Is this serve too wristy?

ChimpChimp

Semi-Pro
I was having internal shoulder rotation in my mind when doing this, but the footage looks like a badminton smash. I see an acceleration of racquet head by the wrist.

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Curious

G.O.A.T.
What is a wristy serve? Like arming a forehand?
Your whole body is engaged nicely. How can it be wristy?
 

PRS

Semi-Pro
I think it actually looks pretty good. The one thing I would mention would be to extend your follow through to finish across your body. Right now you're stopping your arm when it's directly in front of you, but you should let your arm go all the way through. It'll put less strain on your body from having to unnaturally slow down your arm (bigger deal when you start swinging faster) and will also help you more consistently accelerate through the ball.
 

jz000

Semi-Pro
Your wrist appears to be stronger than using pronation, so your brain will automatically use what's stronger.

Take out everything but the arm, and try to do it 'correctly'.
Choke the racket if you have to.
 

Bagumbawalla

G.O.A.T.
Yes, your wrist action does seem a bit "forced". Relax your wrist, don't try to muscle that motion.
Yes, you also pause/stop your natural arm motion rather than allow it following-through.
Also, you seem to be holding yourself back a bit rather than allowing your body motion
to move forward into the court.
 
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ppma

Professional
Stopping the arm nstead of letting it follow is going to cause you overload problems on the forearm and even shoulder. Been there.

I mostly agree with everything the above poster says.
 

jimmy8

Legend
Yes, don't use your wrist and just follow through with your arm. Your overall health will be better in the long run.
 

nyta2

Hall of Fame
interesting, i would have thought, "no",...
just needs to also follow through via bending the elbow, and rotating through with the upper body. (eg. allow the racquet tip to whip, but still dissapate the momentum over a longer runway (wrist bend, elbow bend, torso rotation, arm drop....)
the kid looks like he might be isolating that wrist bend part, but i wouldn't have told him to stop doing it (just add the other elements)
discuss!
 

coolvinny

Rookie
As long as your wrist doesn’t hurt, I think it’s fine.
I sometimes have a similar finish which I’m trying to eradicate from my game. I started noticing some wrist discomfort as my serve improved and my serve speeds went up. It seems to happen more on the deuce side - on the ad side I do a better job fully pronating the forearm unit outwards with a stable wrist.
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
I mean, to me it isn't. And if you watch how loose Djo's wrist is on serve, that isn't a bad thing. I assume you feel it isn't gett all the power you want? If so, to me you might focus on a little more forward contact point with that same exact stroke motion and technique.
 
Kind of hard to tell exactly where your toss is from the camera angle, but it's either too far back, or you're somehow managing to fall backward on a toss that isn't too far back. Either way, you gotta fix that before thinking about what your wrist is doing.
 
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