Nadal: "Don't give an Extra Slam to Novak!"

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Well no ****, Nadal peaked earlier in his career and had greater mileage. Fed was getting older.

He beat up on two post prime guys since 2014, congratulations.

Pass me by with that post prime nonsense after he just got shellacked last Sunday by this supposedly decrepit over the hill fossil.
 

BackhandDTL

Hall of Fame
Pass me by with that post prime nonsense after he just got shellacked last Sunday by this supposedly decrepit over the hill fossil.

If you think this is even in contention for Nadals best FO performances you are out of your mind.

2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2017 were all better performances.

King of clay is just that good on clay, even after losing steps and his FH DTL not as dominant, he’s still king
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
If you think this is even in contention for Nadals best FO performances you are out of your mind.

2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2017 were all better performances.

King of clay is just that good on clay, even after losing steps and his FH DTL not as dominant, he’s still king

Who cares if it wasn't his best performance? He's won 11 Slams since Djokovic hit his peak and is the most recent Slam winner but yes let's talk about Djokovic beating post prime Nadal, as if they are 5 years apart in age instead of 11 months.
 

BackhandDTL

Hall of Fame
Who cares if it wasn't his best performance? He's won 11 Slams since Djokovic hit his peak and is the most recent Slam winner but yes let's talk about Djokovic beating post prime Nadal, as if they are 5 years apart in age instead of 11 months.

Once again the age argument is garbage here. Clearly Nadals prime was earlier in his career.
 
Who cares if it wasn't his best performance? He's won 11 Slams since Djokovic hit his peak and is the most recent Slam winner but yes let's talk about Djokovic beating post prime Nadal, as if they are 5 years apart in age instead of 11 months.

Thats to Nadal's credit...I mean Novak fans are happy to count Djokovic's 10 slams after Fed turnee 33 or use the fact that Fed won only 4 slams post 2011 to say that it was only because of Djokovic...but when the argument is the other way, you simply change it to suit Novak.

Nadal peaked on grass before Djokovic hit is prime and his prime movement on clay was also before that (although 2012 was close)...even on HC, he hasn't topped ao 2009 although he had sporadic runs in 2013 to early 2014 where notably Novak couldn't even a slam on his best surface...
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster

Where was the lie? :D That's like someone saying 19 now, I'd correct them too :p

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Jai

Professional
Where was the lie? :D That's like someone saying 19 now, I'd correct them too :p

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Yeah I agree, this remark was more jocular than anything. But if you see Rafa's interview post the AO 2020 final, he candidly admitted he was hoping Thiem would win, as for him personally it would be better if Novak did not close the gap on GS total. Well, after that to claim he doesn't care that much about the record is.... Humbull :) One man's healthy ambition is another's obsession, it would seem.
 
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daphne

Hall of Fame
Lol. It is interesting how relaxed and comfortable Nadal and Fed are with their careers and their place in tennis history. Probably why they are relaxed on court anymore and don’t’ demonstrate the angst as Djo does.
Yeah, Djok is an angry, arrogant, and record obsessed man who sits at home with Stefan and Srdjan and plots how to destroy the Fedal legacy using the generational peasant wisdom of the Djokovics! Perhaps his vegan diet makes him as such?
 

victorcruz

Hall of Fame
Yeah, Djok is an angry, arrogant, and record obsessed man who sits at home with Stefan and Srdjan and plots how to destroy the Fedal legacy using the generational peasant wisdom of the Djokovics! Perhaps his vegan diet makes him as such?
Hey dude, why so triggered? Just enjoy greatness. Djokovic is no worse than #3 and still on his way to #1. But that doesn't mean he has to be everyone's cup of tea.
 

daphne

Hall of Fame
Hey dude, why so triggered? Just enjoy greatness. Djokovic is no worse than #3 and still on his way to #1. But that doesn't mean he has to be everyone's cup of tea.
Triggered? I have been trying to spot the angst these peeps have been talking about. Very hard. And could not spot it, ever! So, perhaps, I thought, it's me who lacks the ability to notice it! Then it dawned on me, it's the vegan diet! And Stefan!
 

