Fixing the time rule

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VexlanderPrime

Guest
How would u guys fix the mess that is the time rule?

Personally I'd set it at 20 seconds and strictly enforce it with a timer. Dropping it to 20 would improve the pace of matches for Improved TV ratings and deter djoker v Andy; Rafa v. Anyone GRINDFESTS that last 2 hours too long and hurt the sport.
 

Hollywood401k

Semi-Pro
I really don't know why the umpires don't just start warning players from the beginning of the match. Keep it consistent and the behavior doesn't get a chance to take root. And then there's no whining about the strange timing of point violations, it's expected.

A shot clock is just a visible timer, which maybe some purists might dislike. Honestly, the offenders know they're stalling and a clock isn't helping them keep track of time. Consistent umpiring matters.
 

merwy

G.O.A.T.
Nah it's 25sec now, right? I wouldn't make it any shorter than it is now. Some players (Nadal, but also others) already have enough trouble with it as it is.
 

tenisdecente

Hall of Fame
Nah it's 25sec now, right? I wouldn't make it any shorter than it is now. Some players (Nadal, but also others) already have enough trouble with it as it is.

I think it is 20 secs in Grand Slams and 25 in the rest of tournaments
 

citybert

Hall of Fame
Shot clock is the way to go but need to start with challenegrs and juniors first. i think it maybe a lost cause with the seasoned players
 

tenisdecente

Hall of Fame
Shot clock is the way to go but need to start with challenegrs and juniors first. i think it maybe a lost cause with the seasoned players

Only with regular abusers. Those who do not spend a lot of time between points wont even bothered with it. It will get unnoticed for them
 

cbegap

Rookie
They should just have a shot clock. The NBA uses one and has a buzzer on top of that. Either enforce the rule of get rid of it. It is way too subjective as it is now. I honestly can't figure out why they have such a hard time with this one.
 

AngieB

Banned
The time rule has been in existence for years and it is the responsibility of the ATP/WTA/ITF to enforce its rules.

However, as we have seen multiple times throughout the history of tennis pre and post Open Era, players have been give extra time between points by multiple chair umpires for a variety of reasons. (i.e. Late in a 5th set between points after a lengthy rally and both players are gasping for air. They typically take longer than the rule suggests, however, as a courtesy, the chair umpires extend this "pass" so that an innocuous rule violation itself won't be a determining factor of the outcome of a match.)

#********** was heavily criticized by players earlier in his career for purposefully bouncing the ball before serving for longer than the time rule allowed before critical moments of matches to disrupt his opponents rhythm. He was also criticized by other players for using too many MTO during matches for the same reasons. Is that gamesmanship, breaking of the rules or just innocuous, unrelated circumstances out of control of the player? Oddly enough, his behavior changed as he matured.

#Rafael has played the exact same way throughout all of his career. Similarly, #Maria has screeched for the same way her entire career. Would it be an injustice to make a player who has played the same way throughout their professional career to suddenly change their habits to satisfy vigilante tennis fans whose scrupulous motives evolve from hatred? For this reason, no one will ever, or should ever, make #Rafael or #Maria change the way they play the sport.

Praise be and hallelujah.

#AngiesLyst
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The rule looks like a hard rule, but it is interpreted as a soft one. The rule seems to be there to keep the limit to an average of 25 seconds and it seems to work at the ATP level.


Slams don't seem to have as much interest in keeping the game moving and a SERVE clock to start a point is a ridiculous idea outside of FAST4 or other novelty forms of tennis.
 
The time rule has been in existence for years and it is the responsibility of the ATP/WTA/ITF to enforce its rules.

However, as we have seen multiple times throughout the history of tennis pre and post Open Era, players have been give extra time between points by multiple chair umpires for a variety of reasons. (i.e. Late in a 5th set between points after a lengthy rally and both players are gasping for air. They typically take longer than the rule suggests, however, as a courtesy, the chair umpires extend this "pass" so that an innocuous rule violation itself won't be a determining factor of the outcome of a match.)

#********** was heavily criticized by players earlier in his career for purposefully bouncing the ball before serving for longer than the time rule allowed before critical moments of matches to disrupt his opponents rhythm. He was also criticized by other players for using too many MTO during matches for the same reasons. Is that gamesmanship, breaking of the rules or just innocuous, unrelated circumstances out of control of the player? Oddly enough, his behavior changed as he matured.

#Rafael has played the exact same way throughout all of his career. Similarly, #Maria has screeched for the same way her entire career. Would it be an injustice to make a player who has played the same way throughout their professional career to suddenly change their habits to satisfy vigilante tennis fans whose scrupulous motives evolve from hatred? For this reason, no one will ever, or should ever, make #Rafael or #Maria change the way they play the sport.

Praise be and hallelujah.

#AngiesLyst

Pointless drivel, the Umpire would still have discretion of the start of the clock... now their is no question to the time one has on each point.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
No. They got away with something their whole career and it is something they have a conscious control over, so they can easily change but simply refuse.


Would it be an injustice to make a player who has played the same way throughout their professional career to suddenly change their habits to satisfy vigilante tennis fans whose scrupulous motives evolve from hatred?
 

AngieB

Banned
No. They got away with something their whole career and it is something they have a conscious control over, so they can easily change but simply refuse.

Everyone knows #Rafael is a creature of habit. Even to the point of placing his fluid containers on-court. He goes through the same methodical preparation between points as well. No difference. It's just his style of play and people really need to stop with childish drama. Because nothing you say or do in this forum will EVER change the way in which #Rafael plays the game. #EVER


#AngiesLyst
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
He invents a routine only for the court and he extends his routine when it suits him, so if he can extend it he can therefore change it.

And change it by shortening it - which he does when penalised.


Everyone knows #Rafael is a creature of habit
 

AngieB

Banned
the Umpire would still have discretion of the start of the clock... now their is no question to the time one has on each point.
There will never be "time clock" buzzer, et al in the sport of tennis. #EVER. Very poor suggestion.

They rarely enforce bathroom break time limits as it is, unless someone takes an excessive amount of time that prevents the match from re-starting in a timely manner.

I'm sure there are others out there with far better ideas.

#AngiesLyst
 
There will never be "time clock" buzzer, et al in the sport of tennis. #EVER. Very poor suggestion.

They rarely enforce bathroom break time limits as it is, unless someone takes an excessive amount of time that prevents the match from re-starting in a timely manner.

I'm sure there are others out there with far better ideas.

#AngiesLyst

Never said buzzer
 

La Grande

G.O.A.T.
Does Rafa actually take 40 seconds sometimes or do people make that up? I can't imagine 40 seconds man.. thats really long, it never seems THAT long.

Also ,it kinda resets if you miss a first serve right?
 
He invents a routine only for the court and he extends his routine when it suits him, so if he can extend it he can therefore change it.

And change it by shortening it - which he does when penalised.

Yes, Its not a predisposed habit.... laughaBle oBservation by someone...
 

tacou

G.O.A.T.
How is dropping it going to help when the only issue is players going over? What I would do is either enforce it on each and every point (on court shot clock is the only solution here) or just everyone shut up about it. The former seems more productive but I'm always in favor of people shutting up
 
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VexlanderPrime

Guest
How is dropping it going to help when the only issue is players going over? What I would do is either enforce it on each and every point (on court shot clock is the only solution here) or just everyone shut up about it. The former seems more productive but I'm always in favor of people shutting up

Its not the only issue by any means. Pace of play is a serious problem for the sport on TV.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
As a viewer you want to see quick play as you also have faults and nets to endure before a rally may even begin.
 
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