Rafa has a better chance to win the career slam than Fed does.

Rafa has a better chance to win the career slam than Fed does.

First of all Nadal is younger. Secondly Nadal is capable of beating anyone on hards including Fed while on the other hand Feds chance of winning the FO seem over.
 

nalk7

Rookie
What if nadal injures himself and retires from the french? there is still a small chance he can do it :)
 

edberg505

Legend
Rafa has a better chance to win the career slam than Fed does.

First of all Nadal is younger. Secondly Nadal is capable of beating anyone on hards including Fed while on the other hand Feds chance of winning the FO seem over.



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onkystomper

Hall of Fame
Nadal does have a good chance of doing the career slam BUT he is unproven at the US open and Has reached the semi's of Australia. He may have a better chance but i do not think he will manage it. I hate to say it as i am not a fan of his but i think Djokovic has a better chance than Nadal.
 

rockbox

Semi-Pro
I think so too because winbledon and the french are the hardest to win together. How many other players on the men side have won both in the open era? That being said, the US is going to be hard for him since the courts are so fast.

Borg, Laver, and Agassi
 

caulcano

Hall of Fame
Rafa has a better chance to win the career slam than Fed does.

First of all Nadal is younger. Secondly Nadal is capable of beating anyone on hards including Fed while on the other hand Feds chance of winning the FO seem over.

Negative.

Nadal needs the other 2 GS whereas Federer only needs the FO.

For Nadal there are too many HC players that can beat him.

Yes Nadal is younger but he's not getting any younger. I honestly can't imagine Nadal winning the FO for the next 5 years and Federer will probably play for another 5 years.
 
i think there is little to zero chance of nadal winning all 4 slams - too many good hard courters out there - including Roger! i dont even think he will win at SW19 again... Roger back with revenge in '09
 

csharpjava

New User
i bet djokovic is going to knock out federer in the semis at the french or australian (if they are on the same side of the draw)

and nadal will beat djokovic in the finals

you heard it here first.
 

falcon12

New User
i bet djokovic is going to knock out federer in the semis at the french or australian (if they are on the same side of the draw)

and nadal will beat djokovic in the finals

you heard it here first.

How do you know that djokovic will be in federer's side ,is you that makes the draw of the grand slams?
 

Gemini

Hall of Fame
Nadal's body suffers a lot more on hardcourts compared to clay/grass so it's going to be pretty difficult for him to be a consistent threat on that particular surface. Yes, he's won a number of big titles on hardcourts but it's generally been early in the season when he's a lot fresher.
 
Rafa has a better chance to win the career slam than Fed does.

First of all Nadal is younger. Secondly Nadal is capable of beating anyone on hards including Fed while on the other hand Feds chance of winning the FO seem over.

Nadal is capable of beating anyone on hards? Nadal has never even been close to winning the Aussie or US Open. Whatever you're smoking please stop you are getting delusional.
 

fastdunn

Legend
Federer looked special because he does well on all surfaces.

But the truth is that all surfaces now played similarly from baseline and any top player will do relatively well on all surfaces.

This won't look that special within 10 years if current ATP condition maintains.

Guys like Nadal, Federer and Djokovic have pretty good chance to do career slams...
 
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Messarger

Hall of Fame
He has a great chance if he's willing to adapt. On the US Open hard courts, he has to continue to flatten out his forehand (backhand for that matter) when he has the chance to do so. His transition from clay to grass was superb, and i dont see why he cant change from grass to hard courts. To me it's actually easier to transition from grass to hard as compared to clay to grass. If he continues to play aggressively and dictate the points like what he has done at Queens and Wimbledon, he should be a contender for the US Open.

But will he?
 
Excuse my ignorance, but why do people say "you heard it hear first"? is that so that we will give credit to those people for "calling it" in advance? I don't really understand.

Onto the real topic at hand, Federer has a better chance to win the career slam than Rafa for a very simple reason: Federer has gotten to the finals of the French Open for three consecutive years where as Rafa hasn't gotten to the finals of two of the four Grand Slams. Too many good/dangerous players on hard court like a Safin, Djokovic, even Roddick. I'd pick those three to beat Rafa in either the AO or the US Open.
 