JustMy2Cents

Hall of Fame
Triggered? I have been trying to spot the angst these peeps have been talking about. Very hard. And could not spot it, ever! So, perhaps, I thought, it's me who lacks the ability to notice it! Then it dawned on me, it's the vegan diet! And Stefan!
Here's a scream from this year's AO ... which surprises spectators by its intensity and is perceived as angst
Literal translation seems to be Say, say... I am waiting for you for a half-hour
Quite scary to viewers

Not to bring up stuff like the old bark at the ball boy which was supposedly directed at his box and so was deemed OK by his fans
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Here's a scream from this year's AO ... which surprises spectators by its intensity and is perceived as angst
Literal translation seems to be Say, say... I am waiting for you for a half-hour
Quite scary to viewers

Not to bring up stuff like the old bark at the ball boy which was supposedly directed at his box and so was deemed OK by his fans

He shouldn't have kept the tribal chief waiting! :D and why is Parmesan in the title? lol

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Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
Don't ever believe Rafa when he says he's not obsessed with the slam race.

Novak is the only one honest enough to admit, while Rafa and Fed just pretend for the gallery.

Of course all three want the record. I don’t know that their obsessed about it which sounds pejorative. They’re all hyper-competitive or they wouldn’t be in the race. All three are still playing basically for Majors not to be playing “second round in the middle of nowhere.” But all of a sudden one or more of them doesn’t want the record.:rolleyes:

Djoker has always been the one of the three most likely to tell you exactly what he is thinking/feeling. It’s not at all a negative comment on the other two. They just have different personalities.
 

JustMy2Cents

Hall of Fame
Huh? What about it?
Such outbursts are construed as angst by most spectators. Just wanted to present a mass view as you wanted some proof of angst... no need to drag little Stefan into this.

People don't see rainbows and hear angels singing when witnessing this kind of behavior directed toward his own team.
 

terribleIVAN

Hall of Fame
It’s not at all a negative comment on the other two. They just have different personalities.

They're playing the nice guy game to get the sponsorship big bucks.

Fed got a nose and mouth job so he could sell more coffee cups and play into James Bond commercials without scaring mothers and their children away each time the camera zoomed on his horror face .

Rafa showed his crotch and butt to the world.

Give me Connors ("people don't realize it's a war outthere") and Muster ("i'm sick of this constant nice guy pretending") any day of the week.
 
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daphne

Hall of Fame
Such outbursts are construed as angst by most spectators. Just wanted to present a mass view as you wanted some proof of angst... no need to drag little Stefan into this.

People don't see rainbows and hear angels singing when witnessing this kind of behavior directed toward his own team.
Really?....I mean ...really!?




What does it prove? Want some more? This is IDIOTIC!
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
They're playing the nice guy game to get the sponsorship big bucks....

I’m not clear what you prefer a different personality has to do with the fact that these three obviously all want the Majors record. In any case, these three have their own personalities and you like Connors and Muster. Understood. And while I’m not the brand manager, I disagree that stating explicitly you want the record is in any way detrimental to your sponsorship potential. It’s not exactly a revelation and you don’t have to be coy about the goal.
 
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terribleIVAN

Hall of Fame
I disagree that stating explicitly you want the record is in any way detrimental to your sponsorship potential. It’s not exactly a revalation and you don’t have to be coy about the goal.

It's the alpha game: alphas never say they run after something, it would automatically demote them from their throne.

You play the "I'm the best thing since sliced bread, and if people don't agree it's their loss" charade.
 

csmoove899

Semi-Pro
It's the alpha game: alphas never say they run after something, it would automatically demote them from their throne.

You play the "I'm the best thing since sliced bread, and if people don't agree it's their loss" charade.
It's even more alpha to call your shot and then sink it.
 
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Deleted member 771911

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That extra slam was Wimbledon 2020! Nole is the moral champion.
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
It's the alpha game: alphas never say they run after something, it would automatically demote them from their throne.

You play the "I'm the best thing since sliced bread, and if people don't agree it's their loss" charade.

I don’t know what that means but I misspelled the word revelation and I blame Apple.:sneaky:
 

thrust

Legend
Yeah, Djok is an angry, arrogant, and record obsessed man who sits at home with Stefan and Srdjan and plots how to destroy the Fedal legacy using the generational peasant wisdom of the Djokovics! Perhaps his vegan diet makes him as such?
This post is a joke, correct?
 
