Like I said, personal preference. If I hear those clocks and cash register songs from that album I am going to start saying Nadal is a serve and volleyer. PF was a little bit before me but the more I listen to it the more trite it gets. I am pretty sure it was good then when it came out.
Man, music just ain't what it used to be...
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Like I said, personal preference. If I hear those clocks and cash register songs from that album I am going to start saying Nadal is a serve and volleyer. PF was a little bit before me but the more I listen to it the more trite it gets. I am pretty sure it was good then when it came out.
It was good then, and it's good now. You've got a lot of nerve to say that. You have no faith to lose and you know it.
Here's the thing though: The cash register song ("Money" I think? It's hard me to think of other songs names and melodies when "Positively 4th Street" is blaring while I type this) is not that great. And here's my own special Pink Floyd theory/pet peeve/belief, and I have a helping hand to lend them. They made a mistake. The song "Money" really belongs on their inferior "The Wall" album, while the awesome "Comfortably Numb" really should have been on Dark Side. It's a shame this is not the case, nothing short of a musical travesty. I feel they let me down, and if I was a master thief I'd rob the master recordings and swap them.
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Just burn a cd from your collection and make your own Pink Floyd playlist called The Other Side of the Wall.
VivalaVida
Banned
It all depends on your perspective IMO.
Don't think I won't! Still, I feel bad for others. I wish for just one time they could stand inside my shoes and know what a drag it is that they screwed their albums up.
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David_Is_Right
Semi-Pro
Sorry, I wouldn't normally interject like this, but every act you mentioned is objectively, undeniably and incontrovertibly dreadful.
David_Is_Right
Semi-Pro
Marilyn Manson is by far the worst live act when compared to record sales I've ever seen.
adams_1
Semi-Pro
SempreSami
Hall of Fame
Except Money reflects upon the themes of Dark Side of the Moon while Comfortably Numb is part of the concept behind the character Pink.
chess9
Hall of Fame
I listen to just about everything, though some of the gangsta' rap doesn't do much for me. Musicians are all thieves, but in the good sense of the word and no one owns a note.
For example, few 66 year olds, let alone few Americans, would listen to this artist:http://viralvideochart.unrulymedia.com/youtube/gdragon__heartbreaker_official_mv_hq?id=LOXEVd-Z7NE
Or, this one: http://viralvideochart.unrulymedia.com/youtube/2009_kings_of_leon_vancouver?id=h1aOAsJ9EsA
Why listen to such diverse music?
Change is all there is. If you aren't changing, you aren't living. You WILL grow old and/or die, but why stagnate? Push the envelope, don't lick it and seal it SHUT.
-Robert
For example, few 66 year olds, let alone few Americans, would listen to this artist:http://viralvideochart.unrulymedia.com/youtube/gdragon__heartbreaker_official_mv_hq?id=LOXEVd-Z7NE
Or, this one: http://viralvideochart.unrulymedia.com/youtube/2009_kings_of_leon_vancouver?id=h1aOAsJ9EsA
Why listen to such diverse music?
Change is all there is. If you aren't changing, you aren't living. You WILL grow old and/or die, but why stagnate? Push the envelope, don't lick it and seal it SHUT.
-Robert
Am I wrong, or did music stop evolving in the late 90s? That is kinda where I settled in as far as the most memorable music for me since I was in high school during that time, but I don't feel like its changed much since then, aside from just a huge number of new bands over the years that play the same type of music, and this seems to apply to all the genres.
check out mars volta. i don't think they're god's gift, but they've got an interesting melting pot going on.
this year Clutch's new album blew me away and Alice in Chains are releasing a new one. If two new albums a year blow me away I'm happy. Baroness' first album was great too, and Kylesa are fun, Taint too, so there's a little scene I enjoy going on based loosely around stoner rock.
I think a lot of the great music emerges later.
BUT one of the problems is that the utter lack of profit to be made from albums now means you have to be in the know of the music you like, locally, or through friends' tip-offs, in order to find what you want. the bands are out there putting their money into touring and t-shirts not albums and promotion. radio is a dead scene for great new music that isn't designed with mass appeal in mind.
