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AceSalvo
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Cmon now. In a perfect Fed fan world, Fed win's #21 and that YE#1 is just around the corner. Even healthy Fed deserves to "Dream Big".
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
I see those numbers and think it is almost impossible to think he catches either Rafa or him, unless he wins this USO.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, I want to see 2-3 titles from here on out, but lets be honest, it is all about the next 6 days.Like the sentiment...
But Murray paid for that with his hip.
Would love to see him keep hammerin' on that title count, tho.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Djokovic would be 1100 ahead of Fed even if Fed wins USO. How does he make that up ? Not unless Djokovic's injury continues which i doubt very much.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
i know some might have him as the fav now since nole isout, imo its still nadal's to lose. i just fed keeps his head on straight and keeps playing well
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Who cares about the end of year crap, I want this USO, and nothing else. It is all in for the next 5 days. Let's get this done.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
It's a fun hypothetical, regardless.Like the sentiment...
But Murray paid for that with his hip.
Would love to see him keep hammerin' on that title count, tho.
Yugram
Legend
Nadal is in dominant position to be YE#1 atm. Doesn’t even need to win anything it seems. A final here and like Semi in Shanghai and at WTF.
AceSalvo
Legend
Why does it have to about "injuries"?? Djoko can just fall off a cliff. ATP matches result wise that is.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
I am ok with Fed getting USO and Nadal getting YE No 1. We can all be happy,. Djoko fans have their 2 majors.
All in all, everyone can coexist.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Unlikely that happens. This seems like a stiff shoulder which needs a week or so of rest. Nothing major or career threatening,.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
I don't care about the year end number one. But if Fed can make up some serious ground here, and then only defending R4 points in Australia with Novak holding all 2000, things start to get interesting for 2020 and Novak passing Fed for the all-time leader at #1 is suddenly isn't an auto-lock.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
He alrready said it was not something that can be long term, so he is fine.
Arvind Sridhar
Semi-Pro
Can't get too far ahead as enticing as it sounds...Federer needs to make the final first....It's easier knowing its going to be close to impossible than thinking he actually has a good chance...More to lose now with the guy who's cost him 5 grand slams the last 4 years crashing out....Hope he makes the most of it...Would be a relief after the trainwreck in London...But who knows.....Nadal still scares me though...LOL
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Nadal's Federer's pigeon these days.
Lady Liberty called this one for the GOAT weeks ago, and I'm with her.
But seriously, Fed's gotten derailed by a bunch of randoms out of left field in recent years.
He's got to win three more matches; I don't wanna see some also-ran go beast mode on him.
tennisaddict
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Let us not get ahead of ourselves.. Fed has blown so many matches / tournaments from every way possible. We are long way from the USO title , let alone No 1.
Wimb 19, IW 19, IW 18, USO 09,10,11 and countless matches where Fed had to win just a point or two - he couldn't do it . With his advanced age and declined movement, nothing is a guarantee. He has dropped sets to Nagal and Dzumhur here. Nadal will be a monster in the finals.
Wimb 19, IW 19, IW 18, USO 09,10,11 and countless matches where Fed had to win just a point or two - he couldn't do it . With his advanced age and declined movement, nothing is a guarantee. He has dropped sets to Nagal and Dzumhur here. Nadal will be a monster in the finals.
Federer and Del Potro
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Yeah I personally rate Nadal as the favorite at the moment, but do think Federer has an excellent chance here. He won't get many more chances like this. I really don't care about number 1 but if Federer could somehow secure #21 here it would go a long way in making Wimbledon feel a lot less painful. Will never be able to erase it, but Fed can make up for it here.
Arvind Sridhar
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Will sort of be a A02017 redux if Federer faces Stan and then Nadal in the finals ( with him probably going through a Zverev albeit a pretty sub par version)....
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FatFedererFanTurnsSlim
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Ye Tennis Gods, 6th USO & 7th WTF is all I ask.
