Thiem can win FO and USO

[Pantera]

Huge breakthrough for Thiem..who like Nadal prefers 5 set wars of attrition. Thiem now up there with Nadal and Djokovic as only realistic contenders for FO and USO.

He is worth putting money on for both as will get good odds.

 

[DSH]

Huge breakthrough for Thiem..who like Nadal prefers 5 set wars of attrition. Thiem now up there with Nadal and Djokovic as only realistic contenders for FO and USO.

He is worth putting money on for both as will get good odds.

He has the seasons 2019, 2020 and 2021 where he can aspire to the aforementioned majors (of course his chance is still much higher in the Parisian clay than in the hard courts, slow but is cement after all, of NY)
The one who plays (Nadal or Djokovic) the Austrian before the final in the next RG will draw "the lucky ticket".
Schwarzenegger now has someone to leave his most famous role on cinema screens:
Ich heiße Thiem!

 

[EloQuent]

That thing we do where we assume a guy who wins will never lose again? Let's not.

 

[Sudacafan]

This is the first epic win of Thiem.
Credit to be given to new coach Massú?

 

[mbm0912]

Great win today for Dominic. He can surely produce some devastating tennis.

 

[Deleted member 763024]

Is this where we’re supposed to get on the bandwagon ?

 

[Backspin1183]

He will win a Thiem Slam (non calendar 5 slams in a row) soon.

 

[Meles]

Huge breakthrough for Thiem..who like Nadal prefers 5 set wars of attrition. Thiem now up there with Nadal and Djokovic as only realistic contenders for FO and USO.

He is worth putting money on for both as will get good odds.

With Thiem's 2018 US Open on their new surface which suits his game better, one could easily argue that he might have won the entire event if he'd gotten by Nadal in hindsight. Delpo was next and was pretty bad in final despite walking over Nadal in two sets in his SF. Given Thiem's track record with Delpo, I expect he might have pulled that one out. With the likes of Khachanov and Zedrot beating him late in the year, not completely out of the question that Thiem might prevail given he's won their last two matches pretty handily.

I think Miami will be a great further test for Thiem. Faster than IW, but shortly following so if Thiem able to play to his seed, SF, that would be a strong sign for Thiem's chances at US Open.

 

[MeatTornado]

He (barely) beat Roger today with his ground game redlining.

Keeping up that level of play for 7 Bo5 matches with everything on the line is a whole different beast.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

It would be pretty cool if these guys can win some slams now, not gonna lie. But I'll believe it when I see it. Nothing against Thiem

 

[NEW_BORN]

Well if someone's gonna break through and win a slam, i hope it's Thiem. His attitude is really commendable. Plus those ohbhs are a thing of beauty.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

 

[Kalin]

Is this where we’re supposed to get on the bandwagon ?

Many of us have been on the bandwagon since the legendary 'Thiem next top 10' thread from several years ago (which seems to have disappeared). It was clear that Thiem needed some new coaching ideas, a more aggressive playing attitude and, as usual, a dose of luck. Seems things finally fell in place for him.

 

[Bender]

Why not just stop at RG and USO?

He can win Wimbledon as well, and also complete the clay sweep and the NA HC swing.

If he wins with RG with the roof closed then he will also sweep the indoor HC swing and the WTF as well straight setting everyone, then use that momentum to win the AO, completing the Thiem Slam, and becoming Thiem 2.0, ie the DomiGod / DominaThiem / Domi Moore.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Excellent work, Dominic. Your Indian Wells strings stock is rising,

 

[Purplemonster]

Huge breakthrough for Thiem..who like Nadal prefers 5 set wars of attrition. Thiem now up there with Nadal and Djokovic as only realistic contenders for FO and USO.

He is worth putting money on for both as will get good odds.

I wouldn’t discount Federer for either of the FO, Wimbledon or USO titles.

 

[weakera]

I wouldn’t discount Federer for either of the FO, Wimbledon or USO titles.

 

[junior74]

Monday morning TT madness after a tournament with an unexpected champion

The real question:

Will Thiem ever lose a match again?

 

[guitarra]

Of course he can. Will he? Maybe. I mean, I would love it. This is Dominic's time to shine. Come on!!!!!!

 

[I Am Finnish]

With Thiem's 2018 US Open on their new surface which suits his game better, one could easily argue that he might have won the entire event if he'd gotten by Nadal in hindsight. Delpo was next and was pretty bad in final despite walking over Nadal in two sets in his SF. Given Thiem's track record with Delpo, I expect he might have pulled that one out. With the likes of Khachanov and Zedrot beating him late in the year, not completely out of the question that Thiem might prevail given he's won their last two matches pretty handily.

I think Miami will be a great further test for Thiem. Faster than IW, but shortly following so if Thiem able to play to his seed, SF, that would be a strong sign for Thiem's chances at US Open.

That name is so horrible please stop

 

[mahesh69a]

Smart title - does not mention any year or timeline (it could also be in the seniors tour far into the future).

 

[Sudacafan]

Monday morning TT madness after a tournament with an unexpected champion

The real question:

Will Thiem ever lose a match again?

Wrong question.
The opposite question should be made regarding his yesterday’s opponent.

 

[Sudacafan]

Curb your enthusiasm.
25.5 years old is rather late to win your first big title.

 

[reaper]

He has the seasons 2019, 2020 and 2021 where he can aspire to the aforementioned majors (of course his chance is still much higher in the Parisian clay than in the hard courts, slow but is cement after all, of NY)
The one who plays (Nadal or Djokovic) the Austrian before the final in the next RG will draw "the lucky ticket".
Schwarzenegger now has someone to leave his most famous role on cinema screens:
Ich heiße Thiem!

I think his chance of winning a slam is better on hard court while ever Nadal is around and playing well. The USO might be his chance for a breakthrough slam.

 

[Kalin]

Curb your enthusiasm.
25.5 years old is rather late to win your first big title.

Well... reading through the list of recent winners it ain't bad at all. Apart from Zverev, which player younger than Thiem has won a big one recently?

 

[uscwang]

I'm not sure if beating Raonic and Federer in a BO3 is now the touchstone for imminent GS champions these days.
Thiem won all of 3 matches before IW. As the freshest player of the tournament, he was lucky to get a walk over vs. Monfils and to win two close matches vs. Raonic and Federer.
His tennis is fun to watch. But he can burn himself out easily. I'll put him as dangerous opponent for Novak and Nadal in early rounds but not late in a GS.

 

[uscwang]

Well... reading through the list of recent winners it ain't bad at all. Apart from Zverev, which player younger than Thiem has won a big one recently?

Khachanov

 

[Kalin]

Khachanov

Good one, I missed him. But still not that many.

I was just thinking that with Thiem finding his footing and Zverev hopefully regaining his form from last year they may be able to form some kind of a (admittedly lesser) united front similar to the one the big 4 had for all these years.

It was kind of acknowled that the likes of Tsitsipas, FAA, Shapovalov's etc will rule the tour not long from now. I, for one, would love to see the Lost Gen (Raonic and, dare I hope, Grigorius) and the Not Yet Totally Lost One (President and only member: Dominic Thiem) + perennial favorite ABZ putting up some fight and ruling the roster, even if for a few years only. Let the youngsters earn their keep. The Lost Gen has suffered enough!

 

[Sudacafan]

Well... reading through the list of recent winners it ain't bad at all. Apart from Zverev, which player younger than Thiem has won a big one recently?

None, actually. My comment just was to continue keeping our spirits low. After a Fed loss, we should pay respect like this.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

It would be pretty cool if these guys can win some slams now, not gonna lie. But I'll believe it when I see it. Nothing against Thiem

My thoughts as well. Was happy to see Thiem pull out the win yesterday. I’m hopeful he’ll be a factor in majors other than the FO moving forward. He gave Rafa a very good match at USO last year.

 

[Meles]

He (barely) beat Roger today with his ground game redlining.

Keeping up that level of play for 7 Bo5 matches with everything on the line is a whole different beast.

But Thiem has already proven himself in Bo5 on clay with similar redlining (to be sure Miami was his highest raw level to date); he's no Zverev and at 25 starting to get into his stamina prime and of course the serving shown at IW will help Thiem immensely.

 

[I Am Finnish]

Uso is the easiest slam to win

 

[Purplemonster]

Sarcasm - the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

 

[Meles]

Curb your enthusiasm.
25.5 years old is rather late to win your first big title.

Muster won RG at age 28. Nadal and Djoko take first US Open titles at age 24 and Thiem was much closer than it looked in 2018 run. Thiem also visually the fastest I've seen him play at age 25.5 which is a shock as I'd assumed this time last year would be the latest his speed peak might happen. No need to curb enthusiasm. The tour has changed with Poly strings and its much, much harder to break through at an earlier age as stamina, power, and serve now rate higher than raw speed pushing prime/peak play to a much later age. Federer is a poor example in my book, but even he did not take off until later age. The days of teenage talent ruling the top of the game are over. Thiem will be getting betterer in those three areas for years and years to come, so this is just the beginning of his peak period.

 

[Meles]

I'm not sure if beating Raonic and Federer in a BO3 is now the touchstone for imminent GS champions these days.
Thiem won all of 3 matches before IW. As the freshest player of the tournament, he was lucky to get a walk over vs. Monfils and to win two close matches vs. Raonic and Federer.
His tennis is fun to watch. But he can burn himself out easily. I'll put him as dangerous opponent for Novak and Nadal in early rounds but not late in a GS.

Thiem would have absolutely destroyed Monfils:
10/2019 QF Indian Wells Masters Hard Dominic Thiem Gael Monfils w/o (Monfils knew what was coming)
7/2018 SF Buenos Aires Clay Dominic Thiem Gael Monfils 6-2 6-1
1/2018 SF Doha Hard Gael Monfils Dominic Thiem WO 2.50 - 1.50 (Thiem very ill and would have won otherwise)
10/2017 R16 Indian Wells Masters Hard Dominic Thiem Gael Monfils 6-3 6-2 1.91 - 1.83
45/2016 RR A ATP World Tour Finals I Hard Dominic Thiem Gael Monfils 6-3 1-6 6-4
32/2016 R16 Cincinnati Masters Hard Dominic Thiem Gael Monfils WO
30/2015 SF Umag Clay Dominic Thiem Gael Monfils 1-6 6-3 6-1 2.70 - 1.42

 

[acintya]

yesterday all board was rooting for Fed, now everybody is a Thiem fan.



I said like a few years back that Thiem and Djokovic are the ones who could dig the RG trophy besides Nadal.

 

[Meles]

Sarcasm - the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

Well when you have RF as RG contender what were you expecting? Glad to see Federe's game back on track after scary false decline of 2nd half of 2018, but he's no threat at the French. Hopefully Clayerer comes to his senses and plays Madrid this year where he may have his best shot at big title on clay.

 

[Sudacafan]

yesterday all board was rooting for Fed, now everybody is a Thiem fan.



I said like a few years back that Thiem and Djokovic are the ones who could dig the RG trophy besides Nadal.

It's obvious you did not consider me in your inaccurate data research samples.

 

[Sudacafan]

Well when you have RF as RG contender what were you expecting? Glad to see Federe's game back on track after scary false decline of 2nd half of 2018, but he's no threat at the French. Hopefully Clayerer comes to his senses and plays Madrid this year where he may have his best shot at big title on clay.

If RF could not do it at IW, he does not have any chance in Madrid.

 

[EloQuent]

If RF could not do it at IW, he does not have any chance in Madrid.

Madrid is faster tho.

 

[Sudacafan]

Madrid is faster tho.

But you are not considering the allergy to that surface.

 

[Sudacafan]

Great win today for Dominic. He can surely produce some devastating tennis.

Sure, his win left me devastated.

 

[Rubens]

Thiem will become the biggest name in tennis history. All over the globe, there will be theme parks dedicated to his glory. They will be called Thiem parks.

 

[EloQuent]

But you are not considering the allergy to that surface.

What allergy? He's arguably the 2nd best clay player in history, definitely a top 5.

 

[weelie]

Thiem is a frustrating guy to watch and support. Plays like some of the WTA pros I hate to watch: All out all the time, with no plan or brain in it. But sure, he might be learning and getting better, so yeah he could win everything at some point. Crazier things have happened, but then again there a lot of crazy things that never actually happened.

 

[BGod]

Default. Default. Default!!!

Of course a guy like Thiem who takes the sport seriously and has matured will be able to win eventually when the Big 3 are gone.

 

[Sudacafan]

What allergy? He's arguably the 2nd best clay player in history, definitely a top 5.

Clay allergy.
Sure, but a lot of time has passed since, without any revalidation of that status.

 

[EloQuent]

Clay allergy.
Sure, but a lot of time has passed since, without any revalidation of that status.

or invalidation

 

[kevaninho]

Didn't everyone say the same about Zverev with his masters titles? LOL

 

[kishnabe]

USO is possible with a 2017 Nadal like draw.

FO, he going to win it one day. Nadal can't always win every year...eventually age will make it harder.