Signum Pro X Perience

[Stonefield]

Hi,

anyone who has used this string a lot and can give me some feedback on how it plays and compares to other polys such as Scorpion , Co Focus or Silverstring? X Perience is getting very good reviews over here in Europe. Is it worth testing it? I am talking the 1,24 mm version. Which tension would you recommend for this string to get the best playability and durability ? Many thanks

 

[WNB93]

I can't compare it to those strings but I can compare it to Focus Hex (shaped Co-Focus) and Hyper G.
I played the 1,18mm version though. I play 1,20mm Hyper G now only because I got it really cheap.
Otherwise X-Perience is superior imo and much much cheaper.

Imo it has very good snapback, you can feel the ball sink into the stringbed much more than with the other two strings. It is more forgiving on off center hits. The spin is incredible, I find better than with both above stated strings.
The durability is slightly worse than with Hyper G, but slightly.
Overall, I can really recommend the string. It is also made in Germany, unlike most that are made in Taiwan/China. With higher eco standards in Germany, that is a big + for me.

 

[Stonefield]

WNB93 many thanks

i Play a lot of Spin but also use my slice a lot and playing touch shots. How would you rate the string for slice and touch ? it is a shaped poly but not as shaped as other like Hyper G etc right, so the string should be quite consistent still I guess ? I tend to string my poly quite low, around 40 lbs. would it be ok for this kind of string ? Thanks

 

[WNB93]

WNB93 many thanks

i Play a lot of Spin but also use my slice a lot and playing touch shots. How would you rate the string for slice and touch ? it is a shaped poly but not as shaped as other like Hyper G etc right, so the string should be quite consistent still I guess ? I tend to string my poly quite low, around 40 lbs. would it be ok for this kind of string ? Thanks

Where did you get the info that it is not as shaped as Hyper G? I am looking at both now and you can see the shape on the X-Perience but it is almost impossible to see the shape on Hyper G.

The lowest I went with both is 50/48 (it is around 45 when I play it. I usually restring when it goes below 40). So I cannot say really. I can see it working with Hyper G as it is quite low powered (for me at least. It says Power & Spin on the packaging...so I dont know).

My slice is quite bad so I cannot judge compared to other strings as I've only recently started hitting it with more success.

 

[Stonefield]

in the reviews it says it has a shaped profile but not as shaped as other polys. Maybe not Hyper G, I dont know that one. It said to be poly in between round and highly textured, so it should give the best of both worlds. Many thanks, I will give it a try

 

[WNB93]

in the reviews it says it has a shaped profile but not as shaped as other polys. Maybe not Hyper G, I dont know that one. It said to be poly in between round and highly textured, so it should give the best of both worlds. Many thanks, I will give it a try

That is true. I think it is a hex shape versus square on the G.
When you string it, it wont hurt your fingers like some of the other shaped strings. So it is "gently shaped" let's put it that way. Just to add a little bite and a little less friction between strings.
To me, it is the best of both worlds.

 

[Arzivu]

X-perience is my favorite co-poly. For sure, it is not as sharp as other polys but you still get good spin. I think it is quite powerful for a poly, so if you crave control, you can raise the tension a bit (above 23 kg, for a start). In addition, I find it very comfortable, no problems in the arm. You should definetely give it a try!

 

[Yamin]

Thought I'd comment since I had the opposite experience from everyone. I had heard all the praise for signum pro xperience and thought I'd give it a try. I saw conflicting reviews vs. Hyper G and many reported it was softer than it, some said more powerful, some said less. Hyper g is my favorite string and I'm currently injured, so was looking for a softer alternative with similar levels of spin, power, and preferably more comfort.

I'm used to a lot of the poly's I've tried to play stiff off the stringer, then open up a bit to entirely different playing characteristics. I strung signum and hyper g in a blade 18x20 with 46/44 tension. The Signum played stiff as a board for two days, gave me significant arm discomfort from my wrist, forearm, shoulder, and elbow to the point that I had to cut it out and couldn't play again for almost a week. It never opened up and I ended up cutting it out.

Perhaps this was a result of high stiffness and good tension maintenance? The result was lower spin, lower power, much more discomfort. I haven't cut out a string for this reason before but also don't string with anything considered truly stiff. This is probably the only string that I've seen so much praise for on this forum while personally finding it to be horrible. Perhaps it just doesn't work in a blade, or people who are evaluating comfort are people who aren't actually concerned with comfort.

 

[WNB93]

Thought I'd comment since I had the opposite experience from everyone. I had heard all the praise for signum pro xperience and thought I'd give it a try. I saw conflicting reviews vs. Hyper G and many reported it was softer than it, some said more powerful, some said less. Hyper g is my favorite string and I'm currently injured, so was looking for a softer alternative with similar levels of spin, power, and preferably more comfort.

I'm used to a lot of the poly's I've tried to play stiff off the stringer, then open up a bit to entirely different playing characteristics. I strung signum and hyper g in a blade 18x20 with 46/44 tension. The Signum played stiff as a board for two days, gave me significant arm discomfort from my wrist, forearm, shoulder, and elbow to the point that I had to cut it out and couldn't play again for almost a week. It never opened up and I ended up cutting it out.

