Federer: Nike shirts look like a truck drove over it

teckid

Rookie
Been thinking about this since it came out, and thing the best part of the "truck" comment is how many shirt in the last 3 years this applies. I was trying to figure it out which one specifically and each shirt of the ones posted was like, "yeah it could be that one..." From the AO17 multiple tire track pattern, AO18 single track pattern, tie-died orange single track, the horizontal big black tire trips with pink, pink mud splatter. Hahah, so many.

A lot of it is just a traditional polo stripe, but funny when framed that way.
 

BretH

Semi-Pro
The other AO Nike outfits with the black/pink separation like Kyrgios is shown in made me think of togas and animal house. Simply awful.
 

gusgrand

Rookie
I don't think he ment his personal collab, but referencing the main tennis lines the last few seasons which imo, have been sub-par.
The Federer and Nadal collections have always been less-is-more, prob because of their input on the designs. The other Nike players, with a very few exceptions, ahve to wear the more flamboyant outfits.
The moment Nike dropped bonded seems on the Federer gear was the moment they dropped the ball.
 

tennistiger

Professional
Someone told me that the problem with the RF logo interacts with the fact that Federer still get his shoes from Nike. He could win a trial about using the logo himself but with the result of getting no more shoes from Nike. A worst case for the last year(s?) of his career. Think there will be a logo switch after his retirement.
 

FedFan97

New User
Where do you get the information that that is the last year of Federer's career from?

If Federer plays another 2-3 years that is a very substantial period. There are multiple instances of top players switching to other shoe brands without much problem, so there are indications that any top tier brand (Adidas, Asics, Nike, Yonex) can make a shoe for the top players.

:cool:

But how many of those top players are 37?? Is that really a necessary risk you assume?


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gusgrand

Rookie
Actually, if you look up some of the opinions in the thread about Federer's RG outfit, you will see that some posters were complaining that that type of seams are coming undone after several years. There was nothing wrong with stitched seams. It is just much faster, easier, and cheaper to produce garments with bonded seams, so Nike started using them.

:cool:
Actually, if you pay attention to the washing guideline/instructions the seems will last the life of the apparel... washing bonded anything too hot will soften the glue and make it come undone.
All my RF shirts still look brand new because I've never washed them higher than 30 degrees (even though the instructions say you can wash them at 40 degrees).

I like to look after whatever I own properly!
 

FedFan97

New User
Actually, if you pay attention to the washing guideline/instructions the seems will last the life of the apparel... washing bonded anything too hot will soften the glue and make it come undone.
All my RF shirts still look brand new because I've never washed them higher than 30 degrees (even though the instructions say you can wash them at 40 degrees).

I like to look after whatever I own properly!

All of my RF gear is washed in cold and hung dry - no heat! I like to look after whatever I spend big bucks on, even when they're bought on clearance from (fill in the blank)! [emoji23]


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gusgrand

Rookie
You are wrong about what will hold a lifetime of the garment, but if Nike warrants such defects more power to them. However, I am sure that the people that complain would have mentioned that sort of warranty, so either the promise for lifetime warranty is formulated in such a way that it cannot be held after a certain period, or Nike has calculated the eventual defects in the prices of its garments.

I can tell you from experience with various top of the line apparel and other items that glues don't hold well where there is a lot of flex and humidity, no matter how pricy the items are. There was a point in time where the sneaker heads world was rocked by very famous collectors selling off most of their collections because they realised that their fortune is disintegrating in front of their eyes. The glue gets dry and renders the shoe unusable. Same will happen with any bonded seams, so "lifetime warranty" is yet another marketing gimmick. You may say that the life of the apparel is not a lifetime warranty because of the type of item (clothing is mostly expendable nowadays), but most of those shirts are polyester, and polyester is pretty damn durable.

I have experience with various technical apparels with bonded seams, and even the best open after many years of use. No such a thing as "it will last until the thing is for the trash bin". The better companies even have a special service (including picking up the garment and delivering it to you after the work has been done arranged by themselves) to deal with that sort of problem.

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Mate, I don't know what you're referring to, who mentioned anything about a lifetime warranty or even a warranty?

I'm not talking about any other bonded shirts, but the Nike RF ones.
 
There's certainly something so pleasingly karmic in your 'sneaker head' anecdote; in a world where expendable items of little to no intrinsic value can become - with no real justification - worth thousands of dollars, it's a delicious irony that said ephemeral items are falling apart under the noses of their owners. In the event of a global holocaust, at least the survivors will be able to laugh at those that owned licence plates worth six figures, amongst other things.
 

gusgrand

Rookie
manufacturer guarantee
Not at all, that was an opinion due to personal experience, not a company manufacturing guarantee.
FYI I don't see the need to imply anything on here, I'd much rather tell it straight.
You really ought to know the difference between the two just by reading my comment!
 
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Biogenic

Rookie
Federer’s uniqlo outfit is really plain yes but actually they look alright especially for the price point. Maybe it’s what Fed wants which are plain designs with minimal accents

Tho i would have prefer if uniqlo would put more color details not just plain broad single color shirts and shorts. They should just imitate what they did last year like the accent on the pockets and sleeves
 

gusgrand

Rookie
Well, in that case, there are other experiences that are the opposite of yours. Also, considering since when Nike and others started using such seams there are no garments that have reasonably reached the end of their life cycle, so I don't understand how one can say something like that.

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You know, you really sound like someone who talks far quicker than he thinks.
Good luck with your super-negative Nike RF shirt experience, I hope you find another brand that preempts your specific needs & gripes because the old RF line clearly isn't it for you!
 
Federer’s uniqlo outfit is really plain yes but actually they look alright especially for the price point. Maybe it’s what Fed wants which are plain designs with minimal accents

Tho i would have prefer if uniqlo would put more color details not just plain broad single color shirts and shorts. They should just imitate what they did last year like the accent on the pockets and sleeves
Yep, agree that the shorts with the accent on the pockets and hems was their Federer high point, if you can call it that; they certainly need to stop messing with the cut of the collar; that 'aero' business - on top of the 'lab coat' debacle - has managed to ruin a basic, white outfit. Nishikori's gear certainly seems to fare better, some of the colours notwithstanding.
 
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