Arvind Sridhar
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The good thing for me is the fact that Federer seems to be back in it mentally...He was dreadful the first two matches and even from Cincy and almost everyone was wondering if he was shot mentally. Feel that question's been answered. With Novak gone, essentially Federer's Achilles heel, he should approach each match with a lot more purpose and intensity...Like Federer and Del Potro mentioned, he wont get a better chance...
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
His mentality won't be tested until he's back in the final. That's when he'll have to fight back any underlying demons that he's pushed away this week.
AceSalvo
Legend
Honestly, I don't care about the YE#1 stuff. But if Fed remains healthy, the YE#1 thought will cross his mind through the next year as well.
oldmanfan
Legend
Optimism, guys.
2019 Fedr lost in slams to Tsits/Nadl/Djokr. Tsits loss was bad luck losing 2/3 TBs, Nadl loss was FO clay in sandstorm, and Djokr loss was losing 3/3 TBs while winning 15pts more.
The optimist in me says he's only lost to good/great players in 2019 slams. Of those 3 players, 2 are out. Sure, upsets 'can' happen. Tsits loss was the only slam upset Fedr faced mainly due to Tsits being clutch saving 12/12 Bps, but the match was 50/50 having 3 TBs.
It's important to note that while we're being realistic that USO19 finals is not a lock for Fedr, it also is not a lock for Nadl, and Nadl's yet to play his 4R. Djokr's injury aside (though Djokr looked well enough upto *2-1 of set3 against Stan), who predicted he won't even make QF?
The one thing I'm confident about is that 'if' Fedr were to not reach the finals, it would take some doing from Dimi, Stan/Medv. Fedr wants this, and will try his utmost, now that the opportunity is ripe. USO19 just got way more interesting for Fedfans.
2019 Fedr lost in slams to Tsits/Nadl/Djokr. Tsits loss was bad luck losing 2/3 TBs, Nadl loss was FO clay in sandstorm, and Djokr loss was losing 3/3 TBs while winning 15pts more.
The optimist in me says he's only lost to good/great players in 2019 slams. Of those 3 players, 2 are out. Sure, upsets 'can' happen. Tsits loss was the only slam upset Fedr faced mainly due to Tsits being clutch saving 12/12 Bps, but the match was 50/50 having 3 TBs.
It's important to note that while we're being realistic that USO19 finals is not a lock for Fedr, it also is not a lock for Nadl, and Nadl's yet to play his 4R. Djokr's injury aside (though Djokr looked well enough upto *2-1 of set3 against Stan), who predicted he won't even make QF?
The one thing I'm confident about is that 'if' Fedr were to not reach the finals, it would take some doing from Dimi, Stan/Medv. Fedr wants this, and will try his utmost, now that the opportunity is ripe. USO19 just got way more interesting for Fedfans
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Rogfan
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Only a bit more than a month ago people were saying ‘he won’t get another chance like this’ on his blowing of 2 championship points and #21. Now he’s giving himself ‘another chance like this’ before we realised (although still early days). Yet we’re still saying ‘he won’t get another chance like this’?? Sorry my tongue is tied after writing this
Arvind Sridhar
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Hasn't this been the case since the nadirs of 2013 and 2016. And more recently 2018. That being said, let him reach the finals at least..It still two match wins away. Will not take much for Medvedev/Wawrinka to do a Cilic....Only a bit more than a month ago people were saying ‘he won’t get another chance like this’ on his blowing of 2 championship points and #21. Now he’s giving himself ‘another chance like this’ before we realised (although still early days). Yet we’re still saying ‘he won’t get another chance like this’?? Sorry my tongue is tied after writing this
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Every match as it comes. Roger has a reasonable chance with Novak out. Remember though, Wawrinka is a former champ and took Roger to 5 sets in the AO 17 semi final. Rafa is still in the field.
Yes, Roger has a reasonable chance with the right to be confident, but no looking too far ahead for him or us.
Yes, Roger has a reasonable chance with the right to be confident, but no looking too far ahead for him or us.
Arvind Sridhar
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Tell me about it...Took a 14 hour bus from Chicago to NYC to watch that match hoping it would be Fed vs Djokovic only to see Cilic/Nishikori...Thankfully got the final I wanted next year where I was there....But that match's end was even more underwhelming....Don’t remind me of that Cilic match...
