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Stupendous1HBH

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TheAssassin

Legend
Its your time to be bored then this year, since you dont like either Fedal or think any of these young up and coming players are intereating.
At least our whining about boredom now is almost nonexistent compared to what you guys were doing in the previous two years. :D And I actually like Federer. His comeback after a long break and great results despite some tough draws made sure 2017 has some great storyline if the rest turns out to be snoresville.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
At least our whining about boredom now is almost nonexistent compared to what you guys were doing in the previous two years. :D And I actually like Federer. His comeback after a long break and great results despite some tough draws made sure 2017 has some great storyline if the rest turns out to be snoresville.
Nah, you are not any better than any of us that says particular players are boring. You continously put down other players, more than many other of us. And id someone dear to say anything negative about your favorite you will jump right at them ;)
 

Sexy Fed

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I was joking this is one of the strongest years. I look forward to Wimbledon. Fed - Nadal final. It would be cool.
 

TheAssassin

Legend
Nah, you are not any better than any of us that says particular players are boring. You continously put down other players, more than many other of us. And id someone dear to say anything negative about your favorite you will jump right at them ;)
I don't put anyone down. Me recently saying that Nadal didn't have to break a sweat to dominate the last few months is not putting him down. You can only beat who is in front of you. And until I or any of my guys say that tennis is dying just because our favs are doing badly while the "wrong" players are dominating, we are better. Sorry. :cool:
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
I don't put anyone down. Me recently saying that Nadal didn't have to break a sweat to dominate the last few months is not putting him down. You can only beat who is in front of you. And until I or any of my guys say that tennis is dying just because our favs are doing badly while the "wrong" players are dominating, we are better. Sorry. :cool:
LOL
Back to the beginning
Never ending story anyways
 

fundrazer

G.O.A.T.
After Miami I realized not much had changed except nadal and Fred replaced Novak and Murray as top dogs for now. Everything else is roughly the same.

I'm still very impressed with Rogers AO run considering the draw, but overall the tour itself just feels not so strong.
 
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JRAJ1988

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The big 3 plus Murray with the addition of Wawrinka (To me now Murray and Wawrinka are in the same bracket, Murray more consistent, Wawrinka inconsistent yet bigger match player) have been dominating tennis since 2008, best of 3 set high profile tournaments have them around, slams have them around.

I want the youngens to step up, I want Zverev Jr to be more consistent, Kyrgios wake up, Thiem do well and co but it's not the top dogs fault if nobody wants to step up.
 

Jonas78

Legend
Pretty much the same if you look at the depth. As some people seem seem to think, the strength of the field isnt defined by Djoker playing good or bad.

Im a Fed-fan and also like Rafa, but Fed winning AO in his comeback as 35y, and Rafa being more dominant than in his peak, doesnt give the impression of a strong field.
 

Jonas78

Legend
In 2015/16 your thread would have at least 3 pages in half an hour. Now, fedal fanboys are not interested that much.
Well you are almost right, i wrote about this as the "perfect truce" earlier;). None of the fanbases of the big4 are really interested in calling it weak imo.

Fedal - well as you said...
Djoker - well, saying 2017 is weak youre also saying 2015/2016 was weak:)
Murray - world nr 1, dont want to be on top of a weak era.
 
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NoleFam

Bionic Poster
According to statistics yes arguably his most efficient run to the final. Not his highest level by a long shot.

Tbh Fed only had chances because Djokovic wasn't playing brilliantly just good enough to get it done. Fed abandoned his winning Cincy strategy and just played tentatively in general especially on BPs but Nole was very clutch on serve too.

He tried his SABR strategy but he got burned by Djokovic with two well timed lobs and he missed a couple of SABRs as well. So he basically abandoned that strategy. What hurt him most in that match was his breakpoint conversion rate because I thought he played well.
 

Sexy Fed

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Pretty much the same if you look at the depth. As some people seem seem to think, the strength of the field isnt defined by Djoker playing good or bad.

Im a Fed-fan and also like Rafa, but Fed winning AO in his comeback as 35y, and Rafa being more dominant than in his peak, doesnt give the impression of a strong field.
Genau das !!! Rafa ist dominant wie in 2008 und Federer winning AO in 35 y respekt aber möglich nur mit Gonsalez vor 10 Jahren
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
He tried his SABR strategy but he got burned by Djokovic with two well timed lobs and he missed a couple of SABRs as well. So he basically abandoned that strategy. What hurt him most in that match was his breakpoint conversion rate because I thought he played well.

Fed would have done a lot better if he used his 2017 AO semi-SABR tactic of stepping in but only to drive the ball through the court then step back, rather than always half volleying then attacking the net.

He also abandoned S&V and didn't approach the net enough, or intelligently enough either.

His ground game was almost non existent and he got owned by Djokovic from the baseline.
 

Sexy Fed

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Rafa was dominant as in 2008, A Feder as 10 years ago. Simply it is not normal. Djoko Murray domination after the fall is normal. Normally it would be to come to a new young tennis players, but appeared to dominate the old guys
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Fed would have done a lot better if he used his 2017 AO semi-SABR tactic of stepping in but only to drive the ball through the court then step back, rather than always half volleying then attacking the net.

He also abandoned S&V and didn't approach the net enough, or intelligently enough either.

His ground game was almost non existent and he got owned by Djokovic from the baseline.

Those types of strategies might have worked against different opponents but against Djokovic at the height of his powers is another thing entirely. He used that strategy to great precision at Cincinnati right before the US Open but Djokovic had prepared for it by the time they met at the US Open. He also tried coming in on Djokovic at 2016 AO but Djokovic passed him almost everytime. It's easy to say that would have worked because he was successful against other players with that tactic but Djokovic was a different situation entirely.
 
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Deleted member 307496

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I would not agree that 2014 is a bad year. Yes weaker than in 2012 or 2013. What is happening in 2017 is not normal. Ok collapse Djokovic and Murray to be expected. But that is dominated by Federer and Nadal is ridiculous. That virtually no one younger in sight
Second half of 2014 was pretty bad.
 
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Deleted member 307496

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I love how people still somehow believe the reason why Federer and Nadal are still having dominant spells is due to a lack of up and coming players.

Do they not have eyes? When they watch these geriatrics stumble around on court, playing like Gods.. