Federer Fan Mourning Thread

[Wangtang1]

It's over. When Nadal wins this US Open and the upcoming french open, plus any one more major, Federer will be dethroned. After each one of Australian Open 2017 and Wimbledon 2017 and Australian Open 2018, I thought Federer was definitively out in front but Nadal keeps coming back.

Djokovic is now looking too erratic to be 100 % guaranteed for another 4 majors. Even his Wimbledon final 2019 performance was very inconsistent compared to 14/15, despite being really clutch. But Nadal is completely guaranteed to win more, barring a major injury.

It's so ironic that it has come at a time where Federer is the favourite to beat Nadal during any tournament except the clay ones. Also we see Nadal as the ultimate vulture compared to Federer and Djokovic. The latter two marked out their own eras while Nadal picks at the leftovers.

 

[Breakpointerer]

We're good

 

[StrongRule]

Right, another Federer fan who believe in jinx. Medvedev is in great form right now.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Many Fed fans like Rafa too, it's all good.

 

[Pantera]

Many Fed fans like Rafa too, it's all good.

Are u rooting for Rafa tomorrow? If so massive respect. Seriously.

 

[ibbi]

So how did you know Roger?

 

[joy-z]

Maybe they will end up being tied at 20. I think that would be fitting.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Are u rooting for Rafa tomorrow? If so massive respect. Seriously.

No, I will be rooting for Med. I seriously doubt many Fed fans will be rooting for Rafa in a slam final. I like Rafa lot and will root for him in clay events and even recently in Montreal, but not a slam final.

 

[Djokovic2011]

Have you seen Federer's career stats? What on earth do you have to be sad about?!

 

[Lleytonstation]

And...?

So he is not "King" or mythical "GOAT" so what. That should not be why you are a fan of the guy.

 

[StrongRule]

Have you seen Federer's career stats? What on earth do you have to be sad about?!

You are sad when Djokovic is losing, right?

Of course it's sad for fans that Federer didn't win a slam this year.

 

[Third Serve]

Yeah, it's a shame Federer only won 20 slams.

 

[beast of mallorca]

Maybe they will end up being tied at 20. I think that would be fitting.

Can you imagine, Rafa, Fed and Djoker tied at 20 a piece?

Wow, the never ending GOAT debate continues,

 

[Djokovic2011]

You are sad when Djokovic is losing, right?

Of course it's sad for fans that Federer didn't win a slam this year.

If Djokovic is still playing at 38 and is no longer winning GS tournaments believe me, I really won't be that bothered.

 

[kishnabe]

Federer will be GOAT to Fedfans.

Nadal will be GOAT to Nadal Fans.

Don't care if Nadal and DJokovic win another 10 slams, would never consider him greater than Federer.

 

[StrongRule]

If Djokovic is still playing at 38 and is no longer winning GS tournaments believe me, I really won't be that bothered.

Age doesn't matter here. Federer didn't lose Wimbledon final because of his age. Not this time. He even had matchpoints on serve.

 

[DSH]

If Nadal wins, is Over.
If he does not, Fed will keeps his place until the arrive of another generation.
The prayers began!

 

[BeatlesFan]

If Nadal wins, is Over.
If he does not, Fed will keeps his place until the arrive of another generation.
The prayers began!

Again, nobody is answering the question: how is 19 slams suddenly GOAT when someone else has 20 and superior career stats, such as weeks at #1, 5+ slams in three majors, etc.

It's not "over" until the big are retired and their slam totals are set in stone. For now, Federer is GOAT. If Nadal gets to #21, he's GOAT in my book, although countless Rafa fans erroneously claim "Fed worshipers keep moving the goalposts." I don't. If either Djoker or Nadal reach 21, they're GOAT in my book.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Again, nobody is answering the question: how is 19 slams suddenly GOAT when someone else has 20 and superior career stats, such as weeks at #1, 5+ slams in three majors, etc.

It's not "over" until the big are retired and their slam totals are set in stone. For now, Federer is GOAT. If Nadal gets to #21, he's GOAT in my book, although countless Rafa fans erroneously claim "Fed worshipers keep moving the goalposts." I don't. If either Djoker or Nadal reach 21, they're GOAT in my book.

