriously were...

Good stuff, keep it coming.

Would love to see a better camera angle for sure *ducks for cover!*
 

boojay

Hall of Fame
Kinda cliched, but obviously there's always room for improvement. That's one of the reasons why I love this sport so much because there's always something to work on and the fact that I can sense I'm doing something wrong or can improve on something always gets me really excited. I'm constantly learning, constantly wanting to try out new things

1. Footwork looked a little clunky at times. I noticed this with his backhand especially and when he ran around his backhand to hit a forehand. Maybe this was because it was only practice and he was being a bit too relaxed in the mind and feet.

This is an excuse, but I was fatiguing. I was also rusty from taking a few days off. My partner was hitting nothing but volleys so I had to chase down shot after shot after shot, etc. Sometimes I run around my backhand to hit a forehand not because I have to, but just because I want to for the fun of it. I actually ran around a forehand to hit a backhand once too, but I must have cut that out of the video by accident.

3. Stood a little too straight up at times. I would have him lower his BLEEP!
That's me being lazy :D Unless I have to, I normally don't get lower as that takes effort and I'm all about taking shortcuts, j/k. But really, in a match, I get down on open stances for pretty much every stroke.

4. I hope he stops spinning his racquet inbetween shots. Its annoying. Unless that is the effect he is after - then spin away! :)
How's that annoying? I didn't even realize I did that!! Maybe it's part of my routine? ;) Aren't people always advocating having a routine? That said, I suppose it's a pretty useless ritual, isn't it? Maybe one time I'll rotate and catch the racquet incorrectly and hit an awkward shot (I probably have). I'm not saying I'll stop doing it, but I'll keep it in mind.

5. Got surprised and lunged for a couple balls (out of position, misjudged the ball)
Nobody's perfect. I got the ball back, didn't I? ;) For the most part my partner did an excellent job of getting the ball into my vicinity, but he's not perfect either. If he hits a ball that's too far out of my reach, I have to improvise or risk hitting a shot out or into the net.

1. He hit a swinging volley!
You ain't seen nothin' yet mister. Those were unintentional swing volleys. And I even do backhand swing volleys in matches when I approach the net.

2. He ran around his backhand to take charge. Shows me he is alert for this and can actually do it!
Like I said earlier, I did it just for the sake of doing it to mix things up.
5. He hit some good shots off the backhand wing. I could tell though it is more of a "get the ball back" stroke.
All my strokes were "get the ball back", we were rallying afterall. I hit ZERO aggressive shots in that video clip.

6. He kept moving his feet.
While my footwork has improved, I still think it's dreadful. I'll get better though, just by default from playing so much and against progressively better and better players who FORCE me to have better footwork, but I'll actively work on it too.

Anyway, none of my replies were meant to be defensive, I'm just putting in my two cents as well. Your input is highly appreciated and I will keep it all in mind next time I play.
 

boojay

Hall of Fame
Wouldn't the way to determine that, to be playing matches? I just wonder what the motivation is for people to request feedback and then show disdain or agreement based upon whether or not a post agreed with your own assessment.

Please don't be offended, but why do you care what people think you might be off a limited video posted on a forum. Wouldn't you be better off trying to determine ratings through match play?

I actually don't care, I play tennis for fun, but I definitely want to get better. Putting vids up is for fun as well. And I do play a lot of matches, man do I ever, I love it!! It gets my adrenaline pumping and takes my game to a whole new level. There are certain things I can't bring myself to do when rallying that I can only summon during a match. I think there are plenty of players on here who know exactly what I'm talking about.

Boo Jay - Nice stuff bro. It looks like you have a sound set of strokes to work with there.

Once thing I noticed that kinda grabbed out at me...and even Bill mentioned it, so I may be onto something here.

You look like you could lower yourself, and load your legs another inch on your groundies, mainly your forehand. It just appeared to me, and yes I am being picky, but whats the point of posting a vid right...it appeared to me, that your right leg staightes up a little earlier than might me optimal for lifting into the forehand. That's all I'll say. I like your forehand.

