Most Nadal haters don't know what it feels like to suffer from tendinitis

[Cassius Clay]

When you are suffering from tendinitis like Nadal is, you don't collapse to the ground in pain all of a sudden, you are becoming more and more sore little by little as the time goes by. It's really a nuisance but it's not that bad unless you ignore the pain over the time. You can still run without limping but must be careful not to pass the limit. That's the reason why he seemed ok before and after the trainer break.

We can no doubt say Nadal had a span of time in which he could choose to call for the physio or just to keep playing through the pain.
So, it was not a coincidence he chose to call him at 5-4, it was a tactical move but he was not faking the injure, he just chose the timing that suited him best, which is fair. It would be stupid to call the trainer in an awkward moment for him if he can still somewhat handle the pain.

So, he rested a little and got the massage and therefore he was able to play for a little longer.

That's what tendinitis is all about.

 

[OKUSA]

seems like this problem won't go away, which means he will never win more grand slams than Roger Federer. So, we can all stop thinking Nadal is the GOAT

 

[Underhand]

You can't polish a turd.

 

[namelessone]

You can't polish a turd.

Mythbusters disagree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBj6PonX14A

 

[Terr]

I have it in my right knee. It flares up if I sit with my leg crossed for more than 5 minutes.

For all you mothers out there, it's a bit like being in labour... with your knee. And for you men out there, that's like pulling your lip over your head and to the back of your neck a la Peter Griffin.

 

[Wilander Fan]

When you are suffering from tendinitis like Nadal is, you don't collapse to the ground in pain all of a sudden, you are becoming more and more sore little by little as the time goes by. It's really a nuisance but it's not that bad unless you ignore the pain over the time. You can still run without limping but must be careful not to pass the limit. That's the reason why he seemed ok before and after the trainer break.

We can no doubt say Nadal had a span of time in which he could choose to call for the physio or just to keep playing through the pain.
So, it was not a coincidence he chose to call him at 5-4, it was a tactical move but he was not faking the injure, he just chose the timing that suited him best, which is fair. It would be stupid to call the trainer in an awkward moment for him if he can still somewhat handle the pain.

So, he rested a little and got the massage and therefore he was able to play for a little longer.

That's what tendinitis is all about.

ALOT of recreational tennis players have tendinitis including me in both knees. Calling for a trainer in the middle of a match would not make him magically better or faster.

 

[lawrence]

I have it in both knees. Even with support bands, when it's hurting it's hurting, I don't go running down impossibly hard to get balls because it kills and it shows when it kills.

I have no doubt that Nadal does indeed have tendinitis, but if you're making this thread as a timely response to all the claims about his bad gamesmanship you couldn't have picked a worse time.

 

[cknobman]

Nadal gamesmapship yesterday on a scale of 1 - 10 (1 being worst) was right at about a 3.

Excessive and unessessary timeouts and to top it off getting an official warning for coaching from the stands. Whether to coaching from the stands was Nadals fault or not is not the point but rather that he got a warning from it. Nadal leash your damn dog(Uncle Tony) cause if he cant act appropriate from the stands then he dosnt need to be there!!!

 

[Commando Tennis Shorts]

So many people on here with tendonitis. What a coincidence

 

[Raiden]

I have no doubt that Nadal does indeed have tendinitis, but if you're making this thread as a timely response to all the claims about his bad gamesmanship you couldn't have picked a worse time.

Absolutely!

 

[Deleted member 21996]

I have it in both knees. Even with support bands, when it's hurting it's hurting, I don't go running down impossibly hard to get balls because it kills and it shows when it kills.

I have no doubt that Nadal does indeed have tendinitis, but if you're making this thread as a timely response to all the claims about his bad gamesmanship you couldn't have picked a worse time.

someone got owned and it's not nadal!

 

[Semi-Pro]

Most Nadal haters don't know what it feels like to suffer from tendinitis

Do you?

You sir are an idiot.

 

[Cassius Clay]

ALOT of recreational tennis players have tendinitis including me in both knees. Calling for a trainer in the middle of a match would not make him magically better or faster.

I didn't say that, but of course it helps quite a bit. You should know it if you really have tendinitis.

I have it in both knees. Even with support bands, when it's hurting it's hurting, I don't go running down impossibly hard to get balls because it kills and it shows when it kills.