Problem is every fanbase has the desire to have the "best" guy. Never understood that, if he is the guy you like most then why does it matter? Sure it is nice to have, but not going to change my thoughts on Fed.

 

[BringBackSV]

Some people need to get a life. Even if Roger were to lose the slam record, why should that prevent you from appreciating his career?

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Some people need to get a life. Even if Roger were to lose the slam record, why should that prevent you from appreciating his career?

Wanting to share your appreciation with others is natural, no?

 

[BringBackSV]

Wanting to share your appreciation with others is natural, no?

How is that being inhibited?

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

How is that being inhibited?

Think about the ridicule the likes of Zverev and Dimitrov receive. Not a healthy environment to profess your appreciation for them if you feel like it, is it?

 

[kevaninho]

Even if Nadal gets 20 slams, or even 21, there will still be debate about their careers.
Federer has so much stats that Nadal cant touch, and vice versa.
Id personally be ok if they both ended their careers on even slams, and everyone else can debate forever about the other stats.
Theyre both good people, and have been great for tennis. Plus theyre good friends off the court.
Im sure theyd both settle for 20 slams each when all is said and done.

 

[Pantera]

Again, nobody is answering the question: how is 19 slams suddenly GOAT when someone else has 20 and superior career stats, such as weeks at #1, 5+ slams in three majors, etc.

It's not "over" until the big are retired and their slam totals are set in stone. For now, Federer is GOAT. If Nadal gets to #21, he's GOAT in my book, although countless Rafa fans erroneously claim "Fed worshipers keep moving the goalposts." I don't. If either Djoker or Nadal reach 21, they're GOAT in my book.

Federer is 3rd. Im sorry but he has less Majors than Nadal and Djokovic when all 3 were peak at same time. His record at FO and USO is dire last 11 years.

 

[StrongRule]

Even if Nadal gets 20 slams, or even 21, there will still be debate about their careers.
Federer has so much stats that Nadal cant touch, and vice versa.
Id personally be ok if they both ended their careers on even slams, and everyone else can debate forever about the other stats.
Theyre both good people, and have been great for tennis. Plus theyre good friends off the court.
Im sure theyd both settle for 20 slams each when all is said and done.

Yeah, the GOAT debate is meaningless because we have no clear definition of who is the GOAT. We can only compare different stats. 20 slams is not much more than 18 anyway.

 

[tennisaddict]

Nadal has been showing remarkable consistency outside of clay and it has to pay dividends some time. Good on him for not giving up after Wimb 18, USO 18, AO 19, Wimb 19.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

What's over? Fed having the slam record? He still does, but so what anyway? Nadal's or anyone else's achievements don't diminish Federer as a player. Just enjoy the game

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Nothing's guaranteed anyway. Just look at Serena

 

[Zebrev]

Federer fans are worrying far too soon as usual. If Nadal wins tomorrow, he is on 19. Then he has to win one of the next 2 slams, which he has a less than 50 percent chance of doing, even if he avoids injuries.

We are also mistaken to write off Feds chances of ever winning another slam again just because of a few tough losses. Remember that the one guy who can beat Federer reliably just quit mid-match and could be out of contention for a while.

I think a rested Federer at Auzzie is still a threat (heck, he won 2 of the last 3 editions, when was last time Nadal won an edition)

Heck, Federer won Wimbledon 2017 and reached the final in 2019. When was Nadals last Wimbledon final or win? Again, I don't see it that Nadal is ahead, they are more or less with the opportunities they have. Nadal has been more consistent as of late, but its only a matter of time before he is bounced in the early rounds of a slam again. Imagine this, Djokovic isn't fully matchfit and focused heading into Auzzie 2020, Nadal loses in 4th round to Next Gen? Then who is the favourite to take the title and nullify USO 19?

You guys are worrying way to much, wait and see how things play out. One big positive to this is that hopefully Nadal replaces Djokovic as number 1, which means one of Federers biggest records remains intact. Rafa has had a good strong run for about a year, but it will come to an end, and although Federer is not the force once was, you can never count him out to get hot, and win a slam. Hes still capable of that, on his best day, and will be for a litte while more.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

RIP Fred we will never forget you

 

[MugOpponent]

Some people need to get a life. Even if Roger were to lose the slam record, why should that prevent you from appreciating his career?

