Federer's 2006 Australian Open

Federer's performance at the 2006 Australian Open is extremely underrated, because a lot of idiots think that Federer losing some sets (*gasp*) to players who weren't Top 10 means he was "playing like garbage."

What is never mentioned is that Federer won 10 of his 21 winning sets by a score of 6-2 or better, including dishing out 4 bagels.

No slam produced more "Federer Fun House" caliber shots. He showed everything in his arsenal at one time or another during that tournament, and when he was on, he was untouchable.

So why the lost sets, and to the players he lost them to? It was largely a perfect storm.

After cruising through the first 3 matches, he was steamrolling Haas, up 2 sets to 0, and then, to some, he took his foot off the gas and got lackadaisical. But the reality is, Haas simply plays Federer better than most and believes more than most. He doesn't roll over when he plays Federer, which was demonstrating when he accused Patrick McEnroe of having his "tongue up Federer's ***" before the match, and saying people should hold off on calling Federer the GOAT. Combine this with the fact that the AO on rebound ace was Haas's best slam, and he was able to hang in there and push it to 5. Then Federer's backhand caught fire in the 5th and he finished the job.

Next up was Davydenko, who is simply a nightmare on HC when on. Quite frankly, Davydenko should have probably won the match, but he choked. A tight match with the cleanest ball striker on tour (well, I guess Agassi was still technically around then) on rebound ace isn't really to be all that unexpected.

I don't care about the 2nd set, Federer absolutely demolished Kiefer. 3 4ths of the sets they played were Federer in full flight, head and shoulders above Kiefer. The 2nd set was Kiefer doing his usual scrappy pest routine. This was nothing new in their matchup - Kiefer eked out a set against Federer at both Wimbledon and the US Open the year before. He did the same to Nadal at the 2009 US Open after getting bageled in the 1st.

The match that looks the worst to revisionist historians now is going down a set and a break to Baghdatis in the final. You have to actually see this match to understand why, though. Baghdatis didn't come out playing like a nervous rookie slam finalist; he came out with adrenaline. He was bombing 130+ MPH serves down the T. He somehow managed to carry the momentum from his dream run into the final for 2 sets. All anyone could do in that situation was try to probe their way into the match, which is what Federer did in the 2nd. Once he turned that around, reality sank in for Baghdatis and he ran out of gas, and Federer steamrolled once again.

Now, I certainly wouldn't say the 2006 AO was Federer's best winning GS performance overall, but during the period where he was playing well that tournament, it was the best GS tennis he's ever played. He wasn't just beating people, he was destroying them...with all shots in peak form.
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
How come no one commented on this thread before?
don't know...it's a really good and informative thread.

Personally I think the ankle was still bothering Fed at this AO which is why for some sets his movement was a little slow and sloppy and errors crept into his game and his opponent could dictate. But when everything was clicking he was blasting the ball.
 

TheMaestro1990

Hall of Fame
don't know...it's a really good and informative thread.

Personally I think the ankle was still bothering Fed at this AO which is why for some sets his movement was a little slow and sloppy and errors crept into his game and his opponent could dictate. But when everything was clicking he was blasting the ball.

I agree.

What's most interesting about all this weak era talk between 2003-2007 is that the people saying it was a weak era are only looking at the players' names. Then they make up their mind and say that they weren't good enough. Somehow, I can't imagine them saying that if they actually watched Safin, Nalbandian and Davydenko (to name a few) compete with Federer during those years.
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
I agree.

What's most interesting about all this weak era talk between 2003-2007 is that the people saying it was a weak era are only looking at the players' names. Then they make up their mind and say that they weren't good enough. Somehow, I can't imagine them saying that if they actually watched Safin, Nalbandian and Davydenko (to name a few) compete with Federer during those years.
and plus even if you are looking only at accomplishments it makes no sense to degrade guys like safin, nalbandian, davydenko and then turn around and prop up murray, tsonga, and berdych
 

