Records Set Today by Roger Federer

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
The AO was in 2009. And when was Fed no longer "off"...right when he beat an exhausted Nadal in Madrid, or when Nadal left the scene for awhile with his injury? Was he "off" in 07 when he BARELY beat Rafa at Wimbledon (his favorite tournament and surface) after Nadal hurt his knee and had to tape it up for the first time in his career?

These are two incredible, evenly matched players when both are playing well, and that was never more evident than in the 08 Wimbledon final. When Federer was dominating in 04-06, Rafa was a teenager still finding his game. You're entitled to your opinion but I couldn't disagree more.


blah, blah, blah, I like to whine, yada, yada, yada, why is Fed so good, blah, blah, blah, it's not fair, waw, waw, waw, doo, doo, doo.
 

sramirez77

Rookie
Nadal is always exhausted. This way when he wins he gets to be the hero.

He just finished the longest match in Masters Series history the day before after winning 3 straight tournaments...I think it's safe to say he was exhausted this time.

As BigServer just said, the whole point in my post was simply that these two are at a very, very similar level on the court. Every single unbiased fan, journalist, etc.. sees that. Just look at the H2H numbers BigServer posted.

I know Fed fans like to think that their man has no equal, but aside from the fact that his playing style will likely not yield the same longevity as Roger has had, Rafa has matched him every step of the way.

I'm not trying to say that there is always a reason/excuse when Nadal loses...but saying Nadal's incredible year was due to Fed being "off" was completely wrong IMO.

Just like in every other sport, everyone sees things a little differently based on who we're behind. As bruce said, we're just going to have to wait and see how things go when Nadal gets healthy again...
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
blah, blah, blah, I like to whine, yada, yada, yada, why is Fed so good, blah, blah, blah, it's not fair, waw, waw, waw, doo, doo, doo.

That would sum about 90% of Nadal fans posts.When he's losing or not showing up that is,when he's winning it's time to whine about Fed's interviews and character.
 

Serve_Ace

Professional
He just finished the longest match in Masters Series history the day before after winning 3 straight tournaments...I think it's safe to say he was exhausted this time.

As BigServer just said, the whole point in my post was simply that these two are at a very, very similar level on the court. Every single unbiased fan, journalist, etc.. sees that. Just look at the H2H numbers BigServer posted.

I know Fed fans like to think that their man has no equal, but aside from the fact that his playing style will likely not yield the same longevity as Roger has had, Rafa has matched him every step of the way.

I'm not trying to say that there is always a reason/excuse when Nadal loses...but saying Nadal's incredible year was due to Fed being "off" was completely wrong IMO.

Just like in every other sport, everyone sees things a little differently based on who we're behind. As bruce said, we're just going to have to wait and see how things go when Nadal gets healthy again...

I think that you just wish that Nadal matches him in every step, which he doesn't thats why Nadal is injured and can't manage his schedule and still doesn't have 14 slams and can't even make it past the 4th round of his best slam.
 

okdude1992

Hall of Fame
Huge pile of achievements for The Mighty Fed, his consistency is simply stunning, mad kudos to the Swiss master.

For entertainment's sake I'd prefer he wasn't so dominant, many of his matches end up a bit on the boring side for me because it looks like his opponent is overwhelmed by Roger's aura. When Federer is not pushed to come up with the big guns he just cruises, which ain't pretty, but I guess that's what makes him avoid injuries and keep his energy for the later stages of the tournaments.
good insight. this is also what i don't like about fed, but its not his fault now is it
 

ACE of Hearts

Bionic Poster
The 21 semis is the Dimaggio streak of tennis.Its crazy because of injuries and this guy has never gotten injured, hardly.
 

okdude1992

Hall of Fame
Huge pile of achievements for The Mighty Fed, his consistency is simply stunning, mad kudos to the Swiss master.

For entertainment's sake I'd prefer he wasn't so dominant, many of his matches end up a bit on the boring side for me because it looks like his opponent is overwhelmed by Roger's aura. When Federer is not pushed to come up with the big guns he just cruises, which ain't pretty, but I guess that's what makes him avoid injuries and keep his energy for the later stages of the tournaments.

That would sum about 90% of Nadal fans posts.When he's losing or not showing up that is,when he's winning it's time to whine about Fed's interviews and character.

same with the fedfans buddy. it seems to me that nadal fans have inferiority complex and fed fans have superiority complex!
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
same with the fedfans buddy. it seems to me that nadal fans have inferiority complex and fed fans have superiority complex!

Hey I'm only stating my observations but you might be right.It would be nice to see Roddick win on Sunday to shut both groups up a bit.Both of them are acting like it's a done deal.
 
Federer has the ability to almost always bring his A game to the slams. Not all champions had that ability and Federer is criticised for it.
All champions had that ability, which is what made them champions. Its the also rans, like Rios, Ferrero, and Roddick who lacked the ability and did not reach the status of champs.
 

