Serena and Venus' mother blasts Kim Clijsters

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Legend
That's your opinion.

Kim seems like a nice person, but once again none of us personally know her.

Serena and Venus seem like nice people as well.

Certainly Kim has not faced the same pressures and double standards that the Williams Sisters have.

Not to point out past history, but I can recall hearing that the Williams sisters received tournament invitations to which they were not otherwise entitled to by their results, due to tournament directors wanting to introduce minority representation. If this is true, then the Williams sisters also benefited by a double standard.
 

max

Legend
I'm no hater of the Williams sisters. They play wonderfully; I particularly feel their dad is a unique kind of genius in all this.
 

Objective Danny

Hall of Fame
Price and Serena are shopping at the 24hr Walmart. They have a 2 for sale on squirrel tail wigs.
According to Perez Hilton, they are the rage this season.
 

viduka0101

Hall of Fame
it's unbelievable someone can be so stupid
nobody cares about her,this is just going reflect badly on her daughters no matter if they didn't say it
 
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Deleted member 21996

Guest
...what else would you expect from that member--who lives to post his socially ill hatred for the Williams sisters?

funny you fail to adress the thread's point. do you or do you not consider Oracene's comments out of order (for someone of her status)?

just for a Bias check here!
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
How do you know who the Williams Sisters are rooting for?

It is obvious that you don't like the Williams Sisters. I am sure you have lots of "reasons"/justifications for that dislike without regard to the validity or invalidity of those "reasons" ...but honestly, who cares?

You dislike 2 tennis players that you do not know and will use anything and everything to justify that feeling. Take a number, get in line.

You can't logically blame the sisters for something their mother may or may not have said, but I'm sure you still will. So who cares.

He never had a logical reason for all of his dangerous hatred of a family he will never know. However, all they need to do is have a history of beating his false tennis "gods," and this member goes into stalker mode. If the Williams family (or representatives) ever read this creature's posts, i'm sure they would increase security to avoid a tragic end for the family, as his hatred-filled obsession is anything except normal.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
funny you fail to adress the thread's point. do you or do you not consider Oracene's comments out of order (for someone of her status)?

Out of order? What planet are you on? Djokovic's family made negative comments about Federer. Kim's late father once accused Henin of doping. Players have whined about the habits or personalities of other players (ask Agassi about his early years comments about Sampras), and through it all, the world did not have the faux "outrage" did posted here. I do not need to wonder why.

Logically, Oracene owes Kim nothing, and is free to say whatever she desires--within reason (which means it was not in the realm of the incredibly offensive crap spewed by Hingis about Mauresmo, or Hewitt during the USO Blake match). Just as Djokovic's family or Kim's late father did not owe their respective subjects anything. How are you missing this elementary point of reality?

Hmm?
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Things get out of order on here. Oracene didn't say anything that people on here don't say everyday about Federer and Nadal. Let he who has not sinned...........
 
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Out of order? What planet are you on? Djokovic's family made negative comments about Federer. Kim's late father once accused Henin of doping. Players have whined about the habits or personalities of other players (ask Agassi about his early years comments about Sampras), and through it all, the world did not have the faux "outrage" did posted here. I do not need to wonder why.

all those comments are out of order too. thanks for clarifying your bias and your personality. and yet Ob. Danny isthe racist right wing big got...

yeah.. right!

Logically, Oracene owes Kim nothing, and is free to say whatever she desires--within reason (which means it was not in the realm of the incredibly offensive crap spewed by Hingis about Mauresmo, or Hewitt during the USO Blake match). Just as Djokovic's family or Kim's late father did not owe their respective subjects anything. How are you missing this elementary point of reality?

Hmm?

elementary point of reality? spewing crap is spewing crap being it oracene's tweets, Hewitt's racial remarks or hingis ofenses...

much like you and danny do around here!

but since it was a williams, it's all cool.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
all those comments are out of order too. thanks for clarifying your bias and your personality.

You are clearly full of sh*t, since the views of others have nothing to do with your desire for everyone to jump on your "hate a Williams" bandwagon, as illustrated in this thread.

Yes, your intent was clear.

and yet Ob. Danny isthe racist right wing big got...

You introduced race into this thread, so you must be aware that he has a long TW history of racist posts, which anyone can find via the search option. Thanks for a refresher on your pal, kiddo.

elementary point of reality? spewing crap is spewing crap being it oracene's tweets, Hewitt's racial remarks or hingis ofenses...

No. There is a clear difference between the intent and content of Hingis and Hewitt's slurs, and someone referring to one as "dubious" and rooting for Li Na. Still, that you would even try to reduce the disgusting level of the Hewitt/Hingis comments (by considering it the same as Oracene's less-than-mild statements) says you will say (or do) anything to damn members of this family. You certainly are in psychological lockstep with a couple of members in this ill-conceieved thread.