duaneeo

Legend
The 2006 AO was definitely one of the most exciting slam tournaments ever in mens singles. There was home favorite and previous year finalist Hewitt, who came back from 1-2 sets down to win his first-rounder, only to lose in the 2nd. Hirbaty won 3 consecutive 5-setters before losing in five to Davydenko in the 4th. Davykenko had to come back from a 1-2 set deficit against Karlovic in the 1st. Keifer came back from 0-2 sets down to beat Srichaphan in the 1st, and won a tough 5th setter against Grosjean in the QF. The OP nails Federer's exciting (nerve-wrecking!) matches, but the king of excitement was Baghdatis: beat Stepanek in 5 in the 2nd, Roddick in 4 in the R16, Ljubicic in 5 in the QF, and Nalbandian in 5 in the SF. It's too bad (but understandable) he didn't have enough gas in the tank in the final.
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
The 2006 AO was definitely one of the most exciting slam tournaments ever in mens singles. There was home favorite and previous year finalist Hewitt, who came back from 1-2 sets down to win his first-rounder, only to lose in the 2nd. Hirbaty won 3 consecutive 5-setters before losing in five to Davydenko in the 4th. Davykenko had to come back from a 1-2 set deficit against Karlovic in the 1st. Keifer came back from 0-2 sets down to beat Srichaphan in the 1st, and won a tough 5th setter against Grosjean in the QF. The OP nails Federer's exciting (nerve-wrecking!) matches, but the king of excitement was Baghdatis: beat Stepanek in 5 in the 2nd, Roddick in 4 in the R16, Ljubicic in 5 in the QF, and Nalbandian in 5 in the SF. It's too bad (but understandable) he didn't have enough gas in the tank in the final.
yup...AO has just produced so many incredible tournaments over the years. 04-06 was all amazing and 09.

Baghdatis' run was something else...and he was playing incredible tennis to start the match and that caught Fed off guard. But Fed did raise his game and we saw how much that title meant to him.

Every ATG has won of those slams where they are not at their best (here Fed was just inconsistent more than anything but still) and have to claw and scratch. And being able to do that separates the inner circle ATG from the others for sure and I've seen Sampras/Fed/Nadal/Djoker do it over the years and it's awesome to watch how deep these great players can dig.
 

I am the Greatest!

Professional
and plus even if you are looking only at accomplishments it makes no sense to degrade guys like safin, nalbandian, davydenko and then turn around and prop up murray, tsonga, and berdych

Well, Federer made them win close to nothing. It's more like a factor of Federer than the tour itself. He was that ****ing dominant, and well, most of the haters here have short term memories, or they just like to forget those times - dark times - when they couldn't do anything but pray that Roger lose.
 

Anaconda

Hall of Fame
Federer's AO 2006 was good. Baghdatis' wasn't so be either. However....


Safin didn't play
Nadal didn't play (although he would have barely been a contender anyway at that time)
Roddick pretty much pushed and gave the match to Baghdatis
Hewitt in 06, I was never a fan of Hewitt, but he dropped off completely in 06.



Which leaves Nalbandian and Haas as the only other guy in the draw who could have potentially beaten Federer. I know Roddick never beat Federer at a slam, but he was always one of the contenders to do so if he played fearless stuff ala W04, Nadal in 06 could beat Federer on any court (but was susceptible to the Blake's/Berdych's on HC's in that time) - he was playing complete crap in 06, and Safin (the only guy who did beat Federer in a HC slam in that time) didn't even play. I was never really a Hewitt fan, and against Federer he does seem a little helpless and lightweight, but he still had a better shot to beating Federer in a slam than most other players.


I swear Federer actually tried to lose against Haas and Davydenko and he ended up winning. I love Haas, he's a top tier talent and has been unlucky - but him (as well as Davydenko) are mental fruitcakes. I don't even think Davydenko was that great of a tennis player (rather one dimensional; a very consistent baseliner and that's it). He caused Federer all sorts of problems.




06 is a year I hate to remember and would love to forget in tennis. In that time, not many slam champions existed on tour, and by the end of 06 most of them were on tour but completely out of the picture for the slams. To make matters worse, the only other person who could hurt Federer was only a 100% bet on clay at that time and could lose to just about any hard hitter on the hard courts.