Terr
Semi-Pro
Hey hey. Don't cry for my generation just yet. It's not the music that's bad, it's the taste for music that has changed dramatically and for the worse.
Why don't you dig around for low key guys with beards and guitars, eating corn dogs to save money to fuel their VW's across America?
Jeremy Messersmith springs to mind. Iron & Wine. Jose Gonzales.
Higher profile bands: Sigur Ros. Mogwai. Radiohead.
Tom Petty/Beach Boys fans see Jack's Mannequin.
Diversity freaks should turn to Michael Franti & Spearhead.
I for one am recently listening to a lot of Lennon (Hate Beatles. Love Lennon.) The Doors never gets old either. James Morrison is GOD. And The Cure makes for nice sunny afternoon music too.
And I hear Morrisey is around these days. Or someone really enjoys sticking posters of him everywhere.
Why don't you dig around for low key guys with beards and guitars, eating corn dogs to save money to fuel their VW's across America?
Jeremy Messersmith springs to mind. Iron & Wine. Jose Gonzales.
Higher profile bands: Sigur Ros. Mogwai. Radiohead.
Tom Petty/Beach Boys fans see Jack's Mannequin.
Diversity freaks should turn to Michael Franti & Spearhead.
I for one am recently listening to a lot of Lennon (Hate Beatles. Love Lennon.) The Doors never gets old either. James Morrison is GOD. And The Cure makes for nice sunny afternoon music too.
And I hear Morrisey is around these days. Or someone really enjoys sticking posters of him everywhere.
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vkartikv
Hall of Fame
I don't know whether to agree with you or not. Almost every generation says this about the previous but I feel the 60s-80s were the best era. I am a big 80s fan but got into Pink Floyd about 5 yrs ago and they were my bridge to the 70s and earlier. I love the Doors, Hendrix and Stones and I agree that music isn't what it used to be - to our ears.
I watched this Indian movie called Rock On. If you get a chance, watch it (I'msure you'll find some place that has a subtitled version). There are scenes where they show a wannabe big rock band signing a contract that obliges them to do an album with 7 songs of their choice and one of the recording studios choice. The recording studio asks them to cater to the 'current audience' and do a remix of an old song. This is, sadly, the current state of affairs. Most new albums have about 1 moderately good/decent song and the rest is trash. Plus you pay $12 on avg. for a CD. But there still seems to be people enjoying this so called trash. Bottomline - to each, his own.
I watched this Indian movie called Rock On. If you get a chance, watch it (I'msure you'll find some place that has a subtitled version). There are scenes where they show a wannabe big rock band signing a contract that obliges them to do an album with 7 songs of their choice and one of the recording studios choice. The recording studio asks them to cater to the 'current audience' and do a remix of an old song. This is, sadly, the current state of affairs. Most new albums have about 1 moderately good/decent song and the rest is trash. Plus you pay $12 on avg. for a CD. But there still seems to be people enjoying this so called trash. Bottomline - to each, his own.
mhstennis100
Semi-Pro
I'd recommend everyone check out Sputnikmusic.com. It's a music website that features user and staff reviews. I've found many bands that I enjoy through this website. Just search a band you alrady like, and most will have a section of similar artists. They accumulate user ratings so you can see which albums are worth checking out.
I personally don't know all the lyrics well enough to say, and it's very possibly your point is supported by an intellectual analysis of the material. But feel-wise, Money seems out of place on Dark Side, while Comfortably Numb would fit right in on Dark Side.
That's not to say Comfortably Numb doesn't also work on "The Wall", but since I like this song, I'm going to steal it for Dark Side for my imaginary perfect Pink Floyd album. Sorry.
I personally don't know all the lyrics well enough to say, and it's very possibly your point is supported by an intellectual analysis of the material. But feel-wise, Money seems out of place on Dark Side, while Comfortably Numb would fit right in on Dark Side.
