The Pool Stick Volley

[fecund345]

I was messin around with an idea to help with low dipping volleys. Especially when they crack a good low one to your inside forehand volley position and you to the inverted protection maneuver that is totally defensive. I don't play amymore but @optic yellow could you check this out and see if the back spin generated is enough to be a stop volley...that dies and is hard for your opponent to get to.

 

[optic yellow]

Hell yeah I'd be happy to. Pretty much the sibling of the classic WTA vertical wipe serve return.

 

[jz000]

lol will try this. I think the ball will just pop up though.

 

[fecund345]

lol will try this. I think the ball will just pop up though.

Make sure it's a fast motion to get maximum backspin☻

 

[jz000]

Actually, there's nothing supporting the racket holding it that way...
So by theory, I will change it to - dump into net lol.

 

[fecund345]

Theory are always subject to proof via experimentation and all results must be repeatable to prove your theoŕy.☻

 

[optic yellow]

How fast do you envision the incoming ball and at what height? I'm struggling a bit with this hitting the exact same way you depict holding it because I suck at pool but my sense that it does work, and depending on where you are on the court massive backspin isn't even necessarily required.

 

[fecund345]

Ball coming in slow, I would not use this shot because I have time. Coming in hot, not enough time without hours and maybe days of muscle memory practice. Medium speed balls, chest to waist high. Angle should be adjusted to clear the net,more or less downward tilt. Plus you have to explode the racket forward with the pool stick action to match the splice action of a bh splice, except theoretcally are eliminating all sidespin influences that you have on a normal backhand splice. The affect should be pure bacspin that creates a huls hoop affect that goes backwards on the bouce or bounces and skids through the court based on the attack angle of the stroke.

 

[fecund345]

Actually, there's nothing supporting the racket holding it that way...
So by theory, I will change it to - dump into net lol.

After your field trial, what is the verdict?

 

[optic yellow]

Ball coming in slow, I would not use this shot because I have time. Coming in hot, not enough time without hours and maybe days of muscle memory practice. Medium speed balls, chest to waist high. Angle should be adjusted to clear the net,more or less downward tilt. Plus you have to explode the racket forward with the pool stick action to match the splice action of a bh splice, except theoretcally are eliminating all sidespin influences that you have on a normal backhand splice. The affect should be pure bacspin that creates a huls hoop affect that goes backwards on the bouce or bounces and skids through the court based on the attack angle of the stroke.

It is pretty hard to set this up off the wall tbh. I find with grip like a pool cue it is difficult to think about hitting with real power because the wrist is in such a weak position of leverage. It for sure does work for popping it up obnoxiously over the net very short, on both medium pace and slow pace balls too.

 

[fecund345]

Not a power shot...pop up short and die us what it is for. Eureka!..can it be run down easily? Is the pop up to high. It should work like a drop shot

 

[fecund345]

Not a power shot...pop up short and die us what it is for. Eureka!..can it be run down easily? Is the pop up to high. It should work like a drop shot

Like a Drop shot...stop volley...is what i want

What is a stop volley?


/ˈstɑːp vɑːli/ (in tennis) a shot played from close to the net, before the ball bounces, in which you send the ball only a short distance back over the net.

 

[optic yellow]

Not a power shot...pop up short and die us what it is for. Eureka!..can it be run down easily? Is the pop up to high. It should work like a drop shot

No the pop up height can be controlled quite easily. I just am not sure there needs to be any conscious fixation on backspin generation, this feels very secondary to getting the other launch parameters right. Maybe against a better player it is more important. As you said, like a drop shot.

 

[optic yellow]

I also found it pretty trivial to flick lob from the same preparation, obviously with less control, but still useful option if someone cheats forward too much anticipating your fancy trick with it.

 

[fecund345]

I am fixated on the backspin because i want it to roll a little backwards toward and then roll forward with low bounce and die...make ooponent have little chance for reyturn standing behind thre baseline. Theoretically if your pool stick poke was fast enough the ball would bounce back over the net to your side...but the no one's wrists are no strong enough...its just good enough if the shot is unplayable by your opponent...two bounces before they get there

 

[optic yellow]

I am fixated on the backspin because i want it to roll a little backwards toward and then roll forward with low bounce and die...make ooponent have little chance for reyturn standing behind thre baseline. Theoretically if your pool stick poke was fast enough the ball would bounce back over the net to your side...but the no one's wrists are no strong enough...its just good enough if the shot is unplayable by your opponent...two bounces before they get there

Yeah my thought was that if they're on the baseline and you get the low clearance and low power right they're going to really struggle to get to it whether or not you can do work with the backspin.