Exactly. I'm a Nadal fan because I like Nadal and his tennis. His tennis career has provided me a lot of entertainment, joy and inspiration. That's good enough for me.

 

[Zebrev]

Federer will have a last hurrah, I'm sure of that.

 

[DSH]

Federer will have a last hurrah, I'm sure of that.

And Zverev?

 

[BeatlesFan]

Problem is every fanbase has the desire to have the "best" guy. Never understood that, if he is the guy you like most then why does it matter?

I started noticing Roger in 1998 and started rooting for him in 2001. I loved him when he'd won nothing and will not stop adoring him if he's surpassed in GOATdom by either Rafa or Nole. If they pass him, hat's off to either. Nobody who was following Roger's career in 2001-003 ever entertained the thought he'd be best ever in those years. The hope back then was to win 6-8 majors.

He exceeded expectations.

 

[Kozzy]

It's really just too hard to tell. Rafa might lose tomorrow - and he might never win again. Same for Djoker, though of course that's unlikely, but stuff happens, as they say. And, you never know, Roger might get another! Anyway, no matter what the slam count in the end, and I say this as a Rafa fan, Roger will always be the GOAT/greatest of this generation. I mean, without him, neither Rafa nor Djokovic would've been inspired to raise their level, I don't think. He made sustained success at all majors seem possible. Personally, I don't see Djokovic or Rafa winning majors after 35.

 

[icedevil0289]

for w/e its worth, even if he ends up third, teh fact that someone with his style whose game was formed when things were so different still continues to play and be somewhat successful in the modern game is amazing and a testament to his abilities. i'm also going to put out there that for so long he was always the one being chased, djokodal do not have people 5 years younger trying to push them out.

honestly less about federer and more about the state of the ATP and the state of the game is making me sad, since there is very little variety

 

[swizzy]

That Australian Open where Nadal let it get away and Fed kept pace that year was the match that seemed to put the goal of reaching Fed out of reach.. and it still might.

 

[Lleytonstation]

I started noticing Roger in 1998 and started rooting for him in 2001. I loved him when he'd won nothing and will not stop adoring him if he's surpassed in GOATdom by either Rafa or Nole. If they pass him, hat's off to either. Nobody who was following Roger's career in 2001-003 ever entertained the thought he'd be best ever in those years. The hope back then was to win 6-8 majors.

He exceeded expectations.

Yep, I first saw him when he beat my first tennis hero in 01, but even when I became a huge fan by 05, I never imagined he would catch Sampras even at that time.

 

[Djokovic2011]

Federer fans are worrying far too soon as usual. If Nadal wins tomorrow, he is on 19. Then he has to win one of the next 2 slams, which he has a less than 50 percent chance of doing, even if he avoids injuries.

We are also mistaken to write off Feds chances of ever winning another slam again just because of a few tough losses. Remember that the one guy who can beat Federer reliably just quit mid-match and could be out of contention for a while.

I think a rested Federer at Auzzie is still a threat (heck, he won 2 of the last 3 editions, when was last time Nadal won an edition)

Heck, Federer won Wimbledon 2017 and reached the final in 2019. When was Nadals last Wimbledon final or win? Again, I don't see it that Nadal is ahead, they are more or less with the opportunities they have. Nadal has been more consistent as of late, but its only a matter of time before he is bounced in the early rounds of a slam again. Imagine this, Djokovic isn't fully matchfit and focused heading into Auzzie 2020, Nadal loses in 4th round to Next Gen? Then who is the favourite to take the title and nullify USO 19?

You guys are worrying way to much, wait and see how things play out. One big positive to this is that hopefully Nadal replaces Djokovic as number 1, which means one of Federer's biggest records remains intact. Rafa has had a good strong run for about a year, but it will come to an end, and although Federer is not the force once was, you can never count him out to get hot, and win a slam. Hes still capable of that, on his best day, and will be for a litte while more.

For the time being.

 

[Le Master]

After this Wimbledon/US Open combo, I feel like I've finally given up after all these years into being really emotionally into Fed fighting to keep winning slams. I mean, I will always root for him and think he's the GOAT personally, but I feel like it's actually nearing the end for him -- and I didn't once think that during the 2013 fiasco and dreadful 2016.

 

[Lleytonstation]

For the time being.

I say we call it after this USO and make it official. No need to continue this race.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

This is a real goat anyway. Much cuter than those tennis players.

 

[DSH]

This is a real goat anyway. Much cuter than those tennis players.

Do you have pets in your home?

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Do you have pets in your home?

No, not anymore. I want to though. I have a bird house and a bee hotel, not the same.

 

[helterskelter]

Federer fans are worrying far too soon as usual. If Nadal wins tomorrow, he is on 19. Then he has to win one of the next 2 slams, which he has a less than 50 percent chance of doing, even if he avoids injuries.

We are also mistaken to write off Feds chances of ever winning another slam again just because of a few tough losses. Remember that the one guy who can beat Federer reliably just quit mid-match and could be out of contention for a while.

I think a rested Federer at Auzzie is still a threat (heck, he won 2 of the last 3 editions, when was last time Nadal won an edition)

Heck, Federer won Wimbledon 2017 and reached the final in 2019. When was Nadals last Wimbledon final or win? Again, I don't see it that Nadal is ahead, they are more or less with the opportunities they have. Nadal has been more consistent as of late, but its only a matter of time before he is bounced in the early rounds of a slam again. Imagine this, Djokovic isn't fully matchfit and focused heading into Auzzie 2020, Nadal loses in 4th round to Next Gen? Then who is the favourite to take the title and nullify USO 19?

You guys are worrying way to much, wait and see how things play out. One big positive to this is that hopefully Nadal replaces Djokovic as number 1, which means one of Federers biggest records remains intact. Rafa has had a good strong run for about a year, but it will come to an end, and although Federer is not the force once was, you can never count him out to get hot, and win a slam. Hes still capable of that, on his best day, and will be for a litte while more.

Your third sentence is probably a mistake. The bookies give Nadal a 45-50% chance at Roland Garros alone and a 15-20% at the Australian Open. If they are right, his chances of winning at least one of them are between 60 and 70%.

 

[MambiPambi]

Right, another Federer fan who believe in jinx. Medvedev is in great form right now.

Dude, you're the biggest jinxer on the forum. Have you ever gone back and read your posts and compared them to what actually transpired?

 

[Kuclas]

Federer is 3rd. Im sorry but he has less Majors than Nadal and Djokovic when all 3 were peak at same time. His record at FO and USO is dire last 11 years.

Say what??

Fed is 5 years older than nadal. 6 years older than djokovic. Fed peak years were 2004-2009. Age 23-28

Novak peak years 2011-2016 (age 24-29)

Nadal peak years 2008-2013 age 22-27

So there is very little over lap of “peak” years.

Male tennis players peak usually age 23-26. History has proven this time and time again. Borg, connors, McEnroe, Lendl, Sampras, Agassi. Even edberg, Becker, wilander. All former number 1 players.

The last 3 seasons. Nadal, Novak, especially Federer would considered to be way over the hill in almost any other tennis era. The issue is the so called next gen players. Ages 22-25. None of them have been able to take the next step.

 

[Pantera]

Say what??

Fed is 5 years older than nadal. 6 years older than djokovic. Fed peak years were 2004-2009. Age 23-28

Novak peak years 2011-2016 (age 24-29)

Nadal peak years 2008-2013 age 22-27

So there is very little over lap of “peak” years.

Male tennis players peak usually age 23-26. History has proven this time and time again. Borg, connors, McEnroe, Lendl, Sampras, Agassi. Even edberg, Becker, wilander. All former number 1 players.

The last 3 seasons. Nadal, Novak, especially Federer would considered to be way over the hill in almost any other tennis era. The issue is the so called next gen players. Ages 22-25. None of them have been able to take the next step.

Best post on here and it should be required reading for trolls...as its exhibit A as to why their is no actual GOAT as we will never know whose peak was the best.

What we do know is we have seen the three greatest players of the open era.

 

[MeatTornado]

Dude, you're the biggest jinxer on the forum. Have you ever gone back and read your posts and compared them to what actually transpired?

I'll give a little preview of tomorrow

Medvedev just nailed 3 serves in a row during the warm-up. Rafa has zero chance of breaking this servebot. Just hand over the trophy already.