People think 03 is weak. I think they should investigate 2006 a lot more. In 2003 you at least had Roddick, Federer, Ferrero, Coria, Agassi, Moya and had Safin, Pim-pim, Haas to come back. 2006 was just a goddam horrible year for tennis. Even 2001/2002 were stronger years than 2006.
 
Lumping 2004-2007 all together and calling it a weak era I agree is wrong. However 2006 absolutely was a weak year. 2003 and 2004 were very good years overall, 2005 and 2007 mediocre but not too bad, and 2006 weak. Not every year even within an era is one and the same neccssarily.

Djokovic's era is similar in that regard, great competition in 2011 and 2012 and he was still top dog (and dominant in 2011). So so in 2013 and 2014, weak in 2015 and so far in 2016.

Nadal had the hardest competition of the trio as he faced more of Federer and Djokovic both at their best, at his own best. Not that any of the 3 played in close to the strongest era ever or something, nor was any of the trio the weakest (however everyone is an extremist, with Fed lovers such as metsman and TMF thinking he had the hardest competition ever and Djokovic the worst, and Djokovic fanboys thinking his competition is super hard and Federer only lorded over a weak era even though Fed can generally beat everyone but Djokovic of today even at 33/34).
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
Federer's AO 2006 was good. Baghdatis' wasn't so be either. However....


Safin didn't play
Nadal didn't play (although he would have barely been a contender anyway at that time)
Roddick pretty much pushed and gave the match to Baghdatis
Hewitt in 06, I was never a fan of Hewitt, but he dropped off completely in 06.



Which leaves Nalbandian and Haas as the only other guy in the draw who could have potentially beaten Federer. I know Roddick never beat Federer at a slam, but he was always one of the contenders to do so if he played fearless stuff ala W04, Nadal in 06 could beat Federer on any court (but was susceptible to the Blake's/Berdych's on HC's in that time) - he was playing complete crap in 06, and Safin (the only guy who did beat Federer in a HC slam in that time) didn't even play. I was never really a Hewitt fan, and against Federer he does seem a little helpless and lightweight, but he still had a better shot to beating Federer in a slam than most other players.


I swear Federer actually tried to lose against Haas and Davydenko and he ended up winning. I love Haas, he's a top tier talent and has been unlucky - but him (as well as Davydenko) are mental fruitcakes. I don't even think Davydenko was that great of a tennis player (rather one dimensional; a very consistent baseliner and that's it). He caused Federer all sorts of problems.




06 is a year I hate to remember and would love to forget in tennis. In that time, not many slam champions existed on tour, and by the end of 06 most of them were on tour but completely out of the picture for the slams. To make matters worse, the only other person who could hurt Federer was only a 100% bet on clay at that time and could lose to just about any hard hitter on the hard courts.




People think 03 is weak. I think they should investigate 2006 a lot more. In 2003 you at least had Roddick, Federer, Ferrero, Coria, Agassi, Moya and had Safin, Pim-pim, Haas to come back. 2006 was just a goddam horrible year for tennis. Even 2001/2002 were stronger years than 2006.
Blake and Roddick were not pushovers at the USO...Nadal wasn't at Wimby either. Also at Wimby he faced a pretty tough draw before the semis. Federer's slam competition in 06 was fine. His other competition was weak outside the clay masters basically. The Blake/Davydenko/Roddick sequence is easily tougher than what Djoker faced at the USO in 15.

Sure 2006 was the weakest Fed era year but still stronger than today. Having 1 surface on lockdown by default seals it.

Anyone who thinks 03 is weak is certifiably insane.
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
Lumping 2004-2007 all together and calling it a weak era I agree is wrong. However 2006 absolutely was a weak year. 2003 and 2004 were very good years overall, 2005 and 2007 mediocre but not too bad, and 2006 weak. Not every year even within an era is one and the same neccssarily.

Djokovic's era is similar in that regard, great competition in 2011 and 2012 and he was still top dog (and dominant in 2011). So so in 2013 and 2014, weak in 2015 and so far in 2016.