Perhaps that was a result of high stiffness and good tension maintenance? The result was lower spin, lower power, much more discomfort. I haven't cut out a string for this reason before but also don't string with anything considered truly stiff. This is probably the only string that I've seen so much praise for on this forum while personally finding it to be horrible. Perhaps it just doesn't work in a blade, or people who are evaluating comfort are people who aren't actually concerned with comfort.

I am concerned with comfort, that is why I play with the Clash.
I tried a lot of polys in the Clash recently and I've strung them all at 54 lbs.
To me, it is more comfortable than Hyper G.
But as our swings are all different, I do not see why an opposite outcome can be achieved.
THe difference between the two is so minimal that to me, Hyper G (if you pay full price of 150 vs 75 EUR per reel) is not worth it.

 

[Stonefield]

I also heard that it plays rather soft, so if you string it soft, there should be no reason to kill your arm. It might be your swing or racket (Blade probably is rather stiff depending on the version you use), especially as you had issues with Hyper G in it as well I understand..

 

[Yamin]

I also heard that it plays rather soft, so if you string it soft, there should be no reason to kill your arm. It might be your swing or racket (Blade probably is rather stiff depending on the version you use), especially as you had issues with Hyper G in it as well I understand..

I have the v7 which plays quite soft. I did not have the issues above with Hyper g. Just elbow discomfort with hyper g and exploring to see if there's anything better. I would never recommend pro xperience to anyone over hyper g for anything except maybe tension maintenance, and certainly not for comfort. I suspect people are comparing a thinner gauge xperience to a thicker gauge poly people usually use since TW only offers 1.25 xperience, or it's just horrible in the blade. All things held constant, Hyper G is far superior.

 

[Stonefield]

so whats the magic with Hyper G ? Why is it better than X Perience you think and which version of Hyper G are you playing?

 

[Arzivu]

and certainly not for comfort.

This is the first time I read someone complaining about discomfort regarding the x-perience. Some criticism on these boards has been expressed towards its lack of control and its mediocre tension maintenance but not against its stifness or its response. As I have seen, most people that have played with both strings, describe x-perience as a "more comfortable hyper g". Everyone has his opinion though and I shall respect it!

 

[Yamin]

This is the first time I read someone complaining about discomfort regarding the x-perience. Some criticism on these boards has been expressed towards its lack of control and its mediocre tension maintenance but not against its stifness or its response. As I have seen, most people that have played with both strings, describe x-perience as a "more comfortable hyper g". Everyone has his opinion though and I shall respect it!

Yeah I can only suspect that the "feeling" of comfort might not be equal to actual comfort/shock to your arm. Or people were comparing different gauges (16 hyper g vs 17 xperience). In terms of actual arm health, Hyper G is far better.

 

[Stonefield]

I playtested X Perience today and I am very happy with it. Every stroke seems to work well with this string. Good spin, but nothing too fancy, and very good power for a poly. It is easy to generate pace but still keep the ball in play. It didn’t hurt my arm at all. But i string low tension and play 16/19. this might make a difference. I never played Hyper G but cannot Image that string could even be better. There is not much to dislike about X Perience. Maybe it could be a little more controlled sometimes, but if you have good strokes and a controlled racket, there is no need for a super controlled string I believe. Many thanks

 

[Stonefield]

Just need to see how it plays after 5hs or so. But I heard that it keeps tension well and is durable. The string bed is very consistent, no movement but still somewhat soft and snapping back. Using the 1,24 version by the way

 

[jugheadfla]

In general its a Hyper G clone that is softer and more lively. That being the case it has more power but less control and less crisp. I would imagine it would be very similar to Hyper G soft that just came out, but I haven't tried it yet. Tension maintenance is average. Really enjoyed played with it when I used it at 52 lbs in a 3rd gen PS. I have sworn off all Solinco stings at this point. I know most people love them but the material that they use, for whatever reason, my elbow and shoulder don't agree with.

 

[Stonefield]

btw is X Perience considered to be a rel. crisp string ? I was told a crisp string would work quite well on my flexible racket. TWU says it has a stiffness of around 220, so it should not be a typical soft poly, though it play rather soft in practise. Thanks.

 

[Wheelz]

Just strung X-perience and played a bit with it. First thing I notice is the 1.24 is the heaviest strings I’ve seen so far ! Added 2.2g to 1.3gut/1.25 max power

 

[Arzivu]

Am I the only one still in love with this string?

 

[Grieeegoorr]

Am I the only one still in love with this string?

What is it you love about it?

 

[Arzivu]

What is it you love about it?

Its liveliness, comfort and spin. I adore the sound of the ball leaving the stringbed, it gives such a confident and nice feeling!

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

Its liveliness, comfort and spin. I adore the sound of the ball leaving the stringbed, it gives such a confident and nice feeling!

How does signum pro tornado compare?

 

[Grieeegoorr]

Its liveliness, comfort and spin. I adore the sound of the ball leaving the stringbed, it gives such a confident and nice feeling!

What frame and tension are you using?

