Video of Forehands and Serves, Getting Back Into Tennis

[CornOnTheCob]

What's up yall,

I played tennis for 4 years back and high school and have been on a 3 hiatus. I'm looking to get back into playing and just bought 2 Pure Strike 16x19's. Still working on getting crisper footwork and getting better timing but I was wondering I could get some comments and critiques on how my strokes and serve look so far.

In high school I has exclusively doubles so my groundstrokes aren't that well developed yet.

hitting forehands:

serves:

 

[Steady Eddy]

Welcome back to tennis.

I can't say about strokes. I'm not a big believer in form.

 

[FiReFTW]

Yes your groundstrokes need work, but you have some good things going for you already, some time with a coach and alot of hours playing and you should be really good really fast.

Serve looks very good from what can be seen in the low quality blurry video.

 

[CornOnTheCob]

Yes your groundstrokes need work, but you have some good things going for you already, some time with a coach and alot of hours playing and you should be really good really fast.

Serve looks very good from what can be seen in the low quality blurry video.

Anything specific about my ground strokes jump out to you right off the bat?

 

[FiReFTW]

Anything specific about my ground strokes jump out to you right off the bat?

Your spacing and positioning needs work, but thats completely normal for even players playing for 1 or 2 years and a long process.
In your open stance usually your body is leaning back and your on the backfoot alot of the times.
Not sure about bent arm forehands as I don't use one and haven't put time to analyze it, but maybe ur elbow might be too close to ur body? Not sure about this

Anyway you should go get some lessons with a coach and you should both work on a few of these things clean up ur strokes a bit, and then play play play as much as possible.

 

[CornOnTheCob]

Your spacing and positioning needs work, but thats completely normal for even players playing for 1 or 2 years and a long process.
In your open stance usually your body is leaning back and your on the backfoot alot of the times.
Not sure about bent arm forehands as I don't use one and haven't put time to analyze it, but maybe ur elbow might be too close to ur body? Not sure about this

Anyway you should go get some lessons with a coach and you should both work on a few of these things clean up ur strokes a bit, and then play play play as much as possible.

Thanks mate appreciate it

 

[NuBas]

Beautiful ground strokes, good footwork and good serve. You will pick up speed in no time, keep playing.

 

[Chas Tennis]

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serves:

Video has too much motion blur to see the racket. Video in bright sunlight to reduce the motion blur.

 

[NuBas]

Video has too much motion blur to see the racket. Video in bright sunlight to reduce the motion blur.

Please stop man, go out and play tennis. Until you reach his level, you won't be of any good honestly. You gotta understand how it works by playing not just observing.

 

[CornOnTheCob]

Please stop man, go out and play tennis. Until you reach his level, you won't be of any good honestly. You gotta understand how it works by playing not just observing.

do you two have beef?

Video has too much motion blur to see the racket. Video in bright sunlight to reduce the motion blur.

if you slow down the speed on youtube i think the key positions of the serve are pretty clear, but I have a better camera that I was planning to use to record more videos as I progress

 

[ChaelAZ]

Good video. Everything looks good overall and I am sure will sharpen up as you get back into ti.

Thanks for posting.

 

[NuBas]

do you two have beef?

No

 

[jga111]

one thing to work on: (which is what I’m working on too)

You’re off-arm on the forehand for the majority of shots is straight during your swing and weight transfer. Now there doesn’t have to be anything wrong with that, I’ve been doing it for years.

But if you look at the players on the ATP circuit and from what I’ve been told in a coaching session during my holiday in Portugal, the off-arm should have you point outwards towards your target which in effect will see you have a bent off-arm during the motion. Look for it now in videos and you will see exactly what I mean.

I suppose the benefit here will allow you a better balance during the motion and weight transfer AND quicker transition to ready position with both hands on racket (if that’s what you want to do).

Experimenting myself on this...

 

[Chas Tennis]

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if you slow down the speed on youtube i think the key positions of the serve are pretty clear, but I have a better camera that I was planning to use to record more videos as I progress

I don't agree that your racket can be seen when it moves fast approaching impact.

What time of your serve shows the racket approaching impact?

I have analyzed many serves on TW. I point out what I think are differences between high level strokes and the poster's strokes.

Google: serve behind Chas
Search TW: serve behind Chas Tennis
Search: internal shoulder rotation Chas

That's twice NuBas flared up for some reason when I try to tell new posters how to make their videos better. The other week he also flared up about a backhand observation that I have been advocating that readers pay attention to. I asked him what he had specifically and he replied but did not have anything to say. Waste of my time and the reader's.

Do you need protection from the posters when one of them tells you how to improve your video? From the technical side there is about 100X as much light in direct sunlight as in indoor court lighting. Your camera's automatic exposure control will select a faster shutter almost always in brighter light. There is a publication on the internet on indoor court lighting and sunlight can be looked up. Your motion blur is starting already at low speed.

Be skeptical of posters analyses including mine.

 

[Friedman Whip]

Forehand looks very good. 2H backhand looks good. I notice when you hit a couple of 1H backhand slices the ball floats up way too high which usually indicates not a good grip for that shot.

 

[CornOnTheCob]

I don't agree that your racket can be seen when it moves fast approaching impact.

What time of your serve shows the racket approaching impact?