Go figure.
 
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Sentinel

Bionic Poster
We don't really know how "genuinely nice" Kim is as none of us have a personal relationship with her.

However, if that was really Oracene tweeting that stuff...what a bad idea to publicly bash someone.

She might make these in jokes for her friends, but they shouldn't be for public consumption.

That said...I too am rooting for Na Li and for history to be made.

Not to nitpick, but its Li Na and not Na Li. The Chinese would be surprised if they heard Na Li.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
Cannot wait until the williams are completely out of tennis. They make you embarrassed to be an American. Clijsters has more class than all of the williams put together, they are all complete *** holes.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Cannot wait until the williams are completely out of tennis. They make you embarrassed to be an American. Clijsters has more class than all of the williams put together, they are all complete *** holes.

They may be playing for the next 20 years since they take so much time off in between slams only. You may be out of luck.:) I agree with you though, they are not really my faves either.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Cannot wait until the williams are completely out of tennis. They make you embarrassed to be an American.

Yes, because two people represent all that is clearly wrong with America... nevermind serious image-destroying events such as fixed elections, launching fake wars which slaughtered innumerable innocents, empty-suit politicians fattening their pockets while citizens starve on the streets, bailing out Wall Street...the works. No, forget that and focus on two women who have only helped to draw positive attention to women's tennis for more than a decade...not that you would ever be capable of recognizing that.

Typical.
 
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tlm

G.O.A.T.
Yes, because two people represent all that is clearly wrong with America... nevermind serious image-destroying events such as fixed elections, launching fake wars which slaughtered innumerable innocents, empty-suit politicians fattening their pockets while citizens starve on the streets, bailing out Wall Street...the works. No, forget that and focus on two women who have only helped to draw positive attention to women's tennis for more than a decade...not that you would ever be capable of recognizing that.

Typical.

As a fan of tennis the jive sisters make a lot a Americans ashamed with there nonstop crap. You want to turn this into a political bashing grounds go ahead. I am completely aware of the williams bringing recognition to women's tennis, i am also aware of how much negative crap they have also brought.
 

8PAQ

Banned
I always thought that William sisters got their external ugliness from their hidious mother and their internal ugliness from their racist wife beating father. Now I see that their mother contributed genes to their internal ugliness as well. Ugh!!!
 
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tlm

G.O.A.T.
I always thought that William sisters got their external ugliness from their hidious mother and their internal ugliness from their racist wife beating father. Now I see that their mother contributed genes to their internal ugliness as well. Ugh!!!

Great post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
There’s jealousy and bitterness from the WS family. Oracene don’t want Kim to be any more popular. Ever since Kim return to tennis, she made Serena irrelevant. Kim made her name well known in the US(winning USO), of course in Europe, and now in Australia. As evidence yesterday when she(and Li Na) reward us fans for one of the best match in slam final. Plus, Kim outstanding speech during the trophy presentation made me want her to play forever! Screw you Oracene !!
 
all those comments are out of order too. thanks for clarifying your bias and your personality. and yet Ob. Danny isthe racist right wing big got...

yeah.. right!

elementary point of reality? spewing crap is spewing crap being it oracene's tweets, Hewitt's racial remarks or hingis ofenses...

much like you and danny do around here!

but since it was a williams, it's all cool.

I don't see what the outrage is for. If it truly was a joke, then it's no big deal. I think we all know how sometimes things get misinterpreted as bashing over the internet when it's really meant to be a joke. If it was bashing, then it still shouldn't be Serena or Venus' responsibility what their mother says, and Serena and Kim do seem to have a good relationship - the quotes I posted here earlier where Kim refers to Serena as one of the nicer girls on tour, and the fact that Serena and Kim played the exho in Belgium last year points to that. In any case I think this is much ado about nothing really, and just more reason for some of the usual suspects to bash the WS.
 
There’s jealousy and bitterness from the WS family. Oracene don’t want Kim to be any more popular. Ever since Kim return to tennis, she made Serena irrelevant. Kim made her name well known in the US(winning USO), of course in Europe, and now in Australia. As evidence yesterday when she(and Li Na) reward us fans for one of the best match in slam final. Plus, Kim outstanding speech during the trophy presentation made me want her to play forever! Screw you Oracene !!

Come on man, be objective for once. Serena is NOT irrelevant and is definitely still the biggest star in women's tennis in the US.
 
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Deleted member 21996

Guest
You are clearly full of sh*t, since the views of others have nothing to do with your desire for everyone to jump on your "hate a Williams" bandwagon, as illustrated in this thread.

