low heel to toe drop shoes? HELP!

Bobo96

Semi-Pro
Hey all. I just bought a pair of the nike zoom max shoes, and I believe the zhoes have a high heel to toe drop. Is there any shoes with a very low heel to toe drop. they're bothering my achilles a bit. I cant find stats anywhere.
 

WildVolley

Legend
The New Balance Minimus shoe just released has been listed as having a 4mm heel-to-toe drop. That's the lowest I know of.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Pardon my ignorance.
I use arch support insoles in all my tennis shoes, Superfeet Greens, Purples, Max, SofSols, SoleUltra, and several other's, and all RAISE my heel much more than the stock inserts.
With the raised heel, there is less strain on my ankles, Achilles specifically, and less strain on my calf muscles.
You stated the opposite.
 

Bobo96

Semi-Pro
Pardon my ignorance.
I use arch support insoles in all my tennis shoes, Superfeet Greens, Purples, Max, SofSols, SoleUltra, and several other's, and all RAISE my heel much more than the stock inserts.
With the raised heel, there is less strain on my ankles, Achilles specifically, and less strain on my calf muscles.
You stated the opposite.

maybe. Honestly I am probably a bit(a lot) paranoid. I have been going thru 9 months of upper body injuries, and am back on court doing a lot of footwork drills (not much upper body involved). The slight sorness of my right achilles could be more due to the added intensity after being absent so long, rather than the shoe. I just know some big fitness guys like Kelly starett, are very against higher heels, and some people have contributed them to achilles tendonitis. But idk, like I said im a bit paranoid. Maybe the Nike Air aren't any higher than most other shoes.
 

Chezbeeno

Professional
I know Nike Free 3.0 also has a 4mm drop, but again, that's about the lowest I'm familiar with, unless you maybe went the Vibram route?
 

slewisoh

Semi-Pro
I cannot answer your question directly but I do question the rationale of seeking essentially a flat shoe when you have Achilles pain. All of the professional advice I've ever received regarding my cranky achilles and calves has been to elevate the heel.

I wore the old school Barricade II for years but the newer versions seemed to get higher and wider through the heels as the years went on. At some point it started feeling like I was playing tennis in my wedge sandals. Switched to the Asics Resolution because they have a lower to the ground feeling but I use an orthotic and small heel lift to relieve strain.
 

WildVolley

Legend
I cannot answer your question directly but I do question the rationale of seeking essentially a flat shoe when you have Achilles pain. All of the professional advice I've ever received regarding my cranky achilles and calves has been to elevate the heel.

Yes, as a short-term solution, dropping the heel will stress and stretch the Achilles.

However, I support going to low heel shoes as a long-term solution. The only studies I've seen of Achilles and heel height suggest that women who often wear heels have shrunken muscles and thicker Achilles tendons. I believe you can reverse this effect by walking in flat shoes or going barefoot as much as possible.

As I've argued before. Lifting the heel in a shoe actually puts the foot in an unathletic position. The offsetting benefit is not that it "keeps you on your toes" but that there is more padding under the heel for heel striking. It is easier to stay on your toes if your shoe either has a flat sole or actually has a higher toe lift (which I don't think makes sense, but was the selling feature of the famous 'earth shoes.')
 

volley collie

New User
Adidas Ambition - I think they're a few years old but there are still some around.

Hardly any drop, close to the ground, great sole, leather upper, no nonsense. I love them. They're what the new minimalist-type shoes will evolve into in three years time. ie. halfway between them and the over-supported clamp-like shoes we're told we need for tennis. I don't move well in those super-padded, supported type shoe. I'm lighter on my feet and have less aches.
 

courtrage

Professional
Head sprint pro was good and fila sentinel was a good shoe but had extra heel. the white/red wilson rush pro page says it has a 6mm drop in the description. on new balance site the description for new balance 996 says it has a 12mm drop. i should add that the 996 feels low to the ground but on lunges/heel strikes i really feel it. in the head sprint pro i didnt feel anything jarring. i didnt feel anything in the sentinel as well and they do ride higher than the sprint pro and 996 as i mentioned.
 
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jelle v

Hall of Fame
Don't know the numbers, but it seems to me that the Nike Zoom Vapor Tour 9.5's have a very low heel to toe drop..?

With the Max in the heel you are likely to have a high heel to toe drop. Bit surprised that you boght these shoes when low heel to toe drop is so important to you.. :confused:
 

WildVolley

Legend
Don't know the numbers, but it seems to me that the Nike Zoom Vapor Tour 9.5's have a very low heel to toe drop..?

With the Max in the heel you are likely to have a high heel to toe drop. Bit surprised that you boght these shoes when low heel to toe drop is so important to you.. :confused:

According to this thread, in which newyorkstadium was actually measuring stack height, the ZVT 9.5 has a drop of over 1cm (12mm).

The NB MC60 is still the leader with a measured drop of 6mm (though the spec on the shoe says it should be 4mm). That does come with reduced cushioning versus other shoes, but I find them fine for my healthy feet. They are fairly minimal, so I'd advise reading my review if you aren't using them on clay.
 

jelle v

Hall of Fame
According to this thread, in which newyorkstadium was actually measuring stack height, the ZVT 9.5 has a drop of over 1cm (12mm).

The NB MC60 is still the leader with a measured drop of 6mm (though the spec on the shoe says it should be 4mm). That does come with reduced cushioning versus other shoes, but I find them fine for my healthy feet. They are fairly minimal, so I'd advise reading my review if you aren't using them on clay.

Oh wow.. it sure doesn't feel like 12mm..

I know that appearance from the outside doesn't say everything, but really??

nike-zoom-vapor-tour-9-5-polarized-blue-00.jpg
 

WildVolley

Legend
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