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Deleted member 762343

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Here's a scream from this year's AO ... which surprises spectators by its intensity and is perceived as angst
Literal translation seems to be Say, say... I am waiting for you for a half-hour
Quite scary to viewers

Not to bring up stuff like the old bark at the ball boy which was supposedly directed at his box and so was deemed OK by his fans

Yes, "supposedly". Djokovic’s outbursts are highly criticizable as he looks like a lunatic and it’s not respectful towards the crowd or his opponent. It’s very annoying. But it’s extremely dumb to doubt he was yelling at his box during the infamous ball boy incident, as even a 5 years old with functioning eyes can see it. You either have to be literally blind or figuratively blinded by hatred to even question this.
 

JustMy2Cents

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Yes, "supposedly". Djokovic’s outbursts are highly criticizable as he looks like a lunatic and it’s not respectful towards the crowd or his opponent. It’s very annoying. But it’s extremely dumb to doubt he was yelling at his box during the infamous ball boy incident, as even a 5 years old with functioning eyes can see it. You either have to be literally blind or figuratively blinded by hatred to even question this.
Not questioning that he was yelling at his box at all. Just wondering why it's OK to yell at your box.

No matter whatthe level of one's achievement is [and Djoko is undisputably at a very high level], where is the need to be that unpleasant to one's own team?
 

Forehanderer

Professional
Not questioning that he was yelling at his box at all. Just wondering why it's OK to yell at your box.

No matter whatthe level of one's achievement is [and Djoko is undisputably at a very high level], where is the need to be that unpleasant to one's own team?
In years past, it would be rude to do that. Most coaches in the past would round house kick them (not literally) if they did that. Also players had not much of a team back then. Even a coach may be absent. In such a situation, the players had to control their own emotions something these players have a problem with.
 

terribleIVAN

Hall of Fame
It's even more alpha to call your shot and then sink it.

Only in theory, because anyone doing that would run the risk of ending with eggs on their faces should they fail.

In reality, it almost never happens. I don't think Borg or Pete ever called their shots.
 

N01E

Hall of Fame
The reporter:
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Here's a scream from this year's AO ... which surprises spectators by its intensity and is perceived as angst
Literal translation seems to be Say, say... I am waiting for you for a half-hour
Quite scary to viewers

Not to bring up stuff like the old bark at the ball boy which was supposedly directed at his box and so was deemed OK by his fans
"You've got Nole, he's hardly even number 1"
Novak proceeds to break the weeks at #1 record
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With all due respect, you have always come off like a Djokovic hater to me so of course this is your point of view. That last line is probably the nicest thing I have ever seen you write about him. The fact is, he has been standing on his own for a long time now and he has his own era. You are in his era. The Fedal era ended a while ago. We may can debate this a bit and say maybe we are in Djokodal era the last couple of years but Djokovic is above the other 2 in the last 10 years and has dominated them in the head to head. So it seems you may be still in 2009.

Let's not put Fed and Rafa in the same boat here. Rafa has won 6 slams since 2017, Djokovic 6 and Federer 2. Rafa is still winning slams each year, Federer hasn't for 3 years.
 

gn

G.O.A.T.
But you know I don’t want to think about them all the time. Novak has this one, Roger has the other one. You can’t be always unhappy because your neighbor has a bigger house than you or a better phone. - Rafa :)
 

Jai

Professional
Let's not put Fed and Rafa in the same boat here. Rafa has won 6 slams since 2017, Djokovic 6 and Federer 2. Rafa is still winning slams each year, Federer hasn't for 3 years.

OK, but what you're saying here is completely different to your previous post which is what @NoleFam was replying to. You were claiming Novak's achievements would always be framed as being within the Fedal era, which is, if you think of it, not really true.

Many people either talk about a Fedalovic era, or maybe Fedal era followed by Djokodal/ Djokovic era.
 
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OK, but what you're saying here is completely different to your previous post which is what @NoleFam was replying to. You were claiming Novak's achievements would always be framed as being within the Fedal era, which is, if you think of it, not really true.

Many people either talk about a Fedalovic era, or maybe Fedal era followed by Djokodal/ Djokovic era.
I think you've quoted the wrong person here. I've only posted once on this thread and NoleFam hasn't replied to it.
 
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