Vantage 95"

djoko4thewin

djoko4thewin

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pepka said:
Dude, You're from UK :)... U can demo them with no problem. It's 20£ i think but if You buy a racquet later it's 20£ off. So it's basicly free ;-)
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Yeah i just realised :) although there's bound to be something i want changed cause the demo one will not be exactly how i like it. Plus wouldn't it be expensive to send back?
 
djoko4thewin

djoko4thewin

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mozzer said:
Ahh, 10pts headlight, 95", 63RA, 16x19
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Thanks. Iv had kblade tours and yt rad MP with extra weight. Would your setup or one similiar with a closed string pattern suit me going on previous rackets or would those rackets be better. Or is it not possible to compare?

Secondly how does the racket play exactly? because your specs are really nice except iv been used to a closed pattern so it might be a good choice.
 
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larry10s

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djoko4thewin said:
Thanks. Iv had kblade tours and yt rad MP with extra weight. Would your setup or one similiar with a closed string pattern suit me going on previous rackets or would those rackets be better. Or is it not possible to compare?

Secondly how does the racket play exactly? because your specs are really nice except iv been used to a closed pattern so it might be a good choice.
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vantage makes a 95 in an 18x20 pattern if you are looking for closed pattern
 
mozzer

mozzer

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Never used the racquets you wanna ocmpare with.

I really have no clue how to tell you how it plays other than plush.
 
djoko4thewin

djoko4thewin

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larry10s said:
vantage makes a 95 in an 18x20 pattern if you are looking for closed pattern
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Thanks, i noticed that but the 16x19 pattern i like for the extra power and spin i get. May have to demo one for sure, iv tried one with the pattern but the other specs were much different.

mozzer said:
Never used the racquets you wanna ocmpare with.

I really have no clue how to tell you how it plays other than plush.
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Alright. Well maybe some other people here who have used the klbade tour 93 could tell me how they compare that would be great. Have you always used a open string pattern or? cause iv used a closed most of the time but have demoed rackets with a open one and liked it.
 
Meaghan

Meaghan

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won my winter singles league match today 4&2 but broke a string early and had to play with my bc30 (100"). Its modded and extended to meet my bc20 spec and wow its some racket too. Ive playtested it but preferred the 95" so its been sitting in my bag. Today was a good chance to play under some difficult conditions. This is one of the easiest rackets ive used did everything well, esp from the baseline, very comfortable, feels slightly stiffer than my 95" although its flexier at 45ra, this might be due to string selection ??
 
djoko4thewin

djoko4thewin

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larry10s said:
vantage makes a 95 in an 18x20 pattern if you are looking for closed pattern
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Thanks. Iv used a kblade tour before and basically always a 18x20 pattern. But would it be a good idea to try a open pattern or is it all preference. For example would i hit the same amount of topspin using kblade or a vantage with similiar specs?
 
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Deee

Rookie
Open will get u more spin, but how much more. I get just a tiny less spin with a Vantage 18x20 than a PDR. However a lot more control.
 
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Deee

Rookie
Just a quick update on my experience with Vantage.

18x20 27.25 10pt HL 320g unstrung, ProLine II 50/52

It was a bit difficult switching from a rocket launcher (PDRGT+) to a player's racquet, I had to admit that my swing with my old racquet did not work with Vantage.

The Vantage demanded a full complete swing and not a lazy flick of the wrist. I found a lot of power even with 18x20 and control was definitely better, I am looking for more ball pocketing since it feels a bit stiff still which I think with fine tuning of string tension, it can be achieved.

I am still hitting the ball with the rim on some shots as I am getting accustomed to the smaller frame, great reward if I get the sweetspot, the ball explodes off the frame with great feel.

Spin potential is a tiny less on groundstrokes. I did however lose quite a bit on my kickserve as what worked with the PDR did not work with the Vantage, but its fixable.
 
djoko4thewin

djoko4thewin

Professional
Deee said:
Open will get u more spin, but how much more. I get just a tiny less spin with a Vantage 18x20 than a PDR. However a lot more control.
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Thanks. So do you think it is worth staying with 18x20 if iv used that pattern for my old racket?

also what is the strung weight of your 320g unstrung racket?
 
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Deee

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349g full poly with 2 overgrips on top of leather. The SW is probably lower than PDR, but static weight is more, hence why I couldnt get my kickserve going, and a lot longer than I thought to get used to this racquet.

I honestly don't miss anything from 16x19 after going 18x20. I could hit some very heavy topspin with PDR, but lacked confidence to hit it keep.

If you have used closed pattern, stay with it, the consequences outweight the benefits of open imo.

Others have stated that this racquet is very sensitive to strings and tensions, beware of that. I am finding this to be very true. I had a very bad experience with syngut and poly hybrid. I think I can hit with most string combos on a modern racquet, whereas some combos on the vantage just don't work, period.
 
djoko4thewin

djoko4thewin

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Thanks Deee. Nice summary. That weight seems good. I used to use a kblade tour with 324g unstrung which i found a good weight. Latest racket is 348g unstrung but too much weight for me. Do i go down to 320 or 330g for a vantage. If you can help thanks.
 
