chrischris
G.O.A.T.
Or perhaps its the pride that ignorant people carry their ignorance with ?.. A case of ' As ignorant as we wanna be...'
Or perhaps its the pride that ignorant people carry their ignorance with ?.. A case of ' As ignorant as we wanna be...'
What’s wrong with ignorance? We are all ignorant of something.
Ignorance is bliss.
What is wrong with ignorance is that often problems accumulate and accelarate as a result. Debt is one example of many.
'Ignorance is bliss' is a really more myth than fact , kind of a BS statement imo and many others.
I used to have this close friend. I really liked her....we also both shared the same faith - as someone earlier mentioned "Judeo Christian" ...anyways...she got so caught up in the technicalities of the law so to speak as well as involved with the wrong husband who basically over bombarded her with a lot of "information"...
Anyways...she got so caught up in these things, that she basically disowned her family. I tried to be her friend again...after a while, she tried to get me to know Christ in the "real" way and basically that i didn't know Him as well as she did...as his Name wasn't really Jesus and that his original, non translated name is the only correct way to use it....and even up to the point of where salvation in the technicality of his name is important.
They ended up learning how to can beef, build homes - basically all in preparation of apocalyptic days...but i won't go into that....
The point I am trying to make with people who DO believe:
It is often dangerous when laws, information, opinions and science gets in the way of the simple act of faith. Faith can be tangible, but it is not always measured. There should be left a tolerance for the "abstract". Grace trumps the law...and not the other way around. It is in the understanding of grace, when the true laws of love are kept. Salvation can actually be simpler than we make it at times...
With those who do NOT believe:
Most of the people on this planet, has some form of faith. To everyone a measure of faith has been given. Some starve it, some feed it. Some choose to believe that murder is okay. Some choose to believe that there is a God. Some choose to believe that there isn't...and that is faith also. And then some actually believe that God has his own will and that was to send salvation through his Son - and so that we can find closure to the "who is the real God?" issue.
"What is Truth?" aside, I just think that people should actually consider why so many people DO believe in something at least. There has to be some merit in it.
Personally, i think faith can be the act of putting reasons aside, and the act of love in its place.
"Faith is believing when it is beyond the power of reason to believe."
- Voltaire
I think you are right one should always keep an open mind and be curious to why people think or believe in A ,B or C etc..
Yet i dont think you are able to conclude that because a number of people think something or believe something that should add credibility.
Faith can be force of good , just as science can.
Most believers trust science daily and science is built on theories that so far can stand the rigors of peer review.
The same happens in tennis , the best test each other games and the best prevail. Tennis players put each others understanding of the game to a test and try it , test it to see if it stands up to the stress and opponents game.
Its scary how bad reporting seems to be on science, lots gets shown isnt peer reviewed , its a farce in that they cast doubt and saying 50/50 odds of AGW being a fact, for example.
This is saying some guy who is ranked like 3000 in the world and isnt even active any more still deserves a place in the season ending Barclays event at which normally only the 8 best get to take part. .
But the more we learn the more we also realise what we can do and cant do if we want to maintain a living standard and health we desire.
Yes...this is sort of the point i'm trying to make...that sometimes "learning" would mean humbly accepting our limitations as human beings...on the one side striving for truth no matter the cost, but sometimes accepting that not everything will ever be understood.
I used to have this close friend. I really liked her....we also both shared the same faith - as someone earlier mentioned "Judeo Christian" ...anyways...she got so caught up in the technicalities of the law so to speak as well as involved with the wrong husband who basically over bombarded her with a lot of "information"...
Anyways...she got so caught up in these things, that she basically disowned her family. I tried to be her friend again...after a while, she tried to get me to know Christ in the "real" way and basically that i didn't know Him as well as she did...as his Name wasn't really Jesus and that his original, non translated name is the only correct way to use it....and even up to the point of where salvation in the technicality of his name is important.
They ended up learning how to can beef, build homes - basically all in preparation of apocalyptic days...but i won't go into that....
The point I am trying to make with people who DO believe:
It is often dangerous when laws, information, opinions and science gets in the way of the simple act of faith. Faith can be tangible, but it is not always measured. There should be left a tolerance for the "abstract". Grace trumps the law...and not the other way around. It is in the understanding of grace, when the true laws of love are kept. Salvation can actually be simpler than we make it at times...
With those who do NOT believe:
Most of the people on this planet, has some form of faith. To everyone a measure of faith has been given. Some starve it, some feed it. Some choose to believe that murder is okay. Some choose to believe that there is a God. Some choose to believe that there isn't...and that is faith also. And then some actually believe that God has his own will and that was to send salvation through his Son - and so that we can find closure to the "who is the real God?" issue.