I have analyzed many serves on TW. I point out what I think are differences between high level strokes and the poster's strokes.

Google: serve behind Chas
Search TW: serve behind Chas Tennis
Search: internal shoulder rotation Chas

That's twice NuBas flared up for some reason when I try to tell new posters how to make their videos better. The other week he also flared up about a backhand observation that I have been advocating that readers pay attention to. I asked him what he had specifically and he replied but did not have anything to say. Waste of my time and the reader's.

Do you need protection from the posters when one of them tells you how to improve your video? From the technical side there is about 100X as much light in direct sunlight as in indoor court lighting. Your camera's automatic exposure control will select a faster shutter almost always in brighter light. There is a publication on the internet on indoor court lighting and sunlight can be looked up. Your motion blur is starting already at low speed.

Be skeptical of posters analyses including mine.

yeah I searched you up after I initially replied and now i understand your method of critique.

I figured since the you could see my setup and trophy position etc. that would be enough but you're right that moment of impact can't be seen clearly.

 

[CornOnTheCob]

Forehand looks very good. 2H backhand looks good. I notice when you hit a couple of 1H backhand slices the ball floats up way too high which usually indicates not a good grip for that shot.

during my hiatus I hurt my left wrist weightlifting and my 2hbh feels really unnatural now. I have thought about switch to a 1hbh for giggles and I think i've been hitting them well. Topspin of course though, as you pointed out my slices need a lot of work

 

[Friedman Whip]

during my hiatus I hurt my left wrist weightlifting and my 2hbh feels really unnatural now. I have thought about switch to a 1hbh for giggles and I think i've been hitting them well. Topspin of course though, as you pointed out my slices need a lot of work

It's hard to tell from just one or two swings but it looks like a small grip change would also help your topspin backhand shot. It looks as if you're hitting the topspin BH and slice BH with about the same grip so moving your grips on those two shots to a little more of a standard backhand grip would help both shots. IMNSHO.

 

[Chas Tennis]

yeah I searched you up after I initially replied and now i understand your method of critique.

I figured since the you could see my setup and trophy position etc. that would be enough but you're right that moment of impact can't be seen clearly.

The first thing that I do is screen for a Waiter's Tray error. Over 50% of active tennis players have a WT. The Trophy Position of a WT can be very similar to a high level serve as far as I know. But if the racket faces the sky at Big L Position it is not a high level serve.

Hi Tech Tennis webpages on WT and Big L P.

 

[StringSnapper]

Video has too much motion blur to see the racket. Video in bright sunlight to reduce the motion blur.

The racquet is blurry but given the rest of how his body is moving, i'd say he's not waiters tray. I just used the frame by frame thing on youtube, his serve looks like a great stroke

 

[Chas Tennis]

The racquet is blurry but given the rest of how his body is moving, i'd say he's not waiters tray. I just used the frame by frame thing on youtube, his serve looks like a great stroke

Why?

 

[Curious]

What's up yall,

I played tennis for 4 years back and high school and have been on a 3 hiatus. I'm looking to get back into playing and just bought 2 Pure Strike 16x19's. Still working on getting crisper footwork and getting better timing but I was wondering I could get some comments and critiques on how my strokes and serve look so far.

In high school I has exclusively doubles so my groundstrokes aren't that well developed yet.

hitting forehands:

serves:

Very very nice hitting, even better light and quick feet.

 

[Sardines]

Anything specific about my ground strokes jump out to you right off the bat?

Yes, your non-hitting arm actually impedes your follow through on a few shots. The rotation, once it hits the upper torso, should be accompanied by the non-hitting arm adding to the rotation force. You are losing a bit of rotation torque by the non-hitting arm flopping down.
Your serve actually does utilize the arm as a counter balance too much that your body opens up a tad too soon as you contact the ball, losing a bit of torque and also straining your shoulder slightly.

 

[CornOnTheCob]

Yes, your non-hitting arm actually impedes your follow through on a few shots. The rotation, once it hits the upper torso, should be accompanied by the non-hitting arm adding to the rotation force. You are losing a bit of rotation torque by the non-hitting arm flopping down.
Your serve actually does utilize the arm as a counter balance too much that your body opens up a tad too soon as you contact the ball, losing a bit of torque and also straining your shoulder slightly.

Yeah I see what you mean. Should I think about "shoving" my off-arm elbow back to help correct my current tendencies?

 

[Sardines]

Yeah I see what you mean. Should I think about "shoving" my off-arm elbow back to help correct my current tendencies?

Just think of it as part of the forward rotation.
Your backhand stroke is also impeded at the hips, since your upper torso rotates but the hips stay. You don't do that with your forehand. If I were picky, I'd say you come round too much on the forehand, but not enough on the backhand.

 

[CornOnTheCob]

Just think of it as part of the forward rotation.
Your backhand stroke is also impeded at the hips, since your upper torso rotates but the hips stay. You don't do that with your forehand. If I were picky, I'd say you come round too much on the forehand, but not enough on the backhand.

Yeah. My footwork on the backhand side had been ingrained into me by my high school coach who was a really old school, closed stance only, type of guy, which is funny because I feel the most comfortable hitting pretty open stance 2hbh's. My 1hbh has been starting to look a lot better and I feel like I can hit it better as far as spin and placement.