So what happens in this situation?

[Steady Eddy]

In doubles, I'm receiving. The serve is very close, my partner says "out", I return it because it was so close I couldn't stop. My return goes in. Then my partner says that he was wrong. That the serve was actually good.

So the serving team claimed the point as a hindrance. Was that the right call?

 

[Vox Rationis]

Was that the right call?

yes

 

[TennisLulu]

yes

 

[sovertennis]

It's your opponents' point, but not because of a hindrance--as soon as he corrected his incorrect "out" call, the point was theirs. Your return was irrelevant to the decision.

 

[GTR0814]

In doubles, I'm receiving. The serve is very close, my partner says "out", I return it because it was so close I couldn't stop. My return goes in. Then my partner says that he was wrong. That the serve was actually good.

So the serving team claimed the point as a hindrance. Was that the right call?

Yep - if your partner called it out but you agreed it was in, its their point. Happens all the time in doubles.

 

[Dartagnan64]

Yep its servers point. But agree that it's not because of a hindrance. It's because he effectively ended the point with the out call. Then he reversed his decision so he must concede the point if he recognizes his error.

No different than if my opponent hits a deep groundstroke bouncing near the baseline and I flick my racket at it before calling out. No matter where my ball lands if I recognize I made a mistake on the out call and correct it, I must concede the point.

 

[zipplock]

Rule #1: never reverse your call. Your call cannot be overridden. Choose one, in or out and stick to it. If I have to think about whether the ball was in or out, even for a split second, I call the ball in. When I call a ball out there is no doubt in my mind it was out. I will not reverse the call. It's my call.

 

[Deleted member 769694]

In doubles, I'm receiving. The serve is very close, my partner says "out", I return it because it was so close I couldn't stop. My return goes in. Then my partner says that he was wrong. That the serve was actually good.

So the serving team claimed the point as a hindrance. Was that the right call?

Calling a ball out immediately ends the point, since your wrong, you lose it.

I would of played a let. Id rather win or lose the point playing tennis, not talking about it

 

[Subway Tennis]

Technically the server's point from the corrected out call, but I have been in many situations where play would have continued as a nod to the sportsmanship of the returning team correcting their own call.

 

[sovertennis]

Calling a ball out immediately ends the point, since your wrong, you lose it.

I would of played a let. Id rather win or lose the point playing tennis, not talking about it

Agree---in a casual match among friends, often this situation will result in a replay of the point; in a league or tourney match however, the point is over once the correction is made.

 

[Chalkdust]

If you change a call from out to in it's opponents point. But as others have said, in most cases as the opponent I would offer to play a let.

 

[Chalkdust]

Rule #1: never reverse your call. Your call cannot be overridden. Choose one, in or out and stick to it. If I have to think about whether the ball was in or out, even for a split second, I call the ball in. When I call a ball out there is no doubt in my mind it was out. I will not reverse the call. It's my call.

You are right in theory, but in practice we all make bad calls. Unintentionally of course. You may have no doubt in your mind it was out, but sometimes our eyes deceive us.
For example I've called balls out by the baseline where I'm sure it was long, but then I look down and see the mark (on clay) and see that it clipped the baseline.
Of course in those cases I will reverse my call and give the opponent the point. Wouldn't you?

 

[Mongolmike]

Here's how NOT to do it... (but still keep peace on the court....)

doubles play amongst friends (one guy acts like he really doesn't care about winning, but everyone knows he really does - we'll call him Jerry).

They are serving, Jerry is at the net in front of me, I am returning serve on deuce side. Hard serve comes to me, I am late on my forehand and hit a medium paced return shoulder high to Jerry's FH side at the net. Jerry reflex volleys and tries to hit the alley, but clearly hits it out. As soon as it hits out, Jerry proclaims with disgust "the serve was out". I look at my partner, look back at Jerry, again he proclaims "the serve was out".

The serve was close, may very well've been slightly out, but I played it in good faith and my partner did not call it out. Point should've counted as played.

Jerry announces, "2nd serve" to his partner.

On the change over I said to his partner "that was our point". He said "I know...."

Really didn't want to get in a p i ss ing match with Jerry, so no big deal, but it was kinda funny in a shake your head way.... tho I would've taken the point in a tournament or league play. Jerry has never played league, so there are a number of infractions he would be called on I'd think, but again, social play.... shake head and move on.

 

[Dartagnan64]

You are right in theory, but in practice we all make bad calls. Unintentionally of course. You may have no doubt in your mind it was out, but sometimes our eyes deceive us.
For example I've called balls out by the baseline where I'm sure it was long, but then I look down and see the mark (on clay) and see that it clipped the baseline.
Of course in those cases I will reverse my call and give the opponent the point. Wouldn't you?

I think my most common error is prejudging a ball as flying out only to have it drop down on the back of the line. Many of those times I've already got my finger raised and have stopped playing only to be shocked it actually hit the line. I'll reverse that call immediately. But that's a different situation because I'm usually not hitting those balls back. Just stewing at myself for being too optimistic.

 

[zipplock]

You are right in theory, but in practice we all make bad calls. Unintentionally of course. You may have no doubt in your mind it was out, but sometimes our eyes deceive us.
For example I've called balls out by the baseline where I'm sure it was long, but then I look down and see the mark (on clay) and see that it clipped the baseline.
Of course in those cases I will reverse my call and give the opponent the point. Wouldn't you?