"What is Truth?" aside, I just think that people should actually consider why so many people DO believe in something at least. There has to be some merit in it.
Personally, i think faith can be the act of putting reasons aside, and the act of love in its place.
"Faith is believing when it is beyond the power of reason to believe."
- Voltaire
98.5% of inmates in jail for violent crimes consider themselves "very religious". The remaining 1.5% are 'other', undecided, agnostic or atheists. Fact.
As comedian Adam Corolla once said; "If I was sitting next to someone that has a loaded gun, I'd rather them be guided by their own internal code rather than what some book told them they should or shouldn't do".
Serial Killers are generally very religious, or became much more so right before they began their sprees. Fact.
If I can at all avoid religious people, I do so like I would the plague.
As far as the world ending? Maybe. Who knows? I'm more concerned with the coming crash of the Dollar when it loses Reserve Currency status, which IS what I have prepared for. As someone who deals in global economics, finance, currency trading, etc., and deal with people, daily, who are in several countries around the world, I see The Real World - not the make-believe story the government shovels out to presstitutes to shovel out to the sheeple nation to keep them calm.
But if there is a panic or a good catastrophe that the government can benefit from with the 2012 Doomsday, be sure they'll take advantage of it to gain more control over a gullible population.
I used to have this close friend. I really liked her....we also both shared the same faith - as someone earlier mentioned "Judeo Christian" ...anyways...she got so caught up in the technicalities of the law so to speak as well as involved with the wrong husband who basically over bombarded her with a lot of "information"...
Anyways...she got so caught up in these things, that she basically disowned her family. I tried to be her friend again...after a while, she tried to get me to know Christ in the "real" way and basically that i didn't know Him as well as she did...as his Name wasn't really Jesus and that his original, non translated name is the only correct way to use it....and even up to the point of where salvation in the technicality of his name is important.
They ended up learning how to can beef, build homes - basically all in preparation of apocalyptic days...but i won't go into that....
The point I am trying to make with people who DO believe:
It is often dangerous when laws, information, opinions and science gets in the way of the simple act of faith. Faith can be tangible, but it is not always measured. There should be left a tolerance for the "abstract". Grace trumps the law...and not the other way around. It is in the understanding of grace, when the true laws of love are kept. Salvation can actually be simpler than we make it at times...
With those who do NOT believe:
Most of the people on this planet, has some form of faith. To everyone a measure of faith has been given. Some starve it, some feed it. Some choose to believe that murder is okay. Some choose to believe that there is a God. Some choose to believe that there isn't...and that is faith also. And then some actually believe that God has his own will and that was to send salvation through his Son - and so that we can find closure to the "who is the real God?" issue.
"What is Truth?" aside, I just think that people should actually consider why so many people DO believe in something at least. There has to be some merit in it.
Personally, i think faith can be the act of putting reasons aside, and the act of love in its place.
"Faith is believing when it is beyond the power of reason to believe."
- Voltaire
Interesting.....
"The Mayans, Coronal Mass Ejection and the End of the World as We Know It."
"According to Mayan prophecy the year 2012 has a special significance. In June of 2012 one of the rarest astronomical events occurred. Venus passed directly between the Sun and Earth heralding, on December 21, 2012, "the end" and the return of the “feathered snake God” Kukulcan. The question on the minds of many: “The end of what?” The world and/or all of mankind? Elders, Mayan and Hopi, believe the "end" is not necessarily the end of the world but rather the end of an era – a transformation. The elders explanation doesn't offer much clarification. Is it a physical transformation, a spiritual transformation or perhaps both? Mainstream scholars have not “bought into” the prognostications put forth by the Mayans and others - but what do mainstream scholars have to say about current known threats to planet earth?"
Full Article:
http://larsonewhipsnadee.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-mayans-coronal-mass-ejection-and.html
So what else is new under the sun? The sun goes though a well-documented 11-year sunspot cycle that is driven by its magnetic field entangling, reforming and flipping polarity. Yes, the peak of the next cycle is in 2012 (or 2013), and some predictions suggest it might be 30 to 50 percent stronger than the last peak.
But experts say it will certainly not be the biggest peak ever recorded.
The bottom line is that no dragon's breath of flame will stretch across 100 million miles of space and blowtorch Earth. The largest solar flare recorded to date, on Nov. 4, 2003, spewed several billions of tons of plasma in Earth's direction. The flare's X-ray radiation that impacted our protective atmosphere had the equivalent radiation of 5,000 suns.
We're still here.
I like how you associate non-believers with murderers, as if only non-believers are bad people. But, there is a massive hole in your argument.
If you consider the number of bad things that happen around the world, including murder, then there are two possible explanations: either people with faith are committing horrible acts or the large number of horrible acts is evidence that there are very few people with faith.
