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[futuretoptenner]

Im watching the Roddick - Kohlscreiber (probably spelt wrong) match and quite frankly Roddick's ground strokes are second rate his serve is the only thing keeping him in this match. It's sad to see and I don't want to start yet another Roddick bashing thread because I rate him well used to rate him as a player, I say: Bring back the Roddick of old! Lets hope he does something otherwise he's out.:?

 

[gj011]

Roddick is way overrated. I can't beleive lots of people here and their obsession with this washed-up Ivo Karlovic wannabe.

 

[No Drop Shots]

I am watching it as well. Really hoping Kohlschreiber wins, he is showing much more variety in his shot making than ARod, who is as always looking very one dimensional. Kohlscreiber needs to keep it away from Rods forehand. If it wasn't for Rods serve, this match would be over ages ago, is a great match... 2 sets all. Rod standing way too far back during rallies, have been some absolutely exquisite drop shots from Kohlschreiber!! Rods already had one warning for racket abuse, should get another for being rude to the umpire!!

 

[futuretoptenner]

He got really personal with the umpire

"What did you do? Did you drop out of high school at 10 to be an umpire... ?" "You must have dropped out in second grade"

The anger made Roddick play better but thats pretty harsh and offensive.

 

[babySuri]

His chances of winning another slam is as big as Donald Young EVER winning a slam. Hahahahaha.

 

[christos_liaskos]

I am watching it as well. Really hoping Kohlschreiber wins, he is showing much more variety in his shot making than ARod, who is as always looking very one dimensional. Kohlscreiber needs to keep it away from Rods forehand. If it wasn't for Rods serve, this match would be over ages ago, is a great match... 2 sets all. Rod standing way too far back during rallies, have been some absolutely exquisite drop shots from Kohlschreiber!! Rods already had one warning for racket abuse, should get another for being rude to the umpire!!

Why does he need to keep it away from his forehand if the only thing keeping him in it is his serve? Give Roddick some credit, Philip is playing some awesome tennis yet if you look at the scoreline Roddick is hanging with him, its not all about the serve

 

[tacoben]

quite frankly Roddick's ground strokes are second rate his serve is the only thing keeping him in this match. .:?

That is a good analysis. Funny, my wife said the same thing as we were watching the match before I went to work this morning. He's becoming a one hit wonder (one major) kind of player.

 

[tacoben]

He got really personal with the umpire

"What did you do? Did you drop out of high school at 10 to be an umpire... ?" "You must have dropped out in second grade"

The anger made Roddick play better but thats pretty harsh and offensive.

Kind of sad that they allow this stuff to happen. The umpires should have more leeway in penalizing players that blow up.

 

[futuretoptenner]

Kind of sad that they allow this stuff to happen. The umpires should have more leeway in penalizing players that blow up.

Yeah, I think the real reason he is angry is because if ....

Crap match point Kohl...

 

[futuretoptenner]

Okay the real reason Roddick is angry is because he knows if he is playing at his best the match would be a lot closer.

3rd mp kohl.... big ace...

 

[futuretoptenner]

and Roddick is out.

 

[No Drop Shots]

Yep, best man won!! Am shocked at how short Rods approach shots were and how bad his net coverage was, Kohlschreiber pulled off some awesome passing shots to his credit.

 

[ATXtennisaddict]

shouldn't post match results here :\

 

[Crich]

i completely agree......roddick is way overrated........i still root for him..........but his groundstrokes are terrible........somebody tell him that he doesn't have to land his groundstrokes in the service box.

his backhand is unbelievably weak. i watched the last two sets and i don't think andy took kolshriebber to duece once. and i can't remember a passing shot either............

flatten that forehand out...........its like teeball for his opponents....that forehand gives them sooooooooooooo much time to prepare.

 

[Rob_C]

Kind of sad that they allow this stuff to happen. The umpires should have more leeway in penalizing players that blow up.

Did u see the warning Mardy Fish got, for ball abuse I think???? If the ref coded him for that, he probably should have def'd him. Other players have been def'd for that violation.

 

[classic tennis]

I think they both played a great match, but Kohlschreiber played out of his A~~ !

 

[seestern]

Yep, best man won!! Am shocked at how short Rods approach shots were and how bad his net coverage was, Kohlschreiber pulled off some awesome passing shots to his credit.

Net coverage and footwork should be way out of ranking 20.

 

[Coaching]

Noticed that also, he have to get a coach that can teach him the basic (if not too late). That BH is really has not sting at all. He has to add more loop to have added power.

 

[couch]

I haven't read the whole thread or even seen the match for that matter but I remember Cahill saying that Connors wants Roddick to cut down on his UE's and be more consistent. I've always thought he should play more of a power game and "hit" his forehand and force the action with it. He used to do this when he first came on tour. Heck, it seemed like he very seldom hit his backhand back then because he was running around his backhand to pound forehands.

