Continue to be in denial my friend. You guys caught a break last year with Wimbledon being cancelled and a Dq.
Continue to be in denial my friend. You guys caught a break last year with Wimbledon being cancelled and a Dq.
Do you believe that the original Sewretch shrine has been eclipsed by its successor?At least Nadal is guaranteed one Slam per year but Federer has no alternative but to be eclipsed by Djokovic.
I think djoker will last longer than nadal overall.At least Nadal is guaranteed one Slam per year but Federer has no alternative but to be eclipsed by Djokovic.
Djoker will just win both Wimbledon’s and move onto to 21 in new yorkLet's play 2 Wimbledons this year.
Winner of each Wimbledon final faces off against Berdych in an exhibition on grass (where he has bageled Nadal and Federer) and if Tomas wins he takes your entire slam count as well as Wimbledon.
No pressure.
Djoker will just win both Wimbledon’s and move onto to 21 in new york
How is it going to end?It’s just a matter of time. Spin however you would like but you all know how this is going to end.
The One Above All has spoken. I believe we can End the Thread.At least Nadal is guaranteed one Slam per year but Federer has no alternative but to be eclipsed by Djokovic.
Lol. The alternative metric. The Olympic Gold puts Nadal top of the pile and elevates Agassi up to 4th.Nadal lags a lot....
but yes, novak can cross federer in future.
Actual GOAT Race
Grand Slams + WTF indoor wins + Years ended as Rank 1
01. Federer (20+6+5) = 31
02. Djokovic (18+5+6) = 29
03. Sampras (14+5+6) = 25
04. Nadal (20+0+5) = 25
05. Lendl (8+5+4) = 17
06. Borg (11+2+2) = 15
07. McEnroe (7+3+4) = 14
08. Connors (8+1+5) = 14
09. Agassi (8+1+1) = 10
10. Edberg (6+1+2) = 09
11. Becker (6+3+0) = 09
12. Wilander (7+0+1) = 08
Yeah. We are sure. The last time the Serb was on the lawn he played probably the most clutch match of all time. I doubt Roger comes close to the final this season. It’s nole’s world and it best you accept that. You won’t get a cancellation this year on the lawnAre we sure of this? Tomas made the Serb quit the last time they met on the fabled lawns of Wimbledon.
Yeah. We are sure. The last time the Serb was on the lawn he played probably the most clutch match of all time. I doubt Roger comes close to the final this season. It’s nole’s world and it best you accept that. You won’t get a cancellation this year on the lawn
Djoker will still be winning slams longer than nadal does in ParisThe One Above All has spoken. I believe we can End the Thread.
Today proved why The WTF do not matter in a GOAT debate. The pressure is not there and the very best are not always invested in it.Nadal lags a lot....
but yes, novak can cross federer in future.
Actual GOAT Race
Grand Slams + WTF indoor wins + Years ended as Rank 1
01. Federer (20+6+5) = 31
02. Djokovic (18+5+6) = 29
03. Sampras (14+5+6) = 25
04. Nadal (20+0+5) = 25
05. Lendl (8+5+4) = 17
06. Borg (11+2+2) = 15
07. McEnroe (7+3+4) = 14
08. Connors (8+1+5) = 14
09. Agassi (8+1+1) = 10
10. Edberg (6+1+2) = 09
11. Becker (6+3+0) = 09
12. Wilander (7+0+1) = 08
So we aren't sure then. Agreed. We need the show match.
Doubt it. Nadal is so far ahead of the rest on clay he can win there for the next 5 years. He does not even drop sets!!Djoker will still be winning slams longer than nadal does in Paris
Doesn’t lose sets? He has already lost to the GOAt before in paris. Yeah this is wrong on 5 more years. Nadal has maybe 2 more in those legs. That’s itDoubt it. Nadal is so far ahead of the rest on clay he can win there for the next 5 years. He does not even drop sets!!