Good stuff, keep it coming.

Would love to see a better camera angle for sure *ducks for cover!*

Duly noted, thanks for the response. And I'll find a way to get a better angle...........somehow. Tripod?
 
i say you're more of a 4.0. you're foot work was the first thing that was off when i watch the first vid. a good way to see what level you're really at is to play against an opponent that is at the 4.0-4.5 level. almost anyone can look like a good player. it always depends on who you're playing against.
 

smoothtennis

Hall of Fame
I actually don't care, I play tennis for fun, but I definitely want to get better. Putting vids up is for fun as well. And I do play a lot of matches, man do I ever, I love it!! It gets my adrenaline pumping and takes my game to a whole new level. There are certain things I can't bring myself to do when rallying that I can only summon during a match. I think there are plenty of players on here who know exactly what I'm talking about.



Duly noted, thanks for the response. And I'll find a way to get a better angle...........somehow. Tripod?

Yep, we all get lazy, I cheif among them, LOL! I am really trying hard in practice to start loading more, and bending down myself, because the first thing to go when getting casual or lazy, is the good solid bending and coiling. If figure if I darn well force myself to do it right every practice session, I won't have to ever think about it in a match, when I am wearing down. I hope, hehe.

I'll get a vid up of myself too Boo Jay, as soon as I figure out how to do it. I am lazy there too. I want to see if I do what I 'think' I do, and especially if I do what I tell others to do!
 

Ambivalent

Hall of Fame
In that second flat vid, judging by the angle, if you were actually hitting flat, most of those shots would be out.

But still, i'd say 4.0-4.5. The rating system is crap though, i've beaten 4.5s and lost to supposed 4.0s.
 

boojay

Hall of Fame
I'll get a vid up of myself too Boo Jay, as soon as I figure out how to do it. I am lazy there too. I want to see if I do what I 'think' I do, and especially if I do what I tell others to do!

You'll be shocked my friend. I can't tell you how many times (even now) I'm not doing what I thought I was doing. It's demoralizing and motivating at the same time. That's a great mindset to have though, forcing yourself to do it in practice so that you do it naturally. I really need to start doing that as well. If I have to tell myself to do it, that's not good enough.

I look forward to your clip(s).
 

Zets147

Banned
Thanks :D.

And to answer your question, how's this? I have absolutely NO CLUE how to hit a 2-hander. Like, no clue, at all. You would cry if you saw me attempt a two-handed backhand. Good enough? ;)

However, I only started hitting topspin backhands less than a year ago. I used to slice a lot, but now 90% of my backhands are topspin.

hahaha I see. I think I would cry if I tape myself hitting 2handers also because I don't know how haha
Although it might be fun to try playing left handed with a 2hander though.
 
based on your strokes, i think you would be placed in a 3.5 league...the footwork is sloppy. one handed bh is poor. no overhead (~1:30). forehand isn't consistent when pace is increased. you look like a lot of 3.5 players i see. that does not mean you're incapable of being a 4.0, just that i don't see you winning matches beyond a 3.5 level unless you improve.
 

boojay

Hall of Fame
I'm thinkin' Gee Will's second response was also meant to be a joke.

As for XhotXEX1290's response, that wasn't meant to be an overhead, I was just tapping the ball back to him. I just came back from a doubles match and had about a dozen overhead smash winners.
 

FitzRoy

Professional
Well, maybe, but I was joking too. ;)

boojay, I liked the video. You seem to have a very good rhythm to your hitting. The one thing I would say is that if you're just practicing, you know, hitting around for fun, I think it's useful to not run around the backhand all the time (assuming that's your weaker side?) I guess there's different opinions on that...on the one hand, practicing running around will make it an easier, more familiar, and more natural movement during real points, but then the negative is that you don't practice as many backhands so it's harder to improve it.
 
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