So, either faith isn't the act of putting love in the place or reason or very few people have faith and thus it does not have merit based on widespread practice as you claim.
Sort of an odd question, figured you might be one to check it out. (I asked my history prof who major'd in Religious History this one, and she was stumped!)
Why should one care about faith? It's not the issue of "believing" or "non believing" but why should one care/have interest in the first place?
Figured it might be a interesting little thought anyone here to check out! :razz:
-Fuji
Ok, good. It is quite clear that everything has a limit. A budget.
If we go far in a negative sense , we get into a 'hole' and its hard to get back up. If we go too far , i.e. beyond a certain point, a tipping point, we cant come back.
Do you agree?
To some extent, yes, but more so no.
Our "measurements", do not comply to supernatural measurements. Time for example, is not something the Creator would be limited to. So we should be careful to limit grace. When something Supernatural and limitless comes into the situation, power to escape the black hole, would be possible.
Does this mean I can call in sick to work?
Does this mean I can call in sick to work?
By 'more so no' are you implying you feel its wise and responsable to t rely on the support of 'supernatural' influences to determine the outcomes rather than those we can measure and impact?
Well...trust can be something that grows. We have not been left 100% blind. To everyone a measure of faith is given and some part of us, needs to be wise, another part should trust and use faith. As we step out and do things in faith, the trust grows.
Ok, but please answer my question and i will receive that in good faith and my trust may then grow.
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By 'more so no' are you implying you feel its wise and responsable to t rely on the support of 'supernatural' influences to determine the outcomes rather than those we can measure and impact?
If the supernatural influences are based on constants such as goodness and love - yes. If not, no. How do we know if the supernatural is good? We can test practically through relationship, and the already built in faith given us.....the rest will need to be done in faith - a hearts decision, much like the automatic leap of faith a bird does as it leaves the nest. We can either nurture or starve the faith we do have. I would rather choose a God willing to die for my attention, than one who demands attention. Salvation is given more than it is earned. A God who owes us nothing, who has no reason to be humble, showed true example of humility and sacrifice. I want the same humility, for pride makes one fall and the humble will be lifted.
We were placed on this earth not just to live in faith, but to live in action also. Action often proves faith. We have to partially let go and just believe, yet, in the same breath, make a decision to believe ourselves and take action. It is what we choose to do with the little we know, and the amount of faith we have now. Sometimes, we need to look at the signs.Sometimes we can have control and influence, and sometimes things are out of our control and influence. It is a draw near to the Creator and the Creator will draw near to you kind of thing. The more we get closer, the more we will realise just how unmeasurable the 'supernatural' is, but we will at least get more of a grasp of the scale of things. Our worth and potential is multiplied when we do not try and do everything ourselves.
Most of this sounds ok.
How do you make it happen?
It looks to me it isnt. Why not?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...298dd0-3023-11e2-a30e-5ca76eeec857_story.html
its getting hotter twice as fast as the worst predictions had expected..
time to cut carbon emissions , or kiss a healthy future bye-bye.
On this earth, we are supposed to be responsible. The article just shows how little we are. I think civilization can basically be compared to a credit card. We buy now, and pay later....not realizing the consequences in time. As individuals, we can actually make a difference. Switching off a light globe not in use, may not sound as much if one person do it...but if millions do it, it makes a difference. The problem is that we are blunt and do not care enough. We selfishly "buy now" and will probably "pay later"
Will the world perish? Probably...no matter what we do to try and prevent it...(we should do what we can though) - and maybe focus more on things that really matter....extreme poverty vs. extreme wealth, is problematic for me...it is making us more and more selfish, and less and less concerned of those who do struggle.
So many of us, are hectically wealthy, yet we want more and more...strangling earth and people around us for our own selfish wants. If we can learn to be content with the wealth we do actually have, we will take less .
“Do what is right, though the world may perish”. Immanuel Kant
"Heaven and earth shall pass, but my words shall not pass"
Ok, but we are NOT born blunt and selfish.
We are born to be fair and democratic.
We are born with natural elements good or bad. From thereon, we are "trained" to do certain things...and also, "decide" certain things for ourselves.
Some choose to be republican heheh
We are born to cooperate. Thats the reason we can survive and sit here today.
There are other things we do but the evidence and fact is we are born to cooperate and as a result of that we are born to make decisions that are democratic.
I agree....we are not meant to be doing everything ourselves.
"it is not good for man to be alone"
What proof do you have to show this?
When you get ill, it would be wise not to deal with it yourself. A second person such as a doctor may be required. An individual, simply cannot have all the skills to cope with life as a whole. Somewhere along the line, being alone can only deal with so much.