Yes, your intent was clear.

my view is on this particular issue. Oracene going out of order in her comments.

you on the other hand have a clear intent. excusing the disgusting tweets and general behavious of the williams!



You introduced race into this thread, so you must be aware that he has a long TW history of racist posts, which anyone can find via the search option. Thanks for a refresher on your pal, kiddo.

Kiddo my finely shaped derriere. you know nothing about my age our my personal views or opinions on these subjects. so you can have yourself a good dose of FU. fyi, Ashe, Chang, Washington and other non-caucasian players are among my favourites, so guess what.. it's not about race.

ps: my gf is black

No. There is a clear difference between the intent and content of Hingis and Hewitt's slurs, and someone referring to one as "dubious" and rooting for Li Na. Still, that you would even try to reduce the disgusting level of the Hewitt/Hingis comments (by considering it the same as Oracene's less-than-mild statements) says you will say (or do) anything to damn members of this family. You certainly are in psychological lockstep with a couple of members in this ill-conceieved thread.

Go figure.

i share no other opinions with OD 8or anyone else) than the not so kind opinion on the williams as a family, and i do it despite their race or religious choices. those have no matter in my opinion. in fact i find myself in the opposite spectrum of him!

fyi, i find any racial\sexual\religious slurr (or any aberrant position for that matter) disgusting independent of your "ranking" system.

have a nice one!

ps: sorry if my post is not very eloquent, but english is not my native language
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
There’s jealousy and bitterness from the WS family. Oracene don’t want Kim to be any more popular. Ever since Kim return to tennis, she made Serena irrelevant. Kim made her name well known in the US(winning USO), of course in Europe, and now in Australia. As evidence yesterday when she(and Li Na) reward us fans for one of the best match in slam final. Plus, Kim outstanding speech during the trophy presentation made me want her to play forever! Screw you Oracene !!

This is very true ever since Kim kicked bubble butts *** at the us open. Remember serena fans that real class act where she lost her mind over the foot fault calls. That was the true serena, she is getting outplayed big time so instead of taking her butt whooping she goes off on the lines person. This is because her ego is as big as her fat ***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Deleted member 21996

Guest
I don't see what the outrage is for. If it truly was a joke, then it's no big deal. I think we all know how sometimes things get misinterpreted as bashing over the internet when it's really meant to be a joke. If it was bashing, then it still shouldn't be Serena or Venus' responsibility what their mother says, and Serena and Kim do seem to have a good relationship - the quotes I posted here earlier where Kim refers to Serena as one of the nicer girls on tour, and the fact that Serena and Kim played the exho in Belgium last year points to that. In any case I think this is much ado about nothing really, and just more reason for some of the usual suspects to bash the WS.

i mostly agree with you. still i maintain, Oracene is out of order in her tweets. even if it was a joke, it was a really bad taste one!

thaks for keeping a good insight on this subject. Thundervolley could learn a thing or two with you!
 

Objective Danny

Hall of Fame
I always thought that William sisters got their external ugliness from their hidious mother and their internal ugliness from their racist wife beating father. Now I see that their mother contributed genes to their internal ugliness as well. Ugh!!!

No truer words were ever posted.

What a relief it was not to put up with their shenanigans during the semis and final.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
....the disgusting tweets and general behavious of the williams!

Again, you reveal your agenda; "disgusting" is an attempt (considering your recent arguments) of placing Oracene's comments on the same level of the vile things said by Hewitt and Hingis, which shows how far you will go to damn Oracene.


Kiddo my finely shaped derriere. you know nothing about my age

The tone of your posts indicates a rather young mind.


ps: my gf is black

As though that absolves a person from the charge. You need a lesson in the dynamics of racial cultural history if you think otherwise.


i share no other opinions with OD 8or anyone else) than the not so kind opinion on the williams as a family, and i do it despite their race or religious choices. those have no matter in my opinion. in fact i find myself in the opposite spectrum of him!

So much defensive noise.

Hmm......

fyi, i find any racial\sexual\religious slurr (or any aberrant position for that matter) disgusting independent of your "ranking" system.

There is no even playing field; Hewitt and Hingis' statements were and remain patently offensive, while Oracene's is less than mild, so for some to (typically) go overboard with her comments walks right in line with the usual anti-Williams propaganda squeezed out of the asses of certain TW members.

If you do not want to be seen as being on a side of an issue, then do not stand there, kiddo.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Ever since Kim return to tennis, she made Serena irrelevant.

Kim is a solid player to be sure, but your Williams hatred is (again) leading to more posted turds. Kim barely won a single slam in 2010, while SW won two--her AO count moved up to 5, and the Wimbledon count up to 4 titles, thus adding more reasons why she's the most dominant WTA player of the decade...and her career is not over.

Screw you Oracene !!