Then everyone was telling him how weak his backhand was and that's all he hits now. Heck, Moya doesn't have the worlds best backhand either, that's why he doesn't hit it. LOL

 

[No Drop Shots]

Agreed, he needs to play the style of tennis he played when he first came on the scene, big shots, one-two style tennis, finishing the points quickly, using his forehand and hitting it harder and flatter. His forehand is not the weapon it was, too loopy and not penetrating enough, now he likes to play those gritty points when he should play to his strengths and play big!!

 

[jetlee2k]

I just feel bad for Roddick.. He can not hit a forehand or backhand past the service line.. he's just spinning and pushing the ball back.. As I said earlier match, if he kept doing that he will be out of top 10 soon.. What's wrong with his ground strokes? it seems Connors could not fix it either.. He served 42 aces but terrible ground strokes..

 

[bebots]

Other players sense his nervousness and that he's not willing to go the distance like they are.

Coming to the net CAN add another dimension to you game...but if you're coming to the net on a wing and a prayer like he did in the last game he's not going to win, it just shows impatience. He's not a born volleyer. In order to win he's got to grind, he has no choice! He does not have the ability to put the point away from the baseline. And he has to be willing to go the distance and be confident in his fitness and experience.

You can sense his impatience, that he just wants to end the point, just end the match. For a guy with decent groundstrokes those approach shots from Roddick were a gift, Kohlschreiber hit 2 screaming forehand winners one down the line and crosscourt.

Andy did the same thing last year against Federer. He didn't know what to do so he just kept coming to the net behind pretty bad approach shots and Roger passed him every single time.

 

[futuretoptenner]

Other players sense his nervousness and that he's not willing to go the distance like they are.

Coming to the net CAN add another dimension to you game...but if you're coming to the net on a wing and a prayer like he did in the last game he's not going to win, it just shows impatience. He's not a born volleyer. In order to win he's got to grind, he has no choice! He does not have the ability to put the point away from the baseline. And he has to be willing to go the distance and be confident in his fitness and experience.

You can sense his impatience, that he just wants to end the point, just end the match. For a guy with decent groundstrokes those approach shots from Roddick were a gift, Kohlschreiber hit 2 screaming forehand winners one down the line and crosscourt.

Andy did the same thing last year against Federer. He didn't know what to do so he just kept coming to the net behind pretty bad approach shots and Roger passed him every single time.

He tends to play alot better than roger than he does against other opponents though. If he played as well as he did against Roger at the USO. He probably would of won in straight sets.

 

[Purostaff]

With those big serves, I would just train my volleys days and night and become god.

discuss..

 

[Puma]

I agree with most all said here. The real question is, who can help him? Or, is he coachable?

 

[NamRanger]

He got really personal with the umpire

"What did you do? Did you drop out of high school at 10 to be an umpire... ?" "You must have dropped out in second grade"

The anger made Roddick play better but thats pretty harsh and offensive.

The umpire made some really questionable calls. Borderline stupid. I would say those are soft spoken words in comparasion to something John McEnroe would say.

 

[MichaelChang]

I agree with most all said here. The real question is, who can help him? Or, is he coachable?

at his age, 27, I think he is pretty much past his prime, and going down hill.

 

[NoBadMojo]

Here's some revealing stats from the match.....and to think he still lost

his 1st serve % was 72%

he had 42 aces

79 winners vs 23 UE's

 

[babySuri]

haha he sux. but everyone knows that already!

 

[futuretoptenner]

The umpire made some really questionable calls. Borderline stupid. I would say those are soft spoken words in comparasion to something John McEnroe would say.

The umpire probably shouldn't have warned him for breaking his racket , he wasn't causing a danger to anyone and plenty of people do it without getting warned for it.

And the point where Roddick left his backhand because he thought the ball was out was definitely Kohlscreibers point. He left the ball because he thought it was out even before the call was made.

I think the umpire was merely a scape goat for Roddick's anger... he should be playing better tennis . I really do think it's all down hill from here. I don't see him at Shanghai at the end of this year.

 

[Arafel]

Here's some revealing stats from the match.....and to think he still lost

his 1st serve % was 72%

he had 42 aces

79 winners vs 23 UE's

Those are really good stats. I didn't see the match, but it sounds like K was just playing out of his mind. Sometimes that happens.

 

[MichaelChang]

Here's some revealing stats from the match.....and to think he still lost

his 1st serve % was 72%

he had 42 aces

79 winners vs 23 UE's

well, khol had 102 winner to compare with.

 

[urban]

It hurts a bit, to see him play now. When he came up in 2001/2, he was such a talented player. But now, he only has a serve. Even his forehand, once a deadly stroke, has regressed. His groundies are way short, and his tactical play is poor (what has he learnt from Connors). He attacks the net at the false moment, after playing short topspin "approaches", instead of deep slices.

 

[barry]

Fish and Roddick out, if the Williams sisters lose, ESPN will be forced to show better matches.

 

[babySuri]

Fish and Roddick out, if the Williams sisters lose, ESPN will be forced to show better matches.

haha good point!

back to roddick...
he needs to accept that he is nothing but a serve and forehand---so he needs to play up those strengths. this stupid loopy game he tries to play (like to prove that he can grind it out) does not work for his game. he needs to go after his shots and run around that lame *** backhand.

gilbert tried to make him a net rusher---------NOPE not his game.
connors is trying to make him a grinder-------NOPE not his game.

