Kyrgios withdraws from French Open

sredna42

Hall of Fame
If you look at the last few singles matches he's played, two of them have been losses to Zverev. Of course he doesn't see Zverev as any competition to himself, yet Zverev is succeeding and getting all the attention. This would be a quiet drip doing all the damage in Nick's head since around this time last year when Zverev won Rome. Two more losses and more Zverev success - definitely damaging IMHO.

And as for that match Vs Dimitrov at the AO, he should definitely have beaten Dimitrov after the way he destroyed Dimitrov in the Brisbane final. That tournament had me and quite a few others thinking he could win the AO. Seems crazy now but he was playing spectacular tennis.

Kyrgios is too lacking in real life experience to see how monumentally stupid he is in his career-related decision making. His family have cloistered him. He's not that different to Tomic in that respect. He'll only take advice from people he "respects", and I doubt Blake is one of those, however good it might be for him to get some perspective from people like Blake, Hewitt etc who climbed the mountain multiple times.

The really crazy thing is he has all the weaponry to succeed on clay too, but it's just too much hard work.

I'm sure all you're saying has some element in this all, and I am sure he is more than deficient in many ways character wise, but I honestly believe his issue is what I, and Alba Barragan above, are saying. It is some issue in his head to do with losing, the "I don't care enough to even really be here" is his plausible excuse card in case he loses.

He really needs a mental circuit breaker, some way to relieve all the pressure and expectation off himself. Or some way to escape this identity he has made for himself which has turned into like a prison. Maybe just go as dark as possible and just slowly chug around the lower tournaments to get the feeling of how to win again, get some confidence, but with his head down, then just be that guy you didn't notice get through to R4 of the USO because he did it so quietly and boringly. giving the media nothing, they'll move onto zverev or djokovic or someone else. I dunno, just throwing ideas out there. Maybe get Magnus "the head doctor" Norman on his team?

McEnroe as his coach was a horrible idea, it would have been a nuclear circus on meth.

But nothing will happen, he'll just repeat the same patterns then go down the drain, and will be just another "could have been" that will be eventually forgotten.

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I dunno, maybe even start playing for Malaysia(?) where his mother comes from to escape the Australian Media, who are like feral terminator hyenas that never stop.
 

Zebrev

Hall of Fame
I think Tonic deserves a bit of good luck. He's extremely talented, and just gets attacked all the time because of it.
 

accidental

Hall of Fame
Kyrgios is highly over rated

He is 23 and hasn't really done anything except a few big wins here and there. Total of 15 wins over top 10 players all up.

His career stats in his first 5 years are on or with players like Gasquet and Monfils, they're miles away from the big 4 or even players like Raonic or Tsonga.

He will need to drastically improve to live up to the hype he gets round here, but he may have already peaked.
 

Boom-Boom

Legend
Perhaps the ITF should also give some sort of penalty for those that withdraw after the draw has been made.
It is more tolerable at 250/500 but not at the Slams.
Clearly Kyrgios knew beforehand whether he would play or not.

Exactly and he just won a 250 dubs tournament in Lyon last week playing 4 or 5 matches so plenty of time to test his body :rolleyes:
 

Plamen1234

Hall of Fame
It's all mental. He's humiliated that Zverev has overtaken him and he's panicking. Also, for whatever psychological reason he CBF doing the work required to a) rehab injuries and b) avoid them.

I agree.Kyrgios is behind Zverev and the distance between them is getting bigger and bigger every month.Kyrgios is already 23 - if he doesnt do anything big in the next 1,2 years then you can write him off.He wont be late boomer like Stan
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
And when his gf lost.... no doubt quick beach time plans were made.

Not a fan of the extreme FH grip he and many other younger players use. Wonder if that with the unforgiving poly strings are responsible for a lot of the wrist/elbow/shoulder issues.

Hope he’s able to play the grass season. And tries.

Yeah, no doubt that sealed the deal for Kyrgios.
 

yokied

Hall of Fame
I remember early last year Nick was asked about Zverev and he was very quick to start talking about their H2H and how he had defeated him 'comfortably' in all their matches until then. That was his first comment when asked to address the progress of Zverev o_O He also said in another interview later that year he wasn't going to deny he was jealous of Z for his recent results and his compromise to train as much, but that he still was leading the H2H so he had the upper hand.

I remember both those remarks, and it's clear that he does view Zverev as one of the measuring sticks for his performance, and how important H2H is for Nick. Zverev has won three of their last four matches, and has won some 1000s (however weak the fields were is irrelevant). Nick has injuries and a 250.

I'm sure all you're saying has some element in this all, and I am sure he is more than deficient in many ways character wise, but I honestly believe his issue is what I, and Alba Barragan above, are saying. It is some issue in his head to do with losing, the "I don't care enough to even really be here" is his plausible excuse card in case he loses ... He really needs a mental circuit breaker ... I dunno, maybe even start playing for Malaysia(?) where his mother comes from to escape the Australian Media, who are like feral terminator hyenas that never stop.

The way I see it is we're all in broad agreement here about Kyrgios' psychological state. I agree he has broad performance anxiety and has coping mechanisms as you describe. All I'm saying is that the Zverev rivalry really does sum it all up and given the chasm between their respective successes and work ethics (and given Kyrgios is the far better player), IMHO all this would weigh on his mind very heavily.

All this said, pretty much all tennis players have this and they learn how to cope with it fairly early on in their elite career. I've seen it written here on these boards before and I think it sums up Kyrgios well: the fact that he has made it to the top 20 with all these issues is a testament to his talents.

I sorta agree on the mental circuit-breaker. I'm Australian and I can't stand the way our media has behaved towards top players going back to Hewitt, Scud, Rafter, Tomic etc. They're desperate to rebuild the profile of the sport here with a megastar. Hewitt was nearly it but the injuries and abrasive attitude killed him. Playing for another country isn't how I'd do it. BTW I thought his Mum was Filipino but whatevs. Tennis Australia isn't the problem in the case of Tomic and Kyrgios and any other under-performing player.

I think he needs a break from the game to just work on his fitness and rehab. Like take the whole rest of the year off. Sign a steady fitness coach and tennis coach. Go travelling for a few months, rest, then around September go to work. Hell, if he really wants to pretend to think he can be a basketballer, then give that a real try and if it doesn't come off, come back to tennis. Something ridiculous like that might finally prove to him how crap his decision making is and to stop taking his talents for granted, like what reality TV hopefully has done for Tomic.
 
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