Nadal had the hardest competition of the trio as he faced more of Federer and Djokovic both at their best, at his own best. Not that any of the 3 played in close to the strongest era ever or something, nor was any of the trio the weakest (however everyone is an extremist, with Fed lovers such as metsman and TMF thinking he had the hardest competition ever and Djokovic the worst, and Djokovic fanboys thinking his competition is super hard and Federer only lorded over a weak era even though Fed can generally beat everyone but Djokovic of today even at 33/34).
how on earth are 2005 and 2007 mediocre? And regardless even if you think that it certainly didn't manifest that way in the slams (neither did it in 06) so in that case the weakness of the era doesn't make much of a difference. 06 Fed faced some weak competition outside the slams, I agree, in the slams though that was not the case.

I've said many times that the strongest eras ever were from around 78-95 or so. 96-98 was probably weaker than the current era. 2004 and 2011-2012 were fairly strong competition, 2005/2007/2013 were ok levels of competition. 2006 and 2014 were mediocre, 2015-now is even worse. So if you could not talk about me like that sitting on your cloud of unabashed objectivity, it would be swell.
 

Anaconda

Hall of Fame
Blake and Roddick were not pushovers at the USO...Nadal wasn't at Wimby either. Also at Wimby he faced a pretty tough draw before the semis. Federer's slam competition in 06 was fine. His other competition was weak outside the clay masters basically. The Blake/Davydenko/Roddick sequence is easily tougher than what Djoker faced at the USO in 15.

Sure 2006 was the weakest Fed era year but still stronger than today. Having 1 surface on lockdown by default seals it.

Anyone who thinks 03 is weak is certifiably insane.

Roddick was poor even at the US Open 2006. His serve pretty much got him to the final. His serve made sure it wasn't a total beatdown. His BH was even better than his FH and his net play was just a mess. You know sh1t has hit the fan when Roddick's BH is better than his FH. That was the case from Roddick after 2005. His backhand became his strongest wing. What the hell??? Like, seriously, this actually spins my head.


Whilst Blake had an amazing skillset, he didn't even think about what he was doing. Davydenko is just mentally weak.



I've already said I want to forget about 2006 and how bad it was, I'm happy to talk to you about anything else, but I'm not talking any more about it.
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
Roddick was poor even at the US Open 2006. His serve pretty much got him to the final. His serve made sure it wasn't a total beatdown. His BH was even better than his FH and his net play was just a mess. You know sh1t has hit the fan when Roddick's BH is better than his FH. That was the case from Roddick after 2005. His backhand became his strongest wing. What the hell??? Like, seriously, this actually spins my head.


Whilst Blake had an amazing skillset, he didn't even think about what he was doing. Davydenko is just mentally weak.



I've already said I want to forget about 2006 and how bad it was, I'm happy to talk to you about anything else, but I'm not talking any more about it.
Oh cmon Roddick was really good in the Hewitt and Youzhny matches in 06 and he played Federer very tough for a while in the final. His level was quite high and it wasn't all serve related although most of it was (which has basically been the case for roddick since 05). Roddick in his 06-07 USO form would have a very strong chance to win USO's in this era.

I mean you can knock Blake and Davydenko all you want..Davydenko was awful in set 1 but ok besides that, Blake played a pretty good match...but they are jesus compared to 34 year old Lopez not playing great and injured Cilic playing one of the worst GS semis I have seen....and not much difference in the finals performances of Roddick and Federer.
 

kishnabe

Talk Tennis Guru
I believe 2007 AO was his peak slam tennis. He came back from TMC 2006 hitting his Backhand peak match.

Straight sets.....dealt with Fernando Gonzalez form of his life.
 

mandy01

G.O.A.T.
Lumping 2004-2007 all together and calling it a weak era I agree is wrong. However 2006 absolutely was a weak year. 2003 and 2004 were very good years overall, 2005 and 2007 mediocre but not too bad, and 2006 weak. Not every year even within an era is one and the same neccssarily.

Djokovic's era is similar in that regard, great competition in 2011 and 2012 and he was still top dog (and dominant in 2011). So so in 2013 and 2014, weak in 2015 and so far in 2016.

