Shoulder Pain from switching to Yonex Poly Tour Pro?

[stephan_58]

This is the second time I'm experiencing some shoulder pain from playing tennis. The first time was after having played on 3 consecutive days pretty intensively. This time it came after 1 hour of playing and it wasn't even that intense. The only difference was that I hit with a freshly strung set of Yonex Poly Tour Pro. What I'm not getting is that before this string, I used the Signum Pro Tornado for quite some time which is actually stiffer than YPTP according to TW university (YPTP: 181.2, SPT: 214.3). I've now switched back to the Tornado, but I'm still wondering why I got that pain.

Am I correct in assuming that the stiffness of a string is what determines the amount of shock to your shoulder? Or is there any other factor that I'm missing? Has anybody else had some similar problems with Poly Tour Pro?

 

[Sander001]

Found Yonex Poly Tour Pro 1.25 to be perhaps the most comfortable polys I've tried.

Strangely but not unheard of, found its thinner sister Yonex Poly Tour Pro 1.20 to be harsh and uncomfortable.

 

[mrc]

Yonex Poly Tour Pro is extremely comfortable. I find Volkl Cycloen Tour and Topspin Cyber Blue to be even better.

 

[ShahofTennis]

What tension did you have it strung at?
What racquet did you play with it inside of?

The only time I found YPTP to be painful was in a 27.5" 12.75oz racquet, I was pretty much asking for it. 1 hour means it's something more immediate than the strings themselves, aka the racquet.

 

[huba01]

the yonex YPTP is by far the most comfortable poly you can play, but its also one of the new polys that has to be strung at low tensions. I play it at 22 kg in the Rebel 98 which is a flexible frame aswel. Having played the cyberblue a lot, I would rate the YPTP to be even more comfortable, but again, at low tensions. It played well even at 20kg.

 

[stephan_58]

I strung at 53 punds/24 kg. I think that's reasonable, I never had any problems with other polys at this tension.

I've been playing with a Head YouTek Graphene Instinct MP for about a year which has a stiffness-rating of 70. I know it’s better if I choose a string that’s rather soft so the stringbed doesn’t get too stiff.

I've experimented with poly/multi-hybrids and I liked it, though I always came back to full bed-polys because I was a little lazy to find out what I really like. But it would soften the stringbed more and hopefully prevent those shoulder-issues... I think I'll have to dig deeper there.

Found Yonex Poly Tour Pro 1.25 to be perhaps the most comfortable polys I've tried.

Strangely but not unheard of, found its thinner sister Yonex Poly Tour Pro 1.20 to be harsh and uncomfortable.

I used 1.25 so this can't be it...

 

[mawashi]

I agree with the rest of the guys even a friend of mine who is very string sensitive was shocked when I told him the strings he was using was the Pro Tour 1.25 54/42lbs, he though it was some multi.

These strings are 7 hrs old yet play fine. Which is shocking as most polys barely last 6 hrs for me.

 

[ShahofTennis]

Your setup is likely not the cause of the pain, have you considered a medical opinion?

Plus if there were anything uncomfortable about 1.25 YPTP; than your elbow would let you know before your shoulder.

 

[phanker]

I find there's a big difference between the yellow and black YPTP. The yellow is very plush while the black is kinda harsh. Could that be the difference?

 

[stephan_58]

I find there's a big difference between the yellow and black YPTP. The yellow is very plush while the black is kinda harsh. Could that be the difference?

I strung the yellow one...

But I think I figured out what went wrong. And it's actually very simple and very stupid. I just didn't warm up my serve before playing some points. I just remembered that for the last 20 minutes we'd played some games without warming up serves. And me, being the idiot that I am, didn't think about starting slow and easy but instead hit full power right from the beginning. I usually ALWAYS warm up before serving full out, but we were hurried because my friend had to leave soon after. I'm sure this is it because I can't think of anything else. The string most likely has nothing to do with it. I only assumed so because it was more obvious.

Lesson learned. :| Thanks guys.

 

[XFactorer]

This is the second time I'm experiencing some shoulder pain from playing tennis. The first time was after having played on 3 consecutive days pretty intensively. This time it came after 1 hour of playing and it wasn't even that intense. The only difference was that I hit with a freshly strung set of Yonex Poly Tour Pro. What I'm not getting is that before this string, I used the Signum Pro Tornado for quite some time which is actually stiffer than YPTP according to TW university (YPTP: 181.2, SPT: 214.3). I've now switched back to the Tornado, but I'm still wondering why I got that pain.

Am I correct in assuming that the stiffness of a string is what determines the amount of shock to your shoulder? Or is there any other factor that I'm missing? Has anybody else had some similar problems with Poly Tour Pro?

I'm sure you've heard the age old saying, "Correlation does not equal causation."

I play with PolyTour Pro and Spin, no problems here.