...more evidence of your bottom-scraping bloodlust for the lives of the Williams family. Your hatred of people you do not know goes far beyond mere sports "fandom."
 
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Deleted member 21996

Guest
Again, you reveal your agenda; "disgusting" is an attempt (considering your recent arguments) of placing Oracene's comments on the same level of the vile things said by Hewitt and Hingis, which shows how far you will go to damn Oracene.




The tone of your posts indicates a rather young mind.




As though that absolves a person from the charge. You need a lesson in the dynamics of racial cultural history if you think otherwise.




So much defensive noise.

Hmm......



There is no even playing field; Hewitt and Hingis' statements were and remain patently offensive, while Oracene's is less than mild, so for some to (typically) go overboard with her comments walks right in line with the usual anti-Williams propaganda squeezed out of the asses of certain TW members.

If you do not want to be seen as being on a side of an issue, then do not stand there, kiddo.

I would like you to stop using the word "kiddo" otherwise i will have to adress you in particular.

ps: but then again it does not surprise me the cowardness of not having a email contact availiable!
 
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Sid_Vicious

G.O.A.T.
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tlm

G.O.A.T.
Again, you reveal your agenda; "disgusting" is an attempt (considering your recent arguments) of placing Oracene's comments on the same level of the vile things said by Hewitt and Hingis, which shows how far you will go to damn Oracene.




The tone of your posts indicates a rather young mind.




As though that absolves a person from the charge. You need a lesson in the dynamics of racial cultural history if you think otherwise.




So much defensive noise.

Hmm......



There is no even playing field; Hewitt and Hingis' statements were and remain patently offensive, while Oracene's is less than mild, so for some to (typically) go overboard with her comments walks right in line with the usual anti-Williams propaganda squeezed out of the asses of certain TW members.

If you do not want to be seen as being on a side of an issue, then do not stand there, kiddo.



Do us all a favor, go back to your liberal la la land + just stay there.
 
Just because her daughters aren't in the finals and Clijsters beat Serena at USO 2009 doesn't mean she needs to take shots...
There’s jealousy and bitterness from the WS family. Oracene don’t want Kim to be any more popular. Ever since Kim return to tennis, she made Serena irrelevant. Kim made her name well known in the US(winning USO), of course in Europe, and now in Australia. As evidence yesterday when she(and Li Na) reward us fans for one of the best match in slam final. Plus, Kim outstanding speech during the trophy presentation made me want her to play forever! Screw you Oracene !!

Oh, Mother Marjorie recalls the 2007 US Open, when Oracene Price and family took to the press to attack Justine Henin and coach Carlos (the #1 seed and #1 player in the world) upon the eve of both the quarterfinals (vs Serena Williams) and semifinals (vs Venus Williams). Oracene went on a rant about Carlos coaching Justine during matches and Carlos quickly explained to the press that Oracene and family were snipping because they were afraid of Justine. Justine Henin defeated both in straight sets.

Its not uncommon for Oracene to publicly attack other WTA pros who pose a threat to their daughters on-court success, or those who take the storyline away from their dramatic family.

Mother Marjorie is not at all surprised that Oracene is on the attack. She knows that Kim has risen and will likely be the one to ride her daughters into retirement. It will be great to watch!

Oracene, get you a new wig and STFU. You, along with your daughters will soon be irrevelant to the sport of tennis (if you all aren't already).

With Love,

Mother Marjorie Ann
Queen of Talk Tennis Warehouse
 
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THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
I would like you to stop using the word "kiddo" otherwise i will have to adress you in particular.

You are quite touchy, Gorecki. This is a discussion. Nothing more, nothing less.


ps: but then again it does not surprise me the cowardness of not having a email contact availiable!

Ohhhh. Now--in your attempt to play internet chest-pumper--you think this would-be "bait" is going to lead to you getting an email address. That was a very green move on your part, little guy.

Again, this is a discussion. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Do us all a favor, go back to your liberal la la land + just stay there.

Posted like a bitter troll who was called out on his laughable "American" rant about tennis players...

Cannot wait until the williams are completely out of tennis. They make you embarrassed to be an American. Clijsters has more class than all of the williams put together, they are all complete *** holes.

...in a country you (apparently) think is free of grave problems which--in fact--shame the image of the nation and its citizens every day.

Nice Fox "News" dreamland you live in.
 
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Deleted member 21996

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You are quite touchy, Gorecki. This is a discussion. Nothing more, nothing less.




Ohhhh. Now--in your attempt to play internet chest-pumper--you think this would-be "bait" is going to lead to you getting an email address. That was a very green move on your part, little guy.

Again, this is a discussion. Nothing more, nothing less.

once again i would ask you to stop using adjectives.
 
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