 

[Arzivu]

What frame and tension are you using?

A prince o3 phantom at 20 kilos.

 

[veedo]

I am chain-testing hyper-g-like strings the past 6 months and sp x-perience was on the list as well. On paper, they are supposed to be really close, but I much prefer hyper-g, because I can get 8-10 hours of precise aggressive tennis out of it. I tried x-perience at 51/51 and then 53/52, but I couldn’t get more than 4-5 hours of reliable performance each time. After the 5 hour mark, the notching is really visible, I start spraying balls, gaps in the stringbed start opening. This is in a vcore pro 97 310 (2019) modded to 330 SW.

I suppose it could be a better fit for an 18x20 frame with >60 stiffness.

 

[Arzivu]

I am chain-testing hyper-g-like strings the past 6 months and sp x-perience was on the list as well. On paper, they are supposed to be really close, but I much prefer hyper-g, because I can get 8-10 hours of precise aggressive tennis out of it. I tried x-perience at 51/51 and then 53/52, but I couldn’t get more than 4-5 hours of reliable performance each time. After the 5 hour mark, the notching is really visible, I start spraying balls, gaps in the stringbed start opening. This is in a vcore pro 97 310 (2019) modded to 330 SW.

I suppose it could be a better fit for an 18x20 frame with >60 stiffness.

Have you tried the thickest gauge?

 

[veedo]

Have you tried the thickest gauge?

only the 1.24 x-perience, haven’t tried thicker than that. I was looking for a cheaper alternative to 1.25 hyper-g and that’s what came up in the TW string tool.

So far gamma moto is my favourite hg alternative. It feels softer, but no compromise on control and I was pushing 20hrs of solid performance with it. Another notable mention is focus hex - again, supposed to be very close, but feels much stiffer to me, has less feel, needs to be strung ~5lbs lower to protect your arm.

 

[Arzivu]

only the 1.24 x-perience, haven’t tried thicker than that.

I asked because I play with the 1.30 and I wasn't x-periencing (sic!) the early notching you describe. From the other strings you mentioned, I have only tested the focus hex, which is indeed stiffer.

 

[Mirdad]

I've recently added Signum 1.24 x-perience to my string arsenal.

I string my own racquets on a Gamma Progression ELS II and have strung them with X-perience at 43 lbs in both my Angell 100 RA70 and Wilson PS RFA. I've been told by TW that the Gamma strings about a 4 lb tighter bed than the Prince Neos machines they use in house (so keep that in mind when comparing my string tension).

X-perience was easy to string my racquets with only a small bit of kinking but nothing too difficult to manage.

I found X-perience to have medium power and excellent control. Spin was good to excellent. Like most polys, you get the most benefit from the strings with proper technique that generates a good amount of RHS.

The feel at first is a bit stiff but within 15 minutes of hard hitting it softens up very nicely with great ball pocketing being a special feature of these strings. These strings reminded me of some of the softer Yonex strings but with the X-perience better at holding tension. I've also found the durability to be excellent as I'm on my tenth hour of hitting with only a slight hint of the strings losing their elasticity. There is decent snap back and very little wear.

I'd definitely string my Angell about 2 lbs higher as that racquet has a much higher launch angle than my Federer.

Overall, this string is extremely comfortable for a poly and predictable as well.........a nice combination to experience (pun intended.....ha!)

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

I asked because I play with the 1.30 and I wasn't x-periencing (sic!) the early notching you describe. From the other strings you mentioned, I have only tested the focus hex, which is indeed stiffer.

Have you or anyone else tried Tornado? Very interested in that one, I have xperience 1.30 in my prince textreme tour 310 its really good very nice spin power and control. Feels like it has a nice snapback effect to impart spin. Curious how Tornado stacks up in terms of spin especially... Never used any other signum strings

 

[Arzivu]

Have you or anyone else tried Tornado? ... Curious how Tornado stacks up in terms of spin especially...

Unfortunately, not. But my guess is that, being both shaped and twisted, Tornado shall offer more spin but with a deader response (as a black string I suppose it will feel stiffer and not as lively as x-perience).

 

[Kwale]

Im using 16ga Xperience in my Auxetic speed pro strung at 51lbs and absolutely love it! I am a stringer and tried the popular hyper g and confidential but stopped using those due to arm pain and went to xperience for its pocketing, launch, spin, and medium power. It's very surprising to me hearing people say hyper g is more comfortable then xperience and I'm very happy using xperience in full bed in southern California

 

[Arzivu]

I agree with you! You should also give a go to the newest signum offering, polaris. Even more comfortable than x-perience with great feel.

 

[Kwale]

I have a set of Polaris in 16ga and will give it a go but change is tough. I heard it has slightly less spin resulting in a lower launch which should take time away from your opponent

 

[Arzivu]

I didn't notice any notable difference between the two strings in the spin department. X-perience is a slightly shaped string, almost roundish. But that's just my opinion...

 

[KungfuTennis]

As someone who has used a lot of hyperG, x-perience plays really nice. A little more slippery imo

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

Xperience is very good in 2019 textreme tour and matches the frame perfectly as well. Great spin control comfort power