I have no doubt that Nadal does indeed have tendinitis, but if you're making this thread as a timely response to all the claims about his bad gamesmanship you couldn't have picked a worse time.

The point is his pain was not that urgent, so he chose the perfect timing to call the trainer. It's fair.

someone got owned and it's not nadal!

Not me either.

Do you?

I do.

 

[Ambivalent]

Yes but tendinitis definitely does not heal and allow him to move like it's gone in a matter of 10 min.

 

[Deleted member 21996]

Not me either.

keep tellin that to yourself. it might become true!

meanwhile, please give us more insightfull details on your particular knowledge in Tendinitis, Dr. Cassius!

since it's seems only you and nadal suffer form that special tendinitis kind that vanishes in seconds...

 

[TMF]

Thread fail.

This doesn't explain why he's consistently calling MTO when he's down in the match, in jeopardy of losing or lost confident.

 

[Mr_Shiver]

Yeah, tenditis doesn't just stop hurting. If you continue to engage in the activity that is irritating it, the pain only gets worse. Given this is a chronic issue for Nadal i am guessing his condition is more advanced than any of ours and that much more painful. That also makes his rapid improvement quite dubious.

 

[Cassius Clay]

keep tellin that to yourself. it might become true!

meanwhile, please give us more insightfull details on your particular knowledge in Tendinitis, Dr. Cassius!

since it's seems only you and nadal suffer form that special tendinitis kind that vanishes in seconds...

Stop that crap, I didn't say it vanishes in seconds. Read again.

Thread fail.

This doesn't explain why he's consistently calling MTO when he's down in the match, in jeopardy of losing or lost confident.

Yes, I explained it 2 times in fact in this thread. He does it because he can choose the time he wants to. Tendinitis allows you to do that, it's not like having a sudden fracture of something.

 

[Cassius Clay]

Yeah, tenditis doesn't just stop hurting. If you continue to engage in the activity that is irritating it, the pain only gets worse. Given this is a chronic issue for Nadal i am guessing his condition is more advanced than any of ours and that much more painful. That also makes his rapid improvement quite dubious.

Rest + massage= a bit of improvement. But you are right, if you don't stop within a reasonable period of time, you are getting worse for sure.

 

[Semi-Pro]

Stop that crap, I didn't say it vanishes in seconds. Read again.

Yeah Gorecki, it doesn't vanquish in seconds. It vanquishes in minutes with of course the magic touch of the trainer on court. Didn't you see how well Nadal moved after that 2minute message? surely it's something majestic that the trainer had done! Full sprint on the run passing forehands, chasing down drops shots, lateral movement...impeccable!

 

[Deleted member 21996]

Yeah Gorecki, it doesn't vanquish in seconds. It vanquishes in minutes with of course the magic touch of the trainer on court. Didn't you see how well Nadal moved after that 2minute message? surely it's something majestic that the trainer had done! Full sprint on the run passing forehands, chasing down drops shots, lateral movement...impeccable!

i was just talking crap, Dr cassius meant massage and rest. In the Nadal Petz match was not a 2 minute massage, it was a 4 days rest and we were just flashforwarded....

Semi: you should listen to dr. cassius! he is wise!

 

[Cassius Clay]

Yeah Gorecki, it doesn't vanquish in seconds. It vanquishes in minutes with of course the magic touch of the trainer on court. Didn't you see how well Nadal moved after that 2minute message? surely it's something majestic that the trainer had done! Full sprint on the run passing forehands, chasing down drops shots, lateral movement...impeccable!

Because once he is on court he tries his best, but that doesn't mean he was not in pain. He just has to be careful with his knee, or he won't be able to play in the future.

I bet this morning when he woke up he felt the pain big time. That's how tendinitis works. When you cool off you realize how bad it is. So it's very important to be cautious when exercising. So Nadal's move was very clever. Tactic and health wise.

 

[Deleted member 21996]

Because once he is on court he tries his best, but that doesn't mean he was not in pain. He just has to be careful with his knee, or he won't be able to play in the future.

I bet this morning when he woke up he felt the pain big time. That's how tendinitis works. When you cool off you realize how bad it is. So it's very important to be cautious when exercising. So Nadal's move was very clever. Tactic and health wise.

See Semi? this is how you turn a disgracefull shameless behaviour into a Genial tactical move by a great spartan warrior!

