The Most influential players of all time

kiki

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There have been GOATS, great champions, great players, can´t miss misses and there have been a select group of men and female that just took the sport higher, deeper than what they found when they started playing.

This is not a thread on who was the greatest in terms of peak play or achievements, rather on big bang influence in the course of tennis history.

To examine it, one neds to have a very long time wise perspective and try to select those moments, those years that made tennis depart from one stage and reach a new one
and those technical, mediatic or social issues that had the most overall impact.

For starting, we have the first truly student of this game whose personality was also so brilliant that himself tennis took another dimension; from the country clubs and poorly covered international competitions to the mass media new and exciting world and the normal people´s general interest.Of course, according to the reach and possibilities at that moment.Bill Tilden for the amateur game was this man, and Jack Kramer ( with the help of another star personality, Pancho Gonzales) was the man whose vision took pro tennis into another echelon.Kramer also accomplished a big technical revolution when he adapted % tennis and S&V and made a brand new mixture out of it.

Those guys had a global impact covering many aspects of the development of the game.And it was Bjorn Borg, in the middle 70´s the man who took the relay and put tennis into another dimension. Basically, the same dimension off which current players basically live from right now, even if 40 yrs later.And not only in terms of mere popularity but also in terms of the way the game changed, with top spin and two fisted BH.

So, we see that Tilden,Kramer and Borg´s influence is firmly established ON court and OFF court.

In the ladies, I think Lenglen, Connolly and King had that same impact, also considering the discriminatory situation that sportswomen had to endure through many decades.

Those are, IMO, the big influencers in global terms as well as historical eras.

Of course, there have been some others with a great impact as well, but more focused on minorities, be it racial (Ashe, who knows if La Nin ) or geographical ( Hoad and Rosewall with Court for Australia, Vilas for Latin America,Santana for Spain,The three Mousketters for France,Becker/Graf for Germany and, of course, Wills and later on Connors&Evert for the USA, maybe Kournikova for Russia).Social impact like the Doherty brothers in the very limited tennis world of their time.Or even, like it was the case of Navratilova and Lendl, their impact on modern training and diet.
 
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Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
Jack Kramer must be the most influential man in tennis history, although much of this was due to the (eventual) impact of his professional tours.

Purely as a player, it would probably be Tilden, Borg or Lendl.

On the women's side, BJK as an overall personality, probably Navratilova as a player.
 

kiki

Banned
Jack Kramer must be the most influential man in tennis history, although much of this was due to the (eventual) impact of his professional tours.

Purely as a player, it would probably be Tilden, Borg or Lendl.

On the women's side, BJK as an overall personality, probably Navratilova as a player.

I don´t think any of these were more influential than Kramer ALSO on he playing side.Kramer invented % tennis and S&V attack, or better said, readapted into one system; and that system was well alive until Borg, and afterwards, unti the Federer era basically lived with what Borg and Lendl developed; top spin % tennis and baseline hard hitting with consistency
 

kiki

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Lenglen, was a predecessor of King, so was Wills while Connoly broke all molds and Mo was the clear predecessor to Evert,Graf and Navratilova, although was not the exact same.

IMO, none of the most mentioned names for GOAT, Laver,Federer,Court,Graf were influential in the sense that is used in this thread.
 

kiki

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Let´s put it in this way.

Tilden´s way of playing tennis was the mainstream until Kramer´s and Kramer´s was the mainstream until Borg.

Lenglen´s/Will´s set that mainstream until Connolly and then came Evert/Navratilova to set the mainstream till now.

That in just mainstream way of play, not political or social or mediatic impact.
 

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
Women-
1. Lenglen- the first true female superstar of the sport. An international sensation. An advocate of women going pro and earning money 40+ years before the WTA. Went pro, earned money, and to add to her mystique died tragically young due to illness. It's a shame she wasn't alive during the push to form the WTA....she would have been a demon of an advocate I think

2. BJK- you can't deny her drive to form the WTA. Her hard work, combined with her fellow original tour founders, made the way for women's tennis to be what it is today. She was also a powerful on court champion to back up her advocacy. Still an active advocate for tennis and other civil rights issues.

3. Evert- reintroduced the baseline game that has since evolved and now dominates the current women's tour. The queen of consistency, part of possible the greatest rivalry ever.

4. Navratilova- brought athleticism to a new level in the women's game for her time in an effort to counter Evert and improve her own game.

5. Serena- whatever you feel about her she has made an empire. In the current sports world where endorsements seem to reign supreme, she is one of the Queens and has shown the importance, even among sportstars, of being your own brand. She's one of the few tennis stars to be household names and to be shown in mainstream commercials. Even if you don't know tennis odds are you know who Serena is.
 
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