 

[Smasher08]

This is the second time I'm experiencing some shoulder pain from playing tennis. The first time was after having played on 3 consecutive days pretty intensively. This time it came after 1 hour of playing and it wasn't even that intense. The only difference was that I hit with a freshly strung set of Yonex Poly Tour Pro. What I'm not getting is that before this string, I used the Signum Pro Tornado for quite some time which is actually stiffer than YPTP according to TW university (YPTP: 181.2, SPT: 214.3). I've now switched back to the Tornado, but I'm still wondering why I got that pain.

Am I correct in assuming that the stiffness of a string is what determines the amount of shock to your shoulder? Or is there any other factor that I'm missing? Has anybody else had some similar problems with Poly Tour Pro?

It's difficult if not impossible to say. I've heard nothing but good things about YPTP until now, so maybe it just doesn't work for you.

If you're playing pain free with Tornado, why change a good thing?

 

[stephan_58]

It's difficult if not impossible to say. I've heard nothing but good things about YPTP until now, so maybe it just doesn't work for you.

If you're playing pain free with Tornado, why change a good thing?

Because I quite liked the YPTP and even considered switching for good if it was more durable than Tornado. It's the only gripe I have with the SPT, I love it the first few hours but after that I feel it loses tension quickly.

 

[GarryClarke]

Hi Stephan

i used (and now am back to) YPTP "Yellow" and have also like others found it to be sublime and very easy on the arm in a full bed,and also considering this string has been used solely in a 2012 PD @ 52/50 or 53/51 and ive tried quite a few setups only to come back to YPTP 125,if yonex ever stop making this string i will give up tennis lol

 

[stephan_58]

Hi Stephan

i used (and now am back to) YPTP "Yellow" and have also like others found it to be sublime and very easy on the arm in a full bed,and also considering this string has been used solely in a 2012 PD @ 52/50 or 53/51 and ive tried quite a few setups only to come back to YPTP 125,if yonex ever stop making this string i will give up tennis lol

Thanks for the input. So it's definitely not the strings.

 

[Rabbit]

Thanks for the input. So it's definitely not the strings.

Just listen to your body. While you may have rationalized the pain this time, if it reoccurs, I'd consider a switch back to something more joint friendly. Poly has a deceptive nature for a great many folks. You hate the feel, but love the results, and then you start to feel a little fatigue in your muscles.....it gets worse, not better....

 

[morandi]

While I found Yonex PTP 17 to be comfortable, I did find that it really shrunk the rackets sweetspot, causing offcenter hits to produce very little pace. This is strung at 45lbs. I did not find this to be the case with RPM and Tourbite.

 

[Deleted member 120290]

Just listen to your body. While you may have rationalized the pain this time, if it reoccurs, I'd consider a switch back to something more joint friendly. Poly has a deceptive nature for a great many folks. You hate the feel, but love the results, and then you start to feel a little fatigue in your muscles.....it gets worse, not better....

While I found Yonex PTP 17 to be comfortable, I did find that it really shrunk the rackets sweetspot, causing offcenter hits to produce very little pace. This is strung at 45lbs. I did not find this to be the case with RPM and Tourbite.

I agree with both of these posts. YPTP may feel plush but it is rather low powered so it can lead you to swing harder than usual, which can lead to injuries and pain.

Your body knows itself a whole lot better than any of us does. Your body may not like YPTP even though most people like its comfort. Believe it or not, there is a small percentage of population who get really sleepy when they drink coffee.

 

[Dimcorner]

Yeah I can fall asleep right after a full cup of coffee no problem. Also not drinking coffee doesn't make me sleepy either.

 

[Sander001]

Joint pain or muscle pain?

 

[Double Handed Backhand]

I strung the yellow one...

But I think I figured out what went wrong. And it's actually very simple and very stupid. I just didn't warm up my serve before playing some points. I just remembered that for the last 20 minutes we'd played some games without warming up serves. And me, being the idiot that I am, didn't think about starting slow and easy but instead hit full power right from the beginning. I usually ALWAYS warm up before serving full out, but we were hurried because my friend had to leave soon after. I'm sure this is it because I can't think of anything else. The string most likely has nothing to do with it. I only assumed so because it was more obvious.

Lesson learned. :| Thanks guys.

Ok so you start bombing your serve without warming up and you blame your strings for getting shoulder pain?

 

[RF19]

So far, I have had this issue of shoulder pain after serving on a couple of different setups, one was on RF97 with (Alu Power, TechFib multifeel) and now with the Yonex ezone DR98 (YPYP 17mm 1.20). I googled and found a couple of exercises, including the ones that Andy from TW. I continued the exercise for a week every day and played on the weekend...no sign of pain. I guess its all up to how you warm up your shoulder before start hitting serves...not to mention the fact that - we get weaker when we age....LOL!!