Miami Open goes Supersized: Decision to oppose its expansion in Key Biscayne vindicated

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The owners of the Miami Open clearly wanted to keep expanding Crandon Park at Key Biscayne until there was nothing left there but tennis infrastructure.

The resistance to this proved successful, thankfully, and for those who wanted it kept at Key Biscayne all I can say is that expansion would have destroyed what you liked about it.

Here is the latest ATP video of the new stadia and grounds and it is enormous!!! And all of 32 courts:

 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
In other news, Larry Ellison has announced plans to increase the size of Indian Wells to cover 50 square miles. It will be a "multi use" facility, and plans are to include luxury housing, a full tennis themed amusement park and shopping malls.

When asked to comment, Larry was quoted as saying "take that b!tches".
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
I don't know why people keep talking about a crisis in tennis when expansion seems to be the norm.

There doesn't seem to be any crisis in tennis at the level of the top tournaments.

We are having perhaps a new media and gambling-fuelled boom, but it's a boom nevertheless.
 
I hope they are not actually going to make the spectators sit in this section:
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What sort of design is this?
 

bigserving

Hall of Fame
The place looks big-time to me. I can't wait to get there. Next generation tennis with good-looking food places right on site. It'll be fun. Hot, but fun.
 

BGod

G.O.A.T.
It was a long-term plan as Key Biscayne will likely be decimated in 20 years due to the rising sea levels and expected frequency of storms. Yeah I know not the place but just saying.

Although at this rate South Florida's economy will be in shambles by the 2050s. Ah we don't need to worry about that though. :whistle:
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
That's a possibility but the owners battled long and hard for it to stay at Key Biscayne, so they were not worried by AGW.

It was a long-term plan as Key Biscayne will likely be decimated in 20 years due to the rising sea levels and expected frequency of storms. Yeah I know not the place but just saying.

Although at this rate South Florida's economy will be in shambles by the 2050s. Ah we don't need to worry about that though. :whistle:
 

Rabe87

Professional
Miami unfortunately sits at a bad time in the tennis calendar, it's definitely the ugly sister of Indian Wells and alongside the USO is on the slide.
 

Rabe87

Professional
Indo Wells should just become a Super Masters and take up 3 weeks and Miami can be a 500 event, that'd make more sense.
 

BGod

G.O.A.T.
That's a possibility but the owners battled long and hard for it to stay at Key Biscayne, so they were not worried by AGW.

Well in business 5 years is considered a long time let alone 10. So nobody is going to be hindered by what could happen 20 years out. Plus it's not like anyone wants panic to set in.
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
Time to create a special category for sunshine double and upgrade it into - "Super Masters" as it once was suggested! Award players with 1200 pts. as opposed to regular 1000 (kind of like women are awarded with 1000 pts. from winning Indian Wells-Miami-Madrid-Beijing compared to 900 pts. from winning Doha/Dubai-Rome-Toronto/Montreal-Cincinnati-Wuhan)...
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
Indo Wells should just become a Super Masters and take up 3 weeks and Miami can be a 500 event, that'd make more sense.

I think Miami has been a great event but moving was unfortunate (a wealthy heir/"environmentalist" thwarted the wishes of the more than 70% of Miami-Dade voters in favor of the expansion) and obviously it's a watershed year and the new main stadium looks terrible. However, if you want it downgraded maybe you should at least offer to front the litigation costs. :eek: The ATP spent approximately $20 million dollars*** paying for the litigation when Hamburg was downgraded. :cry:

***On the likely more than you care to know front:

This reported amount excludes the cost of the separate litigation by the ATP to recoup the $20 million litigation costs from the Hamburg franchise owners. This latter lawsuit was settled so we don't know what amount, if anything, the ATP recovered. The ATP tour has a provision in its bylaws that members who sue it and lose have to pay the ATPs litigation costs. During the course of this litigation, the Delaware Supreme Court held that this type of loser-pays fee-shifting provision for a non-stock corporation wasn't per se invalid (whether it kicked in would be hotly litigated). This ruling reverberated far outside of tennis as corporations incorporated in DE (the favored place to incorporate in the US) started amending their bylaws to add a similar provision relating to stockholders. The DE legislature subsequently amended the law to make clear only non-stock corporations (e.g., the ATP Tour) could use such a fee-shifting provision.
 
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MeatTornado

Talk Tennis Guru
Even though I never attended in person and 99% of the tennis viewing experience is the same on TV regardless of where they're playing, I'm really going to miss Crandon Park.

Tennis at Pro Player/Land Shark/Dolphin/Dolphins/Sun Life/Hard Rock Stadium seems horrifyingly lifeless and corporate.
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
...99% of the tennis viewing experience is the same on TV regardless of where they're playing, ...

Bingo.

Tennis at Pro Player/Land Shark/Dolphin/Dolphins/Sun Life/Hard Rock Stadium seems horrifyingly lifeless and corporate.

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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/mar/30/miami-open-miami-dophins-stadium-hard-rock-tennis

"The ability to host sponsors in plush, luxury suites which generate huge amounts of cash during the NFL season are also, predictably, attractive reasons for the switch." :censored:

"..the lack of palm trees and the constant noise emanating from the Florida Turnpike will take away the Floridian experience which made picturesque Key Biscayne such a favourite with fans and players alike."

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/tennis/article207039209.html

"Not too many people can say they played tennis is a football stadium. And now they’ll have that opportunity every year.” This is a selling point. o_O:-D
 
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Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
Miami unfortunately sits at a bad time in the tennis calendar, it's definitely the ugly sister of Indian Wells and alongside the USO is on the slide.

Miami is at a bad time ? For who, you ? :laughing:

USO sliding ? They just sunk another $600 million into the place so I guess they fooled the investors. :eek:

Why do I think you've never been to Indian Wells, Miami or NY ? :unsure:

I suggest you first visit each tournament that you want to downgrade or move around the calendar and then send your impressions off to the respective governing bodies for the appropriate consideration.

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