Djokovic has never left Roland Garros as the only undefeated player
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Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Makes sense. That is the only reason he won those two.
Jason Swerve
Hall of Fame
It's almost like there are only three male tennis players.
NAS
Hall of Fame
Fed and Rafa the moral champion2016 - Nadal withdraws early before their showdown
2022 - Federer withdraws early before their showdown
Funny coincidence.
RG victory asterisked
So now the count is Fed and Rafa 20.25
And Novak 19.50 slam
goldengate14
Professional
Sometimes it is easy to spot those who had all their hopes dashed in a short space of time. Since Flushing Meadows final a few weeks ago Fedal seem to have aquired a substantial amount of real estate for free.
Funny coincidence is that Fed withdrew vs Berrettini and not vs Djoker....he wanted Berretini to have an extra day rest and not the DJoker.2016 - Nadal withdraws early before their showdown
2022 - Federer withdraws early before their showdown
Funny coincidence.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
2016 - Nadal withdraws early before their showdown
2022 - Federer withdraws early before their showdown
Funny coincidence.
Prediction powers are scary.
BauerAlmeida
Hall of Fame
I don't think it's quite an anomaly, tons of majors have a player withdrawing at some point.
The Blond Blur
G.O.A.T.
Fiero425
Legend
You can count Nole's WD's on one hand while Fedal have lived off their reputations for years skipping event after event! If Fed had retired inn 2012 after his Wimbledon win, he would still be touted as the GOAT! I think he only hurt his legend by hanging on for 8 more years only acquiring 3 more majors!
Sunny014
Legend
You can count Nole's WD's on one hand while Fedal have lived off their reputations for years skipping event after event! If Fed had retired inn 2012 after his Wimbledon win, he would still be touted as the GOAT! I think he only hurt his legend by hanging on for 8 more years only acquiring 3 more majors!
Nope, Federer did himself a big favor by not retiring in 2012 and continuing until 2021-2022.
IFs and BUTs type glorification of yesteryear greats only happens in TTW, in the real world recency bias takes over bigtime. In the real world legacies look different in 10-20 years time, like for example Sampras was head and shoulders ahead of Agassi as a player in 2001 and once he crossed Emerson nobody cares whether he had not won the french or if Agassi had won all 4 slams at least once, but today 20 years later people in their 20s and 30s are saying on social media that Agassi winning all 4 slams at least once is a great feat because the Big 3 also did that and Sampras being the only 1 out of the 5 ATGs in the last 30 years to not do that makes him look inferior and at best on par with Agassi, people who never saw him play don't know that he dominated the 90s or maybe they don't care. SO Agassi's stock has gone up and Sampras's down for the people who never watched them play.
Sameway had Fed retired in 2012, people would have said, ok he left at 31, he was Nadal's pigeon and was a coward to retire early (like Borg) because Novak had also arrived. But in these 9 years Fed earned at least 600M $ in money, won 3 slams after 35, went toe to toe with Djokodal in 5 sets a few times, youngsters have seen the old man play, so they know that he is special and like the Rolex Ad says, his legacy has only grown perpetually.
Otherwise with Both Nadal and Novak on 20 and Fed on 17, it would have looked like Fed was inferior.
So being in the limelight (even if it is at the cost of being called a fraud-error or whatevr nickname that people give him while bashing) if better than being forgotten.
Being bashed is better than being forgotten/irrelevant.
Djokovic retired so many times before possible showdowns. But Federer did play 2020 AO SF despite being seriously injured.2016 - Nadal withdraws early before their showdown
2022 - Federer withdraws early before their showdown
Funny coincidence.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
The difference here is, Djokovic took official losses to his name as he left those events. Novak never withdrew before the match, unless you can correct me here.
I dont think Djoker ever withdrew before a match but retired few times..and Fed never retired from a match but withdrew few times.
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