Carlos Alcaraz won the first wooden spoon in his career at Astana.

[I Am Finnish]

What it tell us?

 

[alexio]

What it tell us?

that he's not neo

 

[mike danny]

Sure, same like Simon > Federer, because he pushed Djokovic to 5 in AO16 and Federer got beaten in 4. Surely no nuance need to be applied to understand that result.

We're comparing finals to finals not early round vs final.

 

[Born_to_slice]

We're comparing finals to finals not early round vs final.

It took you a week to come up with that? Anyway, my comparison only served to show you how impossible is to directly compare different matches vs different opponents in different tournaments, under different circumstances but you took it literally...

 

[mike danny]

It took you a week to come up with that? Anyway, my comparison only served to show you how impossible is to directly compare different matches vs different opponents in different tournaments, under different circumstances but you took it literally...

I understand. But you swept away Agassi in favor of Djokovic despite Djokovic not facing anyone as good as 2005 Fed.

 

[Born_to_slice]

I understand. But you swept away Agassi in favor of Djokovic despite Djokovic not facing anyone as good as 2005 Fed.

Djokovic faced Federer himself, much better versions than 2005 one.

 

[mike danny]

Djokovic faced Federer himself, much better versions than 2005 one.

The bolded is an absurd statement.

And Djokovic at 35 didn't face someone like Federer.

 

[Born_to_slice]

The bolded is an absurd statement.

And Djokovic at 35 didn't face someone like Federer.

It's not. Federer improved much in many ways but it didn't show in his results because he got toughest possible competition in Nadal and Djokovic.

IMO, 35 yo Djokovic would be very tough nut to crack for 2005 Federer (who at the time didn't have an idea how to play such player) but no way to be sure of result.

 

[Deleted member 629564]

Didn't Nadal have one the year he lost to Verdasco down under?
I know Carreno-Busta had it in the US Open last year.

How does this work exactly? Is there automatically one wooden spoon in every tournaments. Can there be more than one?

AO 2016, Nadal won it.

2016 AO
1R Nadal < Verdasco
2R Verdasco < Sela
3R Sela < Kuznetsov
4R Kuznetsov < Monfils
QF Monfils < Raonic
SF Raonic < Murray
F Murray < Djokovic