If he played as recklessly as he did when he first came out, he would be more successful than he is now.

 

[ckthegreek]

Roddick has no class. Sampras calls him 'abrasive' which pretty much sums it up.

As for his tennis 'one-dimensional' doesn't even describe it. No imagination, no ideas, no variety. Some people described Sampras as boring. Roddick to me is 10 times more boring.

Shame cause America and the world need a US tennis hero fast to take on the top boys.

 

[Ken B.]

Maybe if he would stop hitting those top spin shots on his damn heels like he's skipping to the net he wouldn't be read like a book by his opponent.

I think people have finally realized how to beat him:
1) block serve back
2) hit angles so he slices
3) return slice low and around the service line
4) Roddick will come to the net, do his stupid topspin skip
5) Pass him

 

[babySuri]

Maybe if he would stop hitting those top spin shots on his damn heels like he's skipping to the net he wouldn't be read like a book by his opponent.

I think people have finally realized how to beat him:
1) block serve back
2) hit angles so he slices
3) return slice low and around the service line
4) Roddick will come to the net, do his stupid topspin skip
5) Pass him

umm all you have to do is block the serve back and get a rally going. steps 2-5 are optional...

 

[Ken B.]

umm all you have to do is block the serve back and get a rally going. steps 2-5 are optional...

I was being generous.

 

[babolatking]

now since roddick is done, who is the fav coming out of the bottom??
i think youzney or nadal, or even karlovic

 

[TXKiteboarder]

does anyone have roddick's record against top 20 players for the last three years?

 

[radon8]

Some people just aren't made to come to net. Roddick has no transition game. I'm not sure who has undermined his confidence over the last few years, but he needs to go back to his strengths and build from there. There was a time I wanted to improve my game and started to force myself to serve and volley. After about 6 months of not winning one match my confidence was so low I couldn't even hit my 'bread and butter' shots that I used to win matches with before. That's where Roddick is now. Time to bring back Tarik?

 

[futuretoptenner]

Some people just aren't made to come to net. Roddick has no transition game. I'm not sure who has undermined his confidence over the last few years, but he needs to go back to his strengths and build from there. There was a time I wanted to improve my game and started to force myself to serve and volley. After about 6 months of not winning one match my confidence was so low I couldn't even hit my 'bread and butter' shots that I used to win matches with before. That's where Roddick is now. Time to bring back Tarik?

I agree, his volleys have improved but has made his overall game a lot worse. If he wants to stay in the top 10 it's time to bring back his old game.

 

[vigour]

Roddick got out classed, out served and out played in every department. I'm glad Kohlschreiber whooped his behind. Roddick doesn't deserve to be in the top 50. What does he have apart from his serve, ? The guys a joke, like all american's, glad to see him knocked out. Hahaha.

 

[tacoben]

Should he fire Connors....

I think that is what is bothering him....and it's in his head. How do you fire a legend?

 

[vigour]

I agree, his volleys have improved but has made his overall game a lot worse. If he wants to stay in the top 10 it's time to bring back his old game.

What his serve and to moan all the time? He still has that. The way he reacted today on the court, abusing the center judge, acting like a true american with true american attitude. The guys a joke with no skill other then the vile garbage that he utters, wait, can you call that skill, ?

 

[maverick66]

Roddick got out classed, out served and out played in every department. I'm glad Kohlschreiber whooped his behind. Roddick doesn't deserve to be in the top 50. What does he have apart from his serve, ? The guys a joke, like all american's, glad to see him knocked out. Hahaha.

that was no joke the way that match was decided. and you are an idiot. saying he got whooped when the score is that close. if it had been a complete blowout i woulds agree that something is wrong with roddick but this is the depth of mens tennis now. when two men play as well as they can there is gonna be a battle. people just want to rip on andy no matter what and its getting old. he could get to number 1 again and people would say "its only because his serve is big the rest is crap". you dont get ranked that high if the rest of your game is mediocre.

 

[quest01]

Roddick had a personal best 42 aces in this match but Kohl had an astounding 104 winners to 33 unforced errors which is a +71 while Roddick had 79 winners to just 24 unforced errors which is a +55.

 

[vigour]

that was no joke the way that match was decided. and you are an idiot. saying he got whooped when the score is that close. if it had been a complete blowout i woulds agree that something is wrong with roddick but this is the depth of mens tennis now. when two men play as well as they can there is gonna be a battle. people just want to rip on andy no matter what and its getting old. he could get to number 1 again and people would say "its only because his serve is big the rest is crap". you dont get ranked that high if the rest of your game is mediocre.

Don't know what game you were watching mate, but the one i was watching sandy got whooooped big time. Kohlschreiber hit much, much more winners then roddick did and he did it with class, something that sandy sod-dick hasn't got. You don't believe me? Go watch the match again.

 

[vigour]

Roddick had a personal best 42 aces in this match but Kohl had an astounding 104 winners to 33 unforced errors which is a +71 while Roddick had 79 winners to just 24 unforced errors which is a +55.

Thank you, .