Flexibility makes it harder to run

Bottle Rocket

Hall of Fame
I thought this was interesting->

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0840.htm

Here is most of the article,

In the years before and during my setting up the physiological side of the BOMC, I asked a number of middle-distance running coaches 'What part does flexibility training play in your overall training programme?' A number replied 'Very little, apart from a pre-run warm-up and stretch'. When I asked why they did not advocate specific flexibility work, they answered: 'Because it tends to make the runners slower'. The sadly-missed Harry Wilson, trainer of gold-medallist and world-record holder Steve Ovett, was particularly strong on this point. As I am a firm believer in listening to the observations of the great coaches, I thought seriously about what he had said. Not long after, I came across two interesting and relevant studies.

One was by Gilbert Gleim and colleagues in the orthopaedics department of Lennox Hill Hospital, New York (J. Orthop. Res. 1990. 8; 814-823), who studied the relationship between 11 measures of trunk and lower-limb flexibility and the economy of treadmill walking and running in 100 subjects, aged 20 to 68, of both genders. Based on the combined scores from all the tests, the subjects were allocated to three groups, 'tightest', 'normal' and 'loosest'. They were then tested for walking/jogging economy at six speeds between 53.6 and 187.7 m/min on the treadmill. The 'tightest' third had significantly better (8-12%) walking/running economy than the 'loosest' third. Gilbert Gleim and his colleagues concluded that non-pathological musculo-skeletal tightness was associated with a lowered steady-state oxygen uptake for treadmill walking and jogging, i.e., the less flexible subjects used less oxygen at the given speeds.

The other study was work by Professor McNeill Alexander, the authority on animal (and human) locomotion, well summed up in his New Scientist article in the issue of April 30, 1987. He noted that a typical runner at middle-distance speed loses and regains about 100 Joules of energy at each step. Of this, his work appeared to show that 35 Joules are stored elastically in the Achilles tendon, and 17 Joules in the ligaments of the arch of the foot. In other words, it appears that about half the energy of the running stride comes from muscular work, and the other half from the elastic properties of the collagen in tendon and ligament, which serve as passive springs.

If one integrates the information from these two sources, then one might conclude that runners whose relevant tendons/ligaments are too 'loose' i.e., with possibly too much 'slack' in the system, might not be able to access the full potential of their elastic energy-return system (which appears to be even more important in horses, camels and kangaroos).

Thus when Harry Wilson expressed caution about over-flexibility in his runners, he was possibly intuitively and pragmatically reaching a conclusion which would appear to have a possible scientific basis. If I might adapt a quote from Humphrey Lyttleton, 'we sports scientists often ride in the dungcart of progress, telling the sportsworld the way it has gone'. Either way, the observations of other sports scientists, physiotherapists, coaches and runners would be of interest.

Craig Sharp
Professor of Sports Science, Brunel University
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
Makes sense, in the same way that a stiffer racquet generally has more power and less loss of energy.
 

RedWeb

Semi-Pro
I'm a relative newbie to the game, but I thought a stiffer racket (i.e. higher tension) had less power and more control.
 

OrangeOne

Legend
I thought this was interesting->

Whereas as I think it's scary:

a. Most people are not runners 'at that level', imho anyways
b. People should be careful before cross-applying tennis to running, tennis requires *much* more flexibility.
c. They should be much more careful, imho, when publishing such results. Show me a runner (athelete even) who lacks appropriate flexibility in their ITB, and I'll show you someone wearing an inappropriate groove in their kneecap!. Until *much* more work is done, I'd be on the side of more stretching than not enough (without taking it to stupid gymnast levels).

Marius, where are you? ;)
 

courtrage

Professional
I'm a relative newbie to the game, but I thought a stiffer racket (i.e. higher tension) had less power and more control.

he was talking about frame stiffness not string tension..you are right...tighter strings mean more control...
 

Ko8727

New User
to think that tennis equires more flexibilty than running is flalse, look at the gate of mo green, he runs the 100m dash with 14 strides including starting strides....thats flexibilty
 

maverick66

Hall of Fame
to think that tennis equires more flexibilty than running is flalse, look at the gate of mo green, he runs the 100m dash with 14 strides including starting strides....thats flexibilty

ok but does he do splits while sliding then hit a ball and change directions. hes going straight forward. hes a great runner but he doesnt need to be more flexible then a tennis player. most injuries i see could easly prevented from simple stretching. i strecth 3 times a day for about 15-20 minutes at a time. all the little nagging injuries i had have disappeared.
 

Ko8727

New User
LOL
ur funny, think about that question, tennis players are inately slow because of the quick movements hence the lack of flexibility
 

OrangeOne

Legend
to think that tennis equires more flexibilty than running is flalse, look at the gate of mo green, he runs the 100m dash with 14 strides including starting strides....thats flexibilty

Sounds more like incredible *power* to me. And sure, power requires elastic flexibility, but still - it's not about the 'length' of his leg reach as much as the power he's developing from each contact to propel him a greater distance....imho anyways.
 
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