Nadal had the hardest competition of the trio as he faced more of Federer and Djokovic both at their best, at his own best. Not that any of the 3 played in close to the strongest era ever or something, nor was any of the trio the weakest (however everyone is an extremist, with Fed lovers such as metsman and TMF thinking he had the hardest competition ever and Djokovic the worst, and Djokovic fanboys thinking his competition is super hard and Federer only lorded over a weak era even though Fed can generally beat everyone but Djokovic of today even at 33/34).
No. 2010 was among the worst years in tennis. I'd say it was way worse than anything I've seen so far. Roger never recovered after he lost steam post AO and was injured at Wimbledon 2010 to make matters worse. He did begin a partnership with Annacone but it took a while to materialize. Djokovic had lost to just about every top 10 player that year up until USO semis and was in no position to beat Nadal who anyway had an easy draw there.
Nadal struggled in week 1 at W, like he usually does but scrapped through somehow and faced Berdych of all people in a major final. I'll take Baghdatis over Berdych any day. Clay, I don't think Nadal's ever had any real competition there. His rival on that surface for the longest time was a fast court player trying hard to adapt himself only because he wanted to win in Paris once, which he anyway didn't till 2009.

I'll give you 2008 though.
 
No. 2010 was among the worst years in tennis. I'd say it was way worse than anything I've seen so far. Roger never recovered after he lost steam post AO and was injured at Wimbledon 2010 to make matters worse. He did begin a partnership with Annacone but it took a while to materialize. Djokovic had lost to just about every top 10 player that year up until USO semis and was in no position to beat Nadal who anyway had an easy draw there.
Nadal struggled in week 1 at W, like he usually does but scrapped through somehow and faced Berdych of all people in a major final. I'll take Baghdatis over Berdych any day. Clay, I don't think Nadal's ever had any real competition there. His rival on that surface for the longest time was a fast court player trying hard to adapt himself only because he wanted to win in Paris once, which he anyway didn't till 2009.

I'll give you 2008 though.

I agree wholeheartedly 2010 was a weaker year (but no weaker than 2006 or 2015, in fact 2015 is probably weaker than both, and you know whose best years ever those coincidentally were also), but I would say the general primes and peaks of these players are as follow:

Federer- peak 2004 to 2006, prime Wimbldon 2003-Australian Open 2010
Djokovic- peak 2011, 2015-ongoing, prime start of 2011-ongoing
Nadal- complicated but probably peak 2008-2013 (off and on), prime 2005-2014 French Open

So if we believe those are roughly right Nadal definitely dealt more with Fedovic prime to prime and peak to peak overall than either Federer or Djokovic did the other 2 combined. Based on that alone it puts his competition a bit above the other 2, considering everything else is more or less the same.
 
how on earth are 2005 and 2007 mediocre?

2005- Roddick was playing nowhere near as well as 2003-2004, despite that he still attained good results and a high ranking. That was plainly obvious just watching him play (if anything that he still ended #3 says this wasn't a great year). Safin's career (well his prime anyway) pretty much ended with an injury that spring, and his year for all purposes was the great Australian Open, the end. A lot of the guys who were strong in 2004- Moya, Henman, fell well off. The only players playing great besides Federer were teenaged Nadal and Hewitt.

2007- On one side the old guard of Federer's generation- Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, Ferrero, Coria, were pretty much done as contenders apart from Roddick in a more bit role than before, Nalbandian, and late blooming Davydenko. The next generation, apart from Nadal, were only starting to emerge. Nadal was a big threat on grass now, but not yet hard courts which would start in 08. Djokovic was just starting to emerge as a contender. Murray not a contender at all yet. Del Potro a nobody at this point.

Obviously better years than the very weak 2006 but still far from great, and well below 2003, 2004, 2008, and 2009.
 

duaneeo

Legend
2010 was among the worst years in tennis. I'd say it was way worse than anything I've seen so far.

2010 YE#2 Federer was way more dangerous than 2014 YE#2 Federer and 2015 YE#2 Murray.
2010 YE#3 Djokovic (just one season before the start of his 'prime') was more dangerous than 2014 YE#3 Nadal and 2015 YE#3 Federer.
 