If it was close enough to clip the line I wouldn't have called it out in the first place. It's not a game of perfect. There's a reason each side gets to make their own calls and can't be overridden by the other side of the net. I call a generous line to begin with. I'm not reversing my call..

 

[Moveforwardalways]

My high school girlfriend always said, “a real man never changes his mind on an out call”.

 

[J_R_B]

Here's how NOT to do it... (but still keep peace on the court....)

doubles play amongst friends (one guy acts like he really doesn't care about winning, but everyone knows he really does - we'll call him Jerry).

They are serving, Jerry is at the net in front of me, I am returning serve on deuce side. Hard serve comes to me, I am late on my forehand and hit a medium paced return shoulder high to Jerry's FH side at the net. Jerry reflex volleys and tries to hit the alley, but clearly hits it out. As soon as it hits out, Jerry proclaims with disgust "the serve was out". I look at my partner, look back at Jerry, again he proclaims "the serve was out".

The serve was close, may very well've been slightly out, but I played it in good faith and my partner did not call it out. Point should've counted as played.

Jerry announces, "2nd serve" to his partner.

On the change over I said to his partner "that was our point". He said "I know...."

Really didn't want to get in a p i ss ing match with Jerry, so no big deal, but it was kinda funny in a shake your head way.... tho I would've taken the point in a tournament or league play. Jerry has never played league, so there are a number of infractions he would be called on I'd think, but again, social play.... shake head and move on.

Jerry's name is Becky. We are all inclusive and gender neutral here.

 

[FuzzyYellowBalls]

Yes

 

[Chalkdust]

If it was close enough to clip the line I wouldn't have called it out in the first place. It's not a game of perfect. There's a reason each side gets to make their own calls and can't be overridden by the other side of the net. I call a generous line to begin with. I'm not reversing my call..

You've never made a bad call? Good for you. You're in a very select club, membership one.

 

[zipplock]

You've never made a bad call? Good for you. You're in a very select club, membership one.

Never said I never made a mistake, just not aware of it, hence no reversal. Words have meaning man. Relax.

 

[Chalkdust]

Never said I never made a mistake, just not aware of it, hence no reversal. Words have meaning man. Relax.

Hence my qualifier of looking at the mark on clay. You'd be made aware after making a mistake. I assume you would then correct your call?

 

[zipplock]

Hence my qualifier of looking at the mark on clay. You'd be made aware after making a mistake. I assume you would then correct your call?

Haven't experienced that so I can't say. Like I said, calling a liberal line in the first place means I'm not in that position.

 

[sovertennis]

If it was close enough to clip the line I wouldn't have called it out in the first place. It's not a game of perfect. There's a reason each side gets to make their own calls and can't be overridden by the other side of the net. I call a generous line to begin with. I'm not reversing my call..

The exception to this is if you're playing doubles and you make a call of "out" then your partner says that you've made a mistake and says the ball was 'in" the point goes to the opponents. Although you could still claim that your call was correct, your partner's call takes precedent.

 

[zipplock]

The exception to this is if you're playing doubles and you make a call of "out" then your partner says that you've made a mistake and says the ball was 'in" the point goes to the opponents. Although you could still claim that your call was correct, your partner's call takes precedent.

Agreed

 

[McLovin]

doubles play amongst friends (one guy acts like he really doesn't care about winning, but everyone knows he really does - we'll call him Jerry).

Is Jerry related to Becky?

 

[R1FF]

You are right in theory, but in practice we all make bad calls. Unintentionally of course. You may have no doubt in your mind it was out, but sometimes our eyes deceive us.
For example I've called balls out by the baseline where I'm sure it was long, but then I look down and see the mark (on clay) and see that it clipped the baseline.
Of course in those cases I will reverse my call and give the opponent the point. Wouldn't you?

Yes. I’ve self corrected my calls before.

And I’ve corrected teammates )if they ask). I keep my mouth shut tho until then. Even if I know their call was bad. But if the opponent challenges, and my teammate looks to me for confirmation, I have no choice but to be honest with what I (and our opponent) saw. But I wont voluntarily correct my teammate. There’s always a chance I could be wrong.

Because of this I’ve gained some credibility within my hitting circle. It’s not technically legal but because they know Im a stickler for being fair they’ve allowed me to overrule their calls at times. Sometimes I’ll serve an ace up the T from the ad side. Nobody has a better angle on it than me. Both opponents call it out, and if Im certain it was in I let them know and they generally give me back my point.

Im also notorious for confirming their good “close calls” tho. I’ll say “good eye” whenever someone makes a call that could’ve been deemed as marginal, but I agree with the call. Positive reinforcement when a hard call is made correctly goes a long ways imo.

 

[ttbrowne]

Never said I never made a mistake, just not aware of it, hence no reversal. Words have meaning man. Relax.

Huh?!?
If you're not aware that you've ever made a mistake, then how would you know you've made one?

 

[Flootoo]

hmmm this is more complicated than I thought....
Calling it out should mean 2nd serve, no questions. But changing his mind means it was a good serve, and his call interfered with their ability to handle your return. So hindrance is correct, but uncharitable.
Sounds like this isn't the first dodgy call he's made, and they want to make a statement in response to the - quite frankly ****ty - way he tried to claim that your return was the deciding factor.