Rogfan
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I could only imagine how devastating that must have been being there. I usually just turn the tv/laptop off when I don’t think he has a chance...still remember I went to hide in the toilet in the 2015 final at championship point hoping he’d have saved it when I walked out. Being there..don’t you wish you could turn the whole stadium off..
TheIntrovert
Hall of Fame
Now at least there won’t be any scheduling issues and he can get adjusted to the night conditions
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
He can play just evening matches unless the higher forces want him to play night matches
Arvind Sridhar
Semi-Pro
2017-2018 more than made up for that in my opinion.....
AceSalvo
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Only a bit more than a month ago people were saying ‘he won’t get another chance like this’ on his blowing of 2 championship points and #21. Now he’s giving himself ‘another chance like this’ before we realised (although still early days). Yet we’re still saying ‘he won’t get another chance like this’?? Sorry my tongue is tied after writing this
As long as Fed steps foot on the court, he has a chance. I already learned the lesson to never doubt a man who already proved you wrong more than once.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Being literally a point away from the title isn't really the same thing as still having to play a QF, SF and F. He's still a long way away from hoisting #21.Only a bit more than a month ago people were saying ‘he won’t get another chance like this’ on his blowing of 2 championship points and #21. Now he’s giving himself ‘another chance like this’ before we realised (although still early days). Yet we’re still saying ‘he won’t get another chance like this’?? Sorry my tongue is tied after writing this
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah, I have been on board with him playing at night being better... at least that is what I will tell myself now.
AceSalvo
Legend
Ahem...
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Bad news!
1. The balls are dead at night, according to Roger and many other sources
2. Conditions slow to a crawl at night
3. Less recovery time (and every extra hour counts for a 38 year old)
The good news is I can't see Dimi beating Fed even with the scheduling.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
One of the few records Sampras still has over Roger is six (straight) YE #1's. Roger has 5. If he won the USO and ended the year #1 as a 38 year old, it would be mind boggling and the cherry on the top of his GOAT cake.
I think weeks at #1 is the second biggest criterion for GOAT and Roger squandered 3 extra months of #1 ranking by choking that Del Po Indian Wells final. If he could somehow claw his way back to #1 and get his total up to 330 weeks, it would be hard for Novak to ever best that. It's a very important stat in determining the GOAT. But honestly, Roger's chances of getting back to #1 are very small. But it makes the end of the year potentially much more interesting!
oldmanfan
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Bad news!
1. The balls are dead at night, according to Roger and many other sources
2. Conditions slow to a crawl at night
3. Less recovery time (and every extra hour counts for a 38 year old)
The good news is I can't see Dimi beating Fed even with the scheduling.
From what I understand, men's SFs are played on Friday. So, yes, a few hours less recovery time than playing daytime, but the top half has 1 extra day (two total) until their next match on Friday
.Arvind Sridhar
Semi-Pro
The primetime slot shouldn't make much of a difference in my opinion considering Dimitrov has not played a single night match..And he would probably need more adjusting to the conditions than Federer....Bad news!
1. The balls are dead at night, according to Roger and many other sources
2. Conditions slow to a crawl at night
3. Less recovery time (and every extra hour counts for a 38 year old)
The good news is I can't see Dimi beating Fed even with the scheduling.
AceSalvo
Legend
I think NY crowd would have supremely loved to have Stan - Mdvdv as a late nighter. Its not pleasing to watch Fed in his night kit.
None of this matters except for that "W".
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oldmanfan
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Fedr's acting is...improving!
Amazing that he can still joke about WB19 here...
Amazing that he can still joke about WB19 here...
Tennisgods
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Honestly, if Fed was to actually win this thing, i’d forget W19 in a flash. The reason that one hurt so much was because at Fed’s age you never know if he’ll ever get championship points at a slam again.
But he’s a long way from winning it of course. It’s just that with Djokovic out, my mind wanders ahead a bit...
AceSalvo
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Definitely came off as a pretty decent salesman.
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