Spin Effect String Patterns vs Normal Patterns

What do you guys think about the S Patterns? Should i get a "S" pattern again?

  • Yes, I like Spin Effect Patterns. They work for me, and they're great! :)

    Votes: 29 32.6%
  • No, I prefer normal patterns. The extra spin isn't needed when you reach a higher level of play.

    Votes: 35 39.3%
  • No control absolutely with the "S" patterns. Hate it :(

    Votes: 12 13.5%
  • Not sure, It's a love-hate relationship

    Votes: 13 14.6%

  • Total voters
    89

tlm

G.O.A.T.
no harm, no foul. The internet forums take away the ability to tell someone's demeanor and it they are just being funny and a smart @$$ like a lot of my friends.

Basically Ya I am being a smart @$$ about the spin rackets. I think they are overhyped and are better for the string makers as opposed to the players.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
These frames work for a subset of players who have the ability to control them. For folks who can hit flat, they work even better.

They don't work for a lot of people and that's understandable. I don't buy into hype, just results. My record at 18+ 4.0 was 9-1 last year, singles and doubles combined. My game was good enough to get me invites to multiple 4.0 teams, including one that goes to our State Championship year in, year out. I passed on that offer, but it was nice to be wanted by a good group of people and a Captain who knows how to Captain.

Most of time it isn't the bow but rather the archer who makes the difference, but give a good archer a better bow, and he will shoot straighter. ;)

I work in Chicago on occasion. I'll send you a PM if I know I will be in the area a few days. I have several friends from Chicago who live in SC now.

Definitely look me up I would be happy to hit with you that would be fun.
 

cknobman

Legend
Ok tlm, what makes you refer to spin racquets as "granny racquets"?

IMO a "granny racquet" is a racquet built for someone who lacks the strength and/or technique to generate quick/fast racquet head speed.

Therefore, generally speaking, racquets that fall into that category are sub 11oz racquets and/or racquets that are at the extreme upper end of midplus size and all oversize racquets.

So yeah the spin model racuqets that weigh less than 11oz with 100+ size head are granny racquets just like any other non spin racquet in the same spec range.

I'm a 4.0-4.5 (go up and down) level player and recognize I dont have a pro's technique or ability so yeah getting a few more rpms from a spin pattern is nice.

Does it mean I play with a "granny racuqet"? Far from it.
 

Sander001

Hall of Fame
Plus even though I am sure there are some high level players using the spin rackets I am yet to see one.
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There you go, now you have. You're welcome!

Graphite was a major breakthrough and is here to stay. By the looks of the spin racket sales I don't think the same can be said.
That's weird because Wilson has only increased the number of spin pattern racquets in their lineup. Where have you seen the sales figures?
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
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There you go, now you have. You're welcome!

That's weird because Wilson has only increased the number of spin pattern racquets in their lineup. Where have you seen the sales figures?

Really then why have they discontinued a lot of the original spin rackets then? They are still coming out with some but from what I have heard the spin rackets are not selling very well. But like I said time will tell how long they last.
 

Sander001

Hall of Fame
Really then why have they discontinued a lot of the original spin rackets then? They are still coming out with some but from what I have heard the spin rackets are not selling very well. But like I said time will tell how long they last.
For the same reason any racquets are discontinued: They're being replaced by a new lineup. Graphite racquets are here to stay but it don't mean that no graphite frame has ever been discontinued, graphite racquets are discontinued constantly.
Again, show us the sales figures you keep bringing up.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
For the same reason any racquets are discontinued: They're being replaced by a new lineup. Graphite racquets are here to stay but it don't mean that no graphite frame has ever been discontinued, graphite racquets are discontinued constantly.
Again, show us the sales figures you keep bringing up.

The pro at the club I play at sells wilson rackets, he said that he may sell 1 spin racket out of every 12 rackets he sells. The Wilson distributor that comes to the club said the same thing, not near as many spin rackets sold compared to the regular ones.
 

Sander001

Hall of Fame
Makes sense that it's only that particular region since on the whole, Wilson continues to expand their line of spin pattern racquets.
 
Thanks guys for your input! Now that there's a new generation of "S" - pattern racquets (notable the Burn 100S, LS, ULS, Blade 98S 2015) and so on, do you guys think they've refined the technology a bit?
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
I use the Six.One 95S and it's phenomenal...it's not super open like the 99S or the ESP from Prince. So it still has good precision.

agree with this!!

I strung it with kevlar/zx at 75/55lbs. I use also the 18x20 and well I still get precision with the 95s too. I added about 60g to the 95s to get it to be 381g.
 
agree with this!!

I strung it with kevlar/zx at 75/55lbs. I use also the 18x20 and well I still get precision with the 95s too. I added about 60g to the 95s to get it to be 381g.

So you have the 18x20 six one and the 95s one as well in your bag?? which one do you like best?
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
So you have the 18x20 six one and the 95s one as well in your bag?? which one do you like best?

Yep. Its crazy. I just got the 95s. So far I hit the wall and served with it, and from a serve standpoint I like the 95s.

The 95s for some reason doesnt seem as stiff and on the serve at least the extra spin really helps.

Its the honey moon phase for sure and I need to play a match with it, but strung tight as I have it, its pretty boardy and I still have the control, but with the added spin.

I think I might just end up with the 95s. But time will tell. My initial thought is that the 18x20 is less powered and is better for serve/volley but the 95s may be best for baselining...
 
Yep. Its crazy. I just got the 95s. So far I hit the wall and served with it, and from a serve standpoint I like the 95s.

The 95s for some reason doesnt seem as stiff and on the serve at least the extra spin really helps.

Its the honey moon phase for sure and I need to play a match with it, but strung tight as I have it, its pretty boardy and I still have the control, but with the added spin.

I think I might just end up with the 95s. But time will tell. My initial thought is that the 18x20 is less powered and is better for serve/volley but the 95s may be best for baselining...

Yeah hope they don't discontinue the six one series!! even though it looks as if they will, cuz all the pros that were using it now have ps97 pj's...
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
You undoubtably will get more spin, but there is a reason that manufacturers don't do this. It makes the racquet wildly unpredictable. You have no control with an 18x10 or 16x9 stringbed.

It may be fun to try out rallying with a friend but it's not realistic as an everyday racquet.

i feel the same way
its nice to see my kick serve jump up an extra 1'/whatever, but i just hate how my volleys end up 3 courts over :)
 

Alien

Hall of Fame
Thanks guys for your input! Now that there's a new generation of "S" - pattern racquets (notable the Burn 100S, LS, ULS, Blade 98S 2015) and so on, do you guys think they've refined the technology a bit?

Yes they have evolved and improved. I moved from 99s to J100s and felt the improvement (more than one year from first spin racquet, the 99s) and now 98s.

Of course the 98s at 18x16 has more control and spin is not as high. However I find it amazing and I dont understand why people would consider the Blade 16x19 honestly.

Burn is great but too harsh for me.

Demo them.
 
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