That's not to say Comfortably Numb doesn't also work on "The Wall", but since I like this song, I'm going to steal it for Dark Side for my imaginary perfect Pink Floyd album. Sorry.
Since the other thread was deleted, here's the link again for Six Shooter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9m...79D034DD&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=26
BTW gj and Fila got banned and there's somebody new named gjules001 already lol....
Anyways, rock on Pink Floyd!
I used to feel the same way, OP but you just need to discover some new bands, there is a lot of talented bands out there that are active right now, its just that no one plays their songs on TV or on the radio. There are tons of creative, and absolutely awesome rock musicians out there, they're just buried under a pile of feces that is mainstream pop-rock.
If you want i can recommend some bands.
If you want i can recommend some bands.
SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
Don't know if the OP or this poster still read this forum but I thought that I'd resurrect this thread just the same...
I had heard a smattering of Phish back in the mid/late 80s. Unfortunately, they never got much airplay on the radio back then. In the past month, however, I started leasing a car that has SiriusXM sat radio and I stumbled across Jam_ON (Ch 29). It features a whole lot of jam rock music from the likes of Phish, Umphrey's McGee, Gov't Mule, The Allman Brothers, The Black Crowes, Dave Matthews Band and others.
Phish's music encompasses an amazing variety of musical genres. At times their improvisational style reminds me of the Grateful Dead (or Dave Matthews). At other times I hear influences of jazz-fusion groups like Brand X. However they embrace many other musical styles/genres as well.
Gov't Mule is an offshoot of The Allman Brothers formed in the mid-90s. Their music includes a lot of Southern rock and blues-rock with quite a bit of jam/improv. However, they also include covers of Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin in their concerts.
Umphrey's McGee music appears to be a mix of prog rock, prog improv, jazz-fusion, metal, bluegrass, folk and funk. Their influences are reported to be Yes, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Mahavishnu Orchestra, and The Beatles.
Note that the jazz-fusion group, Brand X, was also influenced by The Mahavishnu Orchestra. An early lineup of Brand X, in the mid/late 70s, included Phil Collins and Atomic Rooster guitarist, John Goodsall. I hear influences of the type of music that Brand X did in the 70s and 90s on the music played on Jam_ON. However, I don't know if they are getting airplay on that station.
Russeljones
Talk Tennis Guru
It's so sad but true.
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
On the whole, contemporary classical just isn't as compelling as the neo-classicism of the early 20th century or the baroque and classical music of the 1600-1700s. We've had a weak century or so but things can always improve. 100 years is a long time for music to not be what it once was in terms of quality and the stirring of the soul, but hopefully mankind has a long future.
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
To be fair, some of the Spiritual Minimalism does stir the soul.
SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
I actually prefer Igor's music prior to his neo-classic period, particularly The Firebird, Petrushka and The Rite of Spring (Le Sacre du printemps).
r2473
G.O.A.T.
"What song is it you wanna hear?"
SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
There won't be any music radio stations by then,everyone can listen to what they want online...
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
The big record companies have bit by bit and at an increasing rate pulled the rug from under new ideas and new Music.
All for the sake of fast cash.
Its not progress its the opposite it seems ..
All for the sake of fast cash.
Its not progress its the opposite it seems ..
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
Any The National or the War on Drugs fans here?
heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
Great music is made all the time, go and find it
MatsPhilander
Legend
One of the few modern bands/artists I like, along with Wilco, Willard Grant Conspiracy & a few others.
Bored of inane kids with haircuts that have zero musical ability & are just there for their looks. It all sounds like the same producer, the same idiotic lyrics & the same person really, they make a music video & then throw some crappy song at it.
Sad thing is you do get the odd piece of talent that gets hidden,elects to hide in this cesspool of crap-was blown away by how good a singer & piano player Lady Gaga was on the Stevie Wonder tribute that aired here last week, I guess doing the awful techno/vocoder pop & pretending you suck stuff sells a lot of records.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y-1SpgS8pk
Hidden talent? listen to this. This guy plays piano, sings, writes music, barely gets noticed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4O91D4nbRI
