high schoolers playing usta leagues
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Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
what is country club league ? you mean like you belong to a private club ?
J011yroger
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All the country clubs put together teams and play against each other. It's 5 courts of doubles.
J
li0scc0
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Huh? I'm 45 and have no trouble keeping up with 18 year olds. Physically in far better shape than at 18 when I was just a lazy fast twitch sprinter . Ran a 1:22 half marathon last year at 44 and can still put in a 55 second 400m. If I can stay fit anybody can. Just takes effort and willpower .
D
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nice!
i'm not in that shape anymore, but when i was 40, i remember running 5:45 mile... which was awseome for me, but i also recall getting smoked by a 57y old that ran a 5:15-20
Limpinhitter
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. . . and health.
ChaelAZ
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I hit with high schoolers, juniors, and even the college players. All good for rally ball and practice. Match play is VERY different. At almost 50 now, things just ain't as good as they once wuz, not even as good once as I ever wuz. I do well, but it is NOT the same. Willpower does not overcome some physical issues with again, no matter how much I want it to. And I train more than most.
li0scc0
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Health comes from effort and willpower. Most (not all) mid 40's people can be in excellent health.
D
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agreed, unless you have some sort of genetic defect... health comes from good habits: clean diet, no smoking, minimal drinking, getting enough sleep, moderate exercise (flexibility, strength, cardio, balance), etc...
Limpinhitter
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Are you saying Federer and Nadal have bad habits and no willpower? Good habits and willpower can't regenerate cartilage or repair torn tendons or ligaments. But, if you are keeping the secret to yourself, you might want to consider sharing it with the rest of the World.
li0scc0
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Nadal and Federer are the top two players in the ATP standings. Both are very fit and clearly in excellent health. If they did not have good habits and strong willpower, they would be finished at 30.
Limpinhitter
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You missed the point. Both Federer and Nadal have suffered serious injuries (both acute and chronic), resulting is significant time off of the tour and loss of ranking. There are many more examples of athletes who have exercise both good habits and willpower and yet suffer severe injuries, sometimes career ending injuries.
li0scc0
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And you have missed my entire point. Some on this thread had said it is an accomplished fate that once you hit about 30 you're going to have a potbelly, be slow, etc etc. My point is this need not be the case. Obviously at 45 I don't have the recovery ability I did at 18. Federer and Nadal don't in their 30s, either. But due to improved Fitness they're able to perform at a high level much later than players used to be able to.
Getting older is a reality, there is no Fountain of Youth. However one can perform at a very high level, and can stay incredibly fit far later in life. I realize that for many it's much easier to have a large pizza or fried chicken, and watch TV instead of workout 7 days a week, but with discipline we can stay at a high level for quite a long time.
Limpinhitter
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I got your point. You are missing my point. Last time - good habits and willpower cannot regenerate cartilage and cannot repair torn tendons and ligaments.
D
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part of “good habits” is learning how to move properly and not abuse your body...
probably a lot of weekend warriors here,... not in the best shape, sprinting down balls, ballistic changes of directions,... do that too long and your body rebels
the best habit is to only extend yourself gradually over time... ie running books suggest increasing 10% max every week.
also you’re supposed to be doing restorative work.. if you’re in your 40s it’s like 1hr of restorative work for every hour trained. even the 20 something pros are doing restorative work these days (see coric workouts)
instead, everyone hits the courts like superman, then wonder why the <fill in injury> happened...
i’m guilty of this too..
Limpinhitter
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No matter how good your habits or how strong your willpower, engaging in athletics exposes all athletes to risk of injury, even permanent injury, both acute and degenerative. Further, the longer you engage in athletics, the more likely you are to suffer injury. Moreover, you can also suffer permanent injury slipping in the bathroom while bathing your kids . . . no matter how good your habits or how strong your willpower.
li0scc0
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I finally understand that you mean health to solely mean injury free. I mean health to indicate a low resting heart rate, high level of endurance, low body fat, high level of muscle strength, power to weight ratio, good blood profiles, the propensity to live a long life, etc. That's why I speak of effort, diligence, willpower, as the means to accomplish this.
When we speak of injuries, that's a different matter altogether. Now I see that we were talking past each other, as our definition of health was different (mine was fitness, yours was staying injury free).
I absolutely agree, which is why I cap/play up on a 4.0 team with some of my 3.5 pals who got moved up, and also 8.0 mixed, and plenty of saturday friendlies with higher-skilled players. The area where I live is very adult-league intensive, but very limited tourney oppty's. Therefore, I just don't believe tournaments as the best place for me to play up given the $$ and time commitment of a tourney over the course of a weekend...