E

Emperor of Belgrade

Guest
2010 YE#2 Federer was way more dangerous than 2014 YE#2 Federer and 2015 YE#2 Murray.
2010 YE#3 Djokovic (just one season before the start of his 'prime') was more dangerous than 2014 YE#3 Nadal and 2015 YE#3 Federer.
2010 Djokovic was the worst ever version of him in the last 10 years, not a single bigger title. You really think he was more dangerous than 2014 Nadal who spent half the year at #1 and had 1 GS and final or 2015 Federer who reached the last 3 big tournament finals (W-USO-WTF)?
 
2010 YE#2 Federer was way more dangerous than 2014 YE#2 Federer and 2015 YE#2 Murray.
2010 YE#3 Djokovic (just one season before the start of his 'prime') was more dangerous than 2014 YE#3 Nadal and 2015 YE#3 Federer.

Agree on the first part. Not on the 2nd. It is obvious you don't remember how bad Djokovic was (for even his pre prime standards) most of that year. He was great at the U.S Open but way below form most of the rest, including even events he did well results wise like Wimbledon.
 

Jaitock1991

Hall of Fame
Lumping 2004-2007 all together and calling it a weak era I agree is wrong. However 2006 absolutely was a weak year. 2003 and 2004 were very good years overall, 2005 and 2007 mediocre but not too bad, and 2006 weak. Not every year even within an era is one and the same neccssarily.

Djokovic's era is similar in that regard, great competition in 2011 and 2012 and he was still top dog (and dominant in 2011). So so in 2013 and 2014, weak in 2015 and so far in 2016.

Nadal had the hardest competition of the trio as he faced more of Federer and Djokovic both at their best, at his own best. Not that any of the 3 played in close to the strongest era ever or something, nor was any of the trio the weakest (however everyone is an extremist, with Fed lovers such as metsman and TMF thinking he had the hardest competition ever and Djokovic the worst, and Djokovic fanboys thinking his competition is super hard and Federer only lorded over a weak era even though Fed can generally beat everyone but Djokovic of today even at 33/34).

It's a two headed thing, I guess. An exceptionally great year for a given player is logically a combination of both the player playing at an unbelievably high level for the whole year, and the competition not being at the very best. IMO, both Fed06 and Nole15 are prime examples of this.
 
It's a two headed thing, I guess. An exceptionally great year for a given player is logically a combination of both the player playing at an unbelievably high level for the whole year, and the competition not being at the very best. IMO, both Fed06 and Nole15 are prime examples of this.

Nadal in 2010 as well. Basically a historic year was probably a major all time great playing just awesome and kind of sucky competition. The best years ever of Federer, Djokovic, Nadal are proof of that. Federer's 2004, Djokovic's 2015, and to a lesser degree Fed's 2005 I consider most impressive of all in a sense due to their competition. Nadal's 2008 and perhaps Fed's 2009 could be added to that too, even if less dominant those others.

The best example of someone having a historically great year with tough competition was McEnroe 84 but even there you can argue Lendl didn't really start peaking until 85 and Connors was already declining by that point. Wilander wasn't much a factor that year, Vilas was quite gold and done, Becker and Edberg didn't start being factors until a year later, etc...Still tougher than Fed's 2006, Nadal's 2010, and Djokovic's 2015 competition clearly though, and to go 82-3, incredible stuff by the Mac.
 
I actually agree with the OP in that the Australian Open was in many ways the most entertaining slam that year. RG was all about Fed and Rafa, Wimbledon again, U.S Open all about Federer and Roddick's resurgence (I guess the dangerous Youzhny having one of his career brilliant tournaments too). Australian Open had a lot of guys playing well, even if they mostly weren't the marquee names of the game. Federer also did play some great tennis, but in spurts, he was not as consistent there as at his best. Which would have gotten him into trouble playing Nadal or Djokovic at their best, but he still produced some brilliant streaks of play. The lost sets weren't just his lapses, his opponents also played very well, but he still had lapses.
 

duaneeo

Legend
It is obvious you don't remember how bad Djokovic was (for even his pre prime standards) most of that year. He was great at the U.S Open but way below form most of the rest, including even events he did well results wise like Wimbledon.

I very much remember. But he had the physical game to beat anyone, and his mentality (though still weak) increased as the year progressed. I think 2010 Nole was more dangerous than 2014 Nadal, who had a poor clay court season (outside of Roland Garros), and was pretty much a non-factor after the clay season.
 
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