EtePras

Banned
hahahahahahaha GameSampras is an unbelievable idiot. still crying that roger basically owns sampras? fyi, all the greatest players of all time were under one roof today: laver, federer and borg. no trace of sampras around, BOOHOO.

poor you, just looking for all the possible excuses just to make yourself better reasoning this age and that age, weak field, bending-over blah blah blah blah, instead of just accepting the result right in front of you. you're probably a really sore loser in real life and of course, really dumb too.

what a pathetic excuse of a human.

Now, don't get carried away. GameSampras may be a deluded tennis fan, but if that makes him/her pathetic excuse for a human in your book, what do you call the guys at Stormfront?
 

Wild Ace

Rookie
-My dear TRUE tennis fans and REAL lovers of sports/games, DO NOT DENY credit when credit is due.
-Do not put someone's (or your opponent's) accomplishments down just to make yourself feel good.
-This reveals your weakness & insecurities, not exude confidence.
-If you are TRULY good, you will let your tennis do the talking and not your piehole.

*Lastly, (and I'm looking at you Williams bros) we don't want to hear how you could have (but didn't) or how "unwell" you feel or other excuses why you didn't beat your opponent as if we all owe you a living and the Slams are rightfully yours.
I understand you all are young and immature but be a sport, LEARN etiquette & what it means to be a real sportsperson (I'm talking to the Williams bros again).
 
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drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
He just finished the longest match in Masters Series history the day before

He should have won quicker. BTW, how did he win AO after playing one of the longest 5 setters in the history of AO?? Pure Luck?? :roll:


after winning 3 straight tournaments...

Perhaps he should stop playing so many touraments if he can't handle it?? Or stop playing doubles. Or grow a pair of balls.


I think it's safe to say he was exhausted this time.

Actually, it's "safe to say" he has never lost unless exhausted. Right??


we're just going to have to wait and see how things go when Nadal gets healthy again...

Wake us up when that happens. Because he has been "exhausted", and nursing the same knee "injury" (cough), for the past 5 years.
 

tudwell

G.O.A.T.
Current record is actually 10, set by Federer immediately before this one and ended when he lost to Djokovic in last year's AO semi.

Well, yes. Now that's the record. But if Federer reaches the U.S. Open final, he'll have matched (or bettered) the previous record (the one prior to his 10 consecutive finals) twice. That's ridiculous. Twice!
 

cueboyzn

Professional
Well that goes for Sampras too. He won 14 slams in a weak era. I mean, can Ivanisevic, Chang,Bruguera etc, be compared to Connors,Mac, Villas, Lendl who Borg had to face?

Hardly is Nadal owning Federer at slams, he's 2-2 on non clay slams.

If you take out their clay meetings where Nadal is leading 9-2, their H2H is 5-5, hardly being owned eh? Nadal is probably the best clay courter there is, it isn't surprising he leads Federer on clay.


Fully agree. Nadal will probably go down in history as the Clay GOAT. But despite this Roger reached 4x FO Finals and a SF as well. Take Clay GOAT Nadal out the equation and Roger would probably have won 5 CONSECUTIVE French Opens to add to his 5 CONSECUTIVE Wimbledons and 5 CONSECUTIVE US Opens.

Besides, Roger has won 5 in a row at 2 separate GS Events, that achievement is phenomenal when you consider Clay Goat Nadal never managed to do that at the very Grand Slam where he was supposedly so invincible that many people thought he would win 6 or 7 straight FO titles.

Its not Rogers fault Nadal wasn't good enough to meet him in the finals of the USO or AO when he was dominating. But Roger WAS strong enough on his least favourite surface to keep making it to the finals of Nadal's clay playground.
 

sramirez77

Rookie
I think that you just wish that Nadal matches him in every step, which he doesn't thats why Nadal is injured and can't manage his schedule and still doesn't have 14 slams and can't even make it past the 4th round of his best slam.

Perhaps he should stop playing so many touraments if he can't handle it?? Or stop playing doubles. Or grow a pair of balls.

Where does all this HATRED for Rafa come from??? Nadal's camp has managed his schedule very poorly recently and his style definitely does create issues for how long he's going to be able stay on top of the sport. That's one area he probably will never equal Roger in...but then again I already said that.

When I say he's matched Fed, I'm mainly talking about when they play each other. Their head to head record is almost perfectly even except for on clay where Nadal destroys him. Also, Nadal has 6 Slams and 15 Masters Series titles at 22. That's VERY impressive by anyone's standards, including Roger's

Actually, it's "safe to say" he has never lost unless exhausted. Right??

Can't speak for anyone else, but I know I never said that myself. Fed has had a number of matches where he just outplayed Rafa...and vice versa.

There's really no point in continuing on this since my point that they're evenly matched proves itself in their H2H record. Federer is one of the most talented players in tennis history and I'm more than willing to admit that...but so is Rafa. It's simply his physical style of play and poor schedule management (which hopefully he'll fix) that may keep him from putting up career numbers like Roger has.

But if anyone wants to go on believing otherwise, there's no point in arguing as your minds are obviously already made up.
 
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