127mph

Semi-Pro
cannot believe these types of posts. federer looses two slam finals and everyone writes him off and forgets that he has 12 slams. everyone forgets that the only reason federer doesnt have the french is because of nadal. everyone forgets that federer is the second best on clay. everyone also now thinks that he is no longer the king of grass.

Then everyone seems to forget that nadal never wins titles the second half of the season, and that his results at the US open have been nothing. Also you forget that now that he has got his wimbledon, that he will try to get the number one ranking before he focuses on anything else.

So look out because now we are in the Federer/Djokovic part of the season.
 

Nadal_Monfils

Semi-Pro
cannot believe these types of posts. federer looses two slam finals and everyone writes him off and forgets that he has 12 slams. everyone forgets that the only reason federer doesnt have the french is because of nadal. everyone forgets that federer is the second best on clay. everyone also now thinks that he is no longer the king of grass.

Then everyone seems to forget that nadal never wins titles the second half of the season, and that his results at the US open have been nothing. Also you forget that now that he has got his wimbledon, that he will try to get the number one ranking before he focuses on anything else.

So look out because now we are in the Federer/Djokovic part of the season.

That's the reason Federer won't win the career Grand Slam, he's not even close to winning the French Open anymore. Nadal still has room for improvement but I think his toughest test would be to win the US Open. At the Aussie he isn't tired from the strain of the season and should be fresh and fit to give his best performance.
 

AAAA

Hall of Fame
Federer 3 FO final appearances.
Nadal no final appearances at Aus Open or USO.

Federer is highly unlikely to/won't beat Nadal in the FO final but so far quite a few players have bumped Nadal out of the AUS and US open.

Federer only needs Nadal to have a problem whereas Nadal needs several players to all play cr&p in the same tournament.
 

fastdunn

Legend
Note that Nadal is slowly improving his performances on hard courts. He reahced quarter finals before and now he started to touch semi-finals.

And Nadal is 22. Djokovic at 21, has already reached semi-finals of French and Wimbledon. He won AO and reached final of US Open.

Federer will turn 27 next months. I am not sure which of these 3 has better chance to win career slams.

All slams are now played from baseline and surface speeds are converging to the middle. If Federer can't do it, the next top dog will do it, IMHO.
 
Federer 3 FO final appearances.
Nadal no final appearances at Aus Open or USO.

Federer is highly unlikely to/won't beat Nadal in the FO final but so far quite a few players have bumped Nadal out of the AUS and US open.

Federer only needs Nadal to have a problem whereas Nadal needs several players to all play cr&p in the same tournament.


Nadal has one thing Fed does not have : TIME
 

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
People have to remember Nadal and Djoker are 21 and 22 respectively. No one knows what they're capable of, or what they will achieve in their careers. Federer has 5-6 years experience over both of them. At Djoke's age he had zero slams and at Nadal's age he had one! Soo, all this he won't do this, or that, and Fed will do this or that is baselesss.
 

NamRanger

G.O.A.T.
People have to remember Nadal and Djoker are 21 and 22 respectively. No one knows what they're capable of, or what they will achieve in their careers. Federer has 5-6 years experience over both of them. At Djoke's age he had zero slams and at Nadal's age he had one! Soo, all this he won't do this, or that, and Fed will do this or that is baselesss.


Finally someone who has some sense in them.
 

shawn1122

Professional
Federer has only one person standing between him and being champion of the French Open, how can you say he's not close? All it takes is for Nadal to get injured one year, or just not be at the top of his game.

As for Nadal and Djokovic doing well at young ages, players peak at different times. I think its safe to say that Nadal won't be having as much success when he is Federer's age as Federer is having, because his game is so physical. With Djokovic, its harder to say, so far he is only really proven on hard courts.
 

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
Federer has only one person standing between him and being champion of the French Open, how can you say he's not close? All it takes is for Nadal to get injured one year, or just not be at the top of his game.

As for Nadal and Djokovic doing well at young ages, players peak at different times. I think its safe to say that Nadal won't be having as much success when he is Federer's age as Federer is having, because his game is so physical. With Djokovic, its harder to say, so far he is only really proven on hard courts.

Who knows what's going to happen in the future? Who's to say there won't be serious contenders for the big titles next year? How can we ascertain where Federer is psychologically? He thought he might possibly equal or surpass the grand slam mark this year. So far he's 0-3. Tennis is an ever changing landscape. Nadal will not be the only one who can threaten Federer, there may be plenty of others waiting in the wings. No one knows what Nadal's longevity will be. All of this talk is simply that. Talk! Djoker hasn't won enough (10 titles over his career) for anyone to make a decent assessment about where he will be. Everyone thought Safin was going to win tons of slams when he broke through too. Same for Roddick, Baghdatis, Tsonga. Bottom line? Everything is unproven, we'll have to wait and see how it plays out!
 

elee3

Rookie
I think Federer still has a better chance to win a career slam than Nadal. Nadal beats the heck out of his legs just to beat people. Nadal already pulled out of the next tournament cause his legs are way too sore. The real opponent Nadal faces on hard courts is the concrete in Grand Slams. Best of 5 at every round on concrete with the way he runs is just way too much. I bet Nadal is probably playing with tendinitis still from the US open last year. His legs are all taped up since then.

Reason why I say Federer has a better chance at a career slam is Nadal is way more likely to get injuried than Federer. Only way I see Nadal winning the career slam is to have a very minimal schedule for the year. Nadal just abuses the heck out of himself to win. This can't be too good for him in the long run. I would not be surprised if Nadal loses in the early rounds of the US open this year or skips it due to injuries. There's a lot of concrete matches to play leading up to the US open.
 
Who knows what's going to happen in the future? Who's to say there won't be serious contenders for the big titles next year? How can we ascertain where Federer is psychologically? He thought he might possibly equal or surpass the grand slam mark this year. So far he's 0-3. Tennis is an ever changing landscape. Nadal will not be the only one who can threaten Federer, there may be plenty of others waiting in the wings. No one knows what Nadal's longevity will be. All of this talk is simply that. Talk! Djoker hasn't won enough (10 titles over his career) for anyone to make a decent assessment about where he will be. Everyone thought Safin was going to win tons of slams when he broke through too. Same for Roddick, Baghdatis, Tsonga. Bottom line? Everything is unproven, we'll have to wait and see how it plays out!

It's true Baggy has only 2 titles, and Tsonga has a whopping zero. Thats right he's never won anything.
 

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
I think Federer still has a better chance to win a career slam than Nadal. Nadal beats the heck out of his legs just to beat people. Nadal already pulled out of the next tournament cause his legs are way too sore. The real opponent Nadal faces on hard courts is the concrete in Grand Slams. Best of 5 at every round on concrete with the way he runs is just way too much. I bet Nadal is probably playing with tendinitis still from the US open last year. His legs are all taped up since then.

Reason why I say Federer has a better chance at a career slam is Nadal is way more likely to get injuried than Federer. Only way I see Nadal winning the career slam is to have a very minimal schedule for the year. Nadal just abuses the heck out of himself to win. This can't be too good for him in the long run. I would not be surprised if Nadal loses in the early rounds of the US open this year or skips it due to injuries. There's a lot of concrete matches to play leading up to the US open.

After Rafa and Fed played the Monte Carlo final (I think it was) last year, both pulled out of their next event.
 

AAAA

Hall of Fame
Nadal has one thing Fed does not have : TIME

Time is definately on Nadal's side but Nadal currently still needs several players to all be off-form at the hardcourt slams. Federer still has at least another year unless he decides to give up the ghost.

Nadal is still improving, at some point like every other player he will reach a peak phyiscal and technical. Whether he will win both hardcourt slams by then is the next big thing to follow in tennis. I certainly will keep a closer eye on what Nadal does in the upcoming hardcourt season.
 
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