I am sure and you will be soon. He has been the best overall now for a decade. Will end as the GOAT as well
Did you miss FO 2020 in Djokovic conditions?Doesn’t lose sets? He has already lost to the GOAt before in paris. Yeah this is wrong on 5 more years. Nadal has maybe 2 more in those legs. That’s it
One tourney in which djoker was coming off a disaster event in New York and being out with Covid for awhile? Djoker is going to end with more. It’s best you learn to accept itDid you miss FO 2020 in Djokovic conditions?
Djokovic will end with more than nadal as well. He will also have head to head on bothI don't believe in a mythical title. To me all 3 of them at their best are separated by razor thin margins aside from the Clay of course.
Now if you want me to believe Nadal and Djokovic will surpass Federers count then that's no problem - in fact I've believed that since 2016.
Djokovic will end with more than nadal as well. He will also have head to head on both
Lol. The alternative metric. The Olympic Gold puts Nadal top of the pile and elevates Agassi up to 4th.
Graf 1988 is lauded so high because she got the CYGS and OG. I have no clue her YEC record.People used to skip the Olympics you know.
It is not at all useful ...
It's possible. French Open monopoly would have to end though. Djokovic likely won't get any favors from anyone else any time soon in ending that. He'd have to be the one to do it.
Graf 1988 is lauded so high because she got the CYGS and OG. I have no clue her YEC record.
Not Serena. Navratilova has an argument but so does Evert. Graf 1988 best year of any tennis player.Graf is no GOAT, she was helped by some mad fan who took out Seles.
Serena, Martina are the real GOATs.
But Sureshs will be Crystal Gazing longer than eitherDjoker will still be winning slams longer than nadal does in Paris
Masters titles should be above OG and included in GOAT criteria.Lol. The alternative metric. The Olympic Gold puts Nadal top of the pile and elevates Agassi up to 4th.
Not Serena. Navratilova has an argument but so does Evert. Graf 1988 best year of any tennis player.
You've been absolute dynamite today mate haha.Let's play 2 Wimbledons this year.
Winner of each Wimbledon final faces off against Berdych in an exhibition on grass (where he has bageled Nadal and Federer) and if Tomas wins he takes your entire slam count as well as Wimbledon.
No pressure.
I question her early slams i felt were gifted to her by Venus. I know that sounds harsh but i just felt early in their career there was a bit of nepotismWhy not Serena ?
23 Slams in the modern era is no joke.
She has won a lot of slams in her 30s too.....
You've been absolute dynamite today mate haha.
Whichever way it ends, it's fine by me. Hell, I'd probably miss even Nadal if he were to retire tomorrow.
Can't you imagine the tennis scene when these guys retire? I saw that 2020 USO final and the future of the sport is pretty damn bleak.
Just trying to entertain after that final lol - though I wanted Djokovic to win myself of course.
Do wish it was a bit more dramatic but ah well. Congrats
The next slam is the Djokovic Open.Sorry SR. It's almost the French though do not worry ( I know you will worry but I had to say it)
I love tennis as a sport and enjoy playing but I struggle to see myself watching when the Big 3 are done. It's going to be rough.
My issue is I just can't seem to genuinely like or root for any younger player. They're all missing something for me.
Not sure if it's because I'm becoming an old man or what. But I don't think that's it.
It's a probably a combination of several things, it's hard to pinpoint exactly. Doesn't matter at the end of the day, the result is the same.
All I know is had Novak lost to Zverev for example and the final was Med-Zverev I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be getting up on Sunday morning to watch two tall, gangly pushers play 40 stroke rallies and trying their damnest to out-choke one another. Now maybe that doesn't make me a "real" tennis fan but I don't really give a crap lol. All I care is about being entertained.
That I'll continue playing the game goes without question but that's different to closely following the sport.
I'll fully admit I'm not a real tennis fan if that's the criteria. Federer is what made me a tennis fan. I have a sneaking suspicion he did that for many people that would not care less about tennis otherwise. Definitely came to appreciate Rafa and Novak as well, but without Federer I'd never have gotten into the sport. Plain and simple. So I guess I'm not surprised my commitment to the sport after that is in doubt.