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larry10s

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djoko4thewin said:
Thanks Deee. Nice summary. That weight seems good. I used to use a kblade tour with 324g unstrung which i found a good weight. Latest racket is 348g unstrung but too much weight for me. Do i go down to 320 or 330g for a vantage. If you can help thanks.
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strings add about 15 grams and move the balance point 2-3 units towards less headlight
dampener and overgrip can add about 9 grams about 1-2 units more headlight
hope that helps
 
djoko4thewin

djoko4thewin

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larry10s said:
strings add about 15 grams and move the balance point 2-3 units towards less headlight
dampener and overgrip can add about 9 grams about 1-2 units more headlight
hope that helps
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Thanks. Well it's good to know cause 320g unstrung would roughly come to 344g which is a good weight i think. Basically swinging my unstrung current racket. I mean even that weight is almost the same as murray's so how can i go wrong. I'm younger than him and obviously not as built as him so maybe anything higher (330g u) wouldn't be a good idea. Iv used a kblade tour and prestige MP which i liked and they were 320g ish unstrung so yeah..Let me know what you think.
 
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Deee

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Others have said 310g and add lead. I see no reason to go 330g, its too much. You can add weight, but you can't lose weight. Go with 320g.
 
djoko4thewin

djoko4thewin

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Deee said:
Others have said 310g and add lead. I see no reason to go 330g, its too much. You can add weight, but you can't lose weight. Go with 320g.
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Thanks for the advice. Do you think if i went for racket specs similiar to the kblade tour or prestige MP with 18x20 etc would it be a nicer racket than the ones i just said? Because i'm kind of used to those specs but not sure if it would be a better racket or i should change something up and go for a different pattern or something. I mean prestige MP's specs are good arn't they?
 
Meaghan

Meaghan

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dee is right go for the 95" 63ra 320g unstrung 10pts HL, leaves a little room for mods with strings weighing around 20g and prob a touch of lead at 12 in the hoop to up swingweight.
 
djoko4thewin

djoko4thewin

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Thanks meaghan. So would it play better than my old klbade tours or rad MP? I'm guessing it would as it has the best specs for me with a prefered weight.
 
Meaghan

Meaghan

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djoko4thewin said:
Thanks meaghan. So would it play better than my old klbade tours or rad MP? I'm guessing it would as it has the best specs for me with a prefered weight.
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its the difference between a rad mp and pt57 or a kblade and a h22. The pro stock versions have the x factor, the Vantage is like playing a pro stock racket. The vantage bast core are out soon too (11/2) and imo are the best Ive playtested out of the hundreds ive tried. The 95" comes in the spec i mentioned above but with an open pattern There's a pic are on Donnay vs Vantage thread
 
djoko4thewin

djoko4thewin

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Meaghan said:
its the difference between a rad mp and pt57 or a kblade and a h22. The pro stock versions have the x factor, the Vantage is like playing a pro stock racket. The vantage bast core are out soon too (11/2) and imo are the best Ive playtested out of the hundreds ive tried. The 95" comes in the spec i mentioned above but with an open pattern There's a pic are on Donnay vs Vantage thread
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Thanks. Sounds like vantage is the way to go. What's so good about the bast core? and is it worth waiting for instead of buying the current vantages.
 
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larry10s

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djoko4thewin said:
Thanks. Well it's good to know cause 320g unstrung would roughly come to 344g which is a good weight i think. Basically swinging my unstrung current racket. I mean even that weight is almost the same as murray's so how can i go wrong. I'm younger than him and obviously not as built as him so maybe anything higher (330g u) wouldn't be a good idea. Iv used a kblade tour and prestige MP which i liked and they were 320g ish unstrung so yeah..Let me know what you think.
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im 57 my racquet 330gm 305 mm
strung with babolat vs team 17, becker dampener, and wilson pro overgrip comes to
354/356 grams (2 racquets)

12.4/12.5 oz

9/8 points headlight

no problem swinging the racquet(sw330) all day long
 
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Deee

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Now I am tempted to try the BC20. Coming from a PDR, I am loving the extra recoil/whip of the lower flex Vantage.

However I do want to get another Vantage so I can have a pair of 95s............. I hope I don't end up with 4 Vantage sticks at the end of the year.....
 
Meaghan

Meaghan

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Deee said:
Now I am tempted to try the BC20. Coming from a PDR, I am loving the extra recoil/whip of the lower flex Vantage.

However I do want to get another Vantage so I can have a pair of 95s............. I hope I don't end up with 4 Vantage sticks at the end of the year.....
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The main difference for me with the original 95 and the bc20 is in the way it flexes. The bc is made from natural fibres and behaves differently when striking firmer shots. You feel the bend and recoil. Its not a noodle as some might say with its low flex its just what you would get i expect using natural fibres. Its still very crisp like the original but there is just that something extra about it.
 
djoko4thewin

djoko4thewin

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larry10s said:
im 57 my racquet 330gm 305 mm
strung with babolat vs team 17, becker dampener, and wilson pro overgrip comes to
354/356 grams (2 racquets)

12.4/12.5 oz

9/8 points headlight

no problem swinging the racquet(sw330) all day long
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Thanks larry. I should go for a demo of the VT221 and see how i get on. If it#'s good ill keep it if not ill drop weight down to 320g.
 