 

[Berundi]

When you are suffering from tendinitis like Nadal is, you don't collapse to the ground in pain all of a sudden, you are becoming more and more sore little by little as the time goes by. It's really a nuisance but it's not that bad unless you ignore the pain over the time. You can still run without limping but must be careful not to pass the limit. That's the reason why he seemed ok before and after the trainer break.

We can no doubt say Nadal had a span of time in which he could choose to call for the physio or just to keep playing through the pain.
So, it was not a coincidence he chose to call him at 5-4, it was a tactical move but he was not faking the injure, he just chose the timing that suited him best, which is fair. It would be stupid to call the trainer in an awkward moment for him if he can still somewhat handle the pain.

So, he rested a little and got the massage and therefore he was able to play for a little longer.

That's what tendinitis is all about.

^^^Who is this idiot?

 

[drakulie]

When you are suffering from tendinitis like Nadal is, you don't collapse to the ground in pain all of a sudden, you are becoming more and more sore little by little as the time goes by. It's really a nuisance but it's not that bad unless you ignore the pain over the time. You can still run without limping but must be careful not to pass the limit. That's the reason why he seemed ok before and after the trainer break.

We can no doubt say Nadal had a span of time in which he could choose to call for the physio or just to keep playing through the pain.
So, it was not a coincidence he chose to call him at 5-4, it was a tactical move but he was not faking the injure, he just chose the timing that suited him best, which is fair. It would be stupid to call the trainer in an awkward moment for him if he can still somewhat handle the pain.

So, he rested a little and got the massage and therefore he was able to play for a little longer.

That's what tendinitis is all about.

 

[TMF]

Yes, I explained it 2 times in fact in this thread. He does it because he can choose the time he wants to. Tendinitis allows you to do that, it's not like having a sudden fracture of something.

Like so many members have explained it already...rafa TMO only during crucial time to gain an edge over his opponent. It's purpose is to throw off rhythm, when he's behind and in danger of losing. It work well for him in the past so he continue to abuse it.

And i didn't agree with you about his tendinitis yesterday. He was perfectly fine because he was playing even better after the MTO. Nadal is such a great actor he even fool you.

 

[Semi-Pro]

All I have to say is Nadal fooled everyone, but mostly his fans (since they are blinded by his success) and it worked. If he had lost the match then the excuse would have been he's 'injured' again, if he won (which he did) then he would downplay his 'injury'(which he did).

I have many friends who are fans of Nadal and are quite outraged about what he did the other day, certainly questioned his character and gamesmanship that's for sure.

Either way it was a win win situation for Nadal, now that's tactics.

 

[TMF]

All I have to say is Nadal fooled everyone, but mostly his fans (since they are blinded by his success) and it worked. If he had lost the match then the excuse would have been he's 'injured' again, if he won (which he did) then he would downplay his 'injury'(which he did).

I have many friends who are fans of Nadal and are quite outraged about what he did the other day, certainly questioned his character and gamesmanship that's for sure.

Either way it was a win win situation for Nadal, now that's tactics.

Yes, Nadal is a great actor. I think he can be a better actor than being a tennis player. If I'm him, I'll head to hollywood to try out acting when my tennis career is over.

 

[cknobman]

Todays interviews only back up everyones assumptions that he medical timeouts Saturday were total and complete bs and poor gamesmanship.

Both Nadal and Uncle Tony say the knee is fine and has been evaluated and the doctor says its ok, then Nadal proceeds to go on and practice as usual.

What a frack ****, Im starting to really dislike him.

 

[namelessone]

Todays interviews only back up everyones assumptions that he medical timeouts Saturday were total and complete bs and poor gamesmanship.

Both Nadal and Uncle Tony say the knee is fine and has been evaluated and the doctor says its ok, then Nadal proceeds to go on and practice as usual.

What a frack ****, Im starting to really dislike him.

Gee, and I thought you liked him based on your avatar.

IMO, the only way his MTO yesterday would have been validated in the eyes of TW'ers is if he would have withdrawn for WB. He should have not practiced at least. This whole DC withdrawal move is also a smokescreen.

The Mallorcan Mafia goes on.

 

[kanamit]

Most Federer haters don't know what it feels like to suffer from an exploding bladder.

 

[drakulie]

Now we could read about it:

 

[Deleted member 3771]

seems like this problem won't go away, which means he will never win more grand slams than Roger Federer. So, we can all stop thinking Nadal is the GOAT

That is only if you classify GOAT as meaning the most achieved of his era.The knee has already cost Nadal about 5 slams(and inflated Fed's number by about the same amount) so Nadal won't become the most achieved of his era, Fed has that, thanks to Nadal's injuries. However when everyone is fit, Nadal is the best of this era - that is the best between the lines when everyone is fit. Fed can't handle him, the only time he has beaten a fit Nadal in slam tennis is in the 2006 Wimbledon final When Nadal was still a baby. In the 07 Wimbledon final Nadal's knee beat Nadal when he twisted it while he was dominating and cruising to victory, and Nadal Spanked Fed the other 6 times they met in slams. If Fed can reverse the 5-2 slam final domination of him by Nadal he can gain the best of the era tag.

 

[Li Ching Yuen]

Most Federer haters don't know what it feels like to suffer from an exploding bladder.

hahahhaaahaha.

 

[drakulie]

thanks to Nadal's injuries.

what injuries?????

 

[WhiskeyEE]

he was prob on steroidal anti inflammatories. why wouldn't he be? therefore he wouldn't have even felt it. The danger of playing with tendinitis is a worse injury, like tendinosis or a tear. But it doesn't really impede play much, if at all.

 

[TheFifthSet]

That is only if you classify GOAT as meaning the most achieved of his era.The knee has already cost Nadal about 5 slams(and inflated Fed's number by about the same amount) so Nadal won't become the most achieved of his era, Fed has that, thanks to Nadal's injuries. However when everyone is fit, Nadal is the best of this era - that is the best between the lines when everyone is fit. Fed can't handle him, the only time he has beaten a fit Nadal in slam tennis is in the 2006 Wimbledon final When Nadal was still a baby. In the 07 Wimbledon final Nadal's knee beat Nadal when he twisted it while he was dominating and cruising to victory, and Nadal Spanked Fed the other 6 times they met in slams. If Fed can reverse the 5-2 slam final domination of him by Nadal he can gain the best of the era tag.

Oh 5 slams eh?? Pray tell, which 5 slams are you talking about?

I also frankly don't understand how being down 2 sets to 1 is considering "cruising". I guess I'm weird that way.

 

[mellowyellow]

If Fed can reverse the 5-2 slam final domination of him by Nadal he can gain the best of the era tag.

Fed will never have that many opportunities because nadal cant make the finals of the other slams consistently, are you for f____ing real? The greatest of all times finds a way to compete at near a 100% for the better part of their prime.

 

[mellowyellow]

Sorry, but to assume every nadal loss is due to injury is assa9

 

[cknobman]

Gee, and I thought you liked him based on your avatar.

IMO, the only way his MTO yesterday would have been validated in the eyes of TW'ers is if he would have withdrawn for WB. He should have not practiced at least. This whole DC withdrawal move is also a smokescreen.

The Mallorcan Mafia goes on.

Come on now namelessone youve been around for a while. Up until today my avatar was one of Roger and Rafa with their arms around each others shoulders after completing a match. My avatar used to show how two of my favorite players respected each other. Ive always liked Federer more but until Saturday Nadal was one of my favorites. His actions Saturday made me decide to change my avatar because that is how I see him now. Hes basically an injury waiting to happen and it will often coincidentally happen when hes losing a match!!!

 

[rocket]

However when everyone is fit, Nadal is the best of this era - that is the best between the lines when everyone is fit.

how can one be the best when he can't even reach all 4 slam finals in a year?

 

[djokovicgonzalez2010]

My mother is a doctor. So, yeah, I have a decent understanding, still, the times it shows up are very suspicious

 

[Cassius Clay]

My mother is a doctor. So, yeah, I have a decent understanding, still, the times it shows up are very suspicious

It shows up when he's losing because if you're in pain your game is likely to drop and therefore you are starting to lose. It's neither a coincidence nor a bad sportsmanship.

It's not usual for Rafa to be 2 sets to 1 down against nobodies like that German. So it was obvious something was hindering him.

 

[drakulie]

So it was obvious something was hindering him.

Yeah, his opponents tactics and serve.

 

[T1000]

Yeah, his opponents tactics and serve.

LOL CC keeps getting owned along with all the other Nards (JV, Bud, Babette, CMM, vortex, the guy with an ass as his avatar etc.)