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its_me_leon

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Deee said:
Others have said 310g and add lead. I see no reason to go 330g, its too much. You can add weight, but you can't lose weight. Go with 320g.
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I would go for the lightest and most HL version. To achief this they have to find a light frame.
I will explain. I ordered two VT321 100 inch,27 inch, 16 x 19, 310 Gr, 9pts hl with leather base, Wilson shaped grip. This is a real challenge for Vantage and when I received my racquets one of them was about 2 points off in balance. It turned out that they had to replace the frame. Everything was dealed with fine.
Also it is quite easy to alter your Vantage racquet. I tweaked mine a bit by making it a bit more HL by putting on a synthetic base grip and added some weight under the butt cap. Also changed the grip from W3 to W2. When ordering the racquet my specs were based on a Wilson nBlade. The Wilson grip 3 is a tad smaller than the Vantage W3.

I really like my Vantage racquets.

I also ordered the team 9 bag, but I don't like it. It is too saggy. It does not keep it's shape like some Wilson or Babolat bags do.

Right now I'm debating whether I should order some 95 inch frames, just to compare.
 
SBD

SBD

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I hope on the 11th which is this friday, vantage releases some racquets i can buy from stores at regular prices, and maybe tennis warehouse will carry these, I really hope this happens.
 
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martyr444

Rookie
I just listed on the Forum right now but won't show up until admin approval. Both are easlily 9/10 clean frames with light bumper scratching. 4 3/8 grips and seen very little use. 310mm balance and 320g unstrung weight.

$110 each shipped UPS in USA or both for $200 shipped USA.

Got pics upon request.
 
Meaghan

Meaghan

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SBD said:
I hope on the 11th which is this friday, vantage releases some racquets i can buy from stores at regular prices, and maybe tennis warehouse will carry these, I really hope this happens.
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I second this but I dont think its as easy as that. Im sure Paul and Sven are actively seeking the right outlets for their rackets. Hopefully TW will carry them too.
 
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Deee

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That would be awesome, to be able to buy racquets through retailers.

Meaghan, you have any information if they'll do a (anniversary) sale with the new releases?
 
Meaghan

Meaghan

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Deee said:
That would be awesome, to be able to buy racquets through retailers.

Meaghan, you have any information if they'll do a (anniversary) sale with the new releases?
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I honestly dont know but I think it would be unwise if they was trying to promote their new line of Bast Core rackets.....
 
Meaghan

Meaghan

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Just wanted to add that I strung up my BC20 a couple of pounds lower than normal for a match tonight and the solinco barb wire feels absolutely great, no percievable tension loss overnight, they feel very playable and seem to suit that tension. Dont get me wrong they were lovely at 62lbs but at this tension it slightly opens up the sweetspot.

Honestly folks if you like stiff performance strings with no arm issues then this new Bast Core 20 (95" headsize) just flexes so nicely that the feel is amazing. Its gonna be a big hit Im sure and give those youngsters the chance to play with something reminiscent of the quality of say an Austrian graphite pro or comfort edge.......:)
 
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Deee

Rookie
Thats awesome,

At 52/56 ProLine II 17/Gamma Livewire 17, I am still finding the string bed to be a little stiff in a 18x20. The feel of this racquet is amazing, but I have yet to find the perfect combination.

Meaghan, since you have so much experience. Would you mind if I send you an email on a matter related to vantage racquet?
 
Meaghan

Meaghan

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Deee said:
Thats awesome,

At 52/56 ProLine II 17/Gamma Livewire 17, I am still finding the string bed to be a little stiff in a 18x20. The feel of this racquet is amazing, but I have yet to find the perfect combination.

Meaghan, since you have so much experience. Would you mind if I send you an email on a matter related to vantage racquet?
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cool no probs richardmeaghan@hotmail.co.uk
 
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levy1

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jelle v said:
Hey Gee,

Thanks, and no, unfortunately I don't have experience with Vantage rackets. The thing is, I like to demo a racket before i purchase it, so I've never been willing to take the risk with Vantage rackets, even though the price seems reasonable :-| I've recently graduated from Law School, and maybe when I am making some money from that, I might give Vantage a try. For now I just need to be sure that I like a racket before I buy it. :)

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As you can understand: I'm really curious what your experience is going to be with Vantage, so i hope you will give this thread a kick, once you've played with your Vantages :)
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Sven has sent me a demo before. Maybe because I have bought a few rackets.
 
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Yonex94

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Is there something wrong with the Vantage website? I want to buy a few sticks and I'm unable to add the customized racquets to my cart?
 
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levy1

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Yonex94 said:
Is there something wrong with the Vantage website? I want to buy a few sticks and I'm unable to add the customized racquets to my cart?
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Look at my Vantage for sale post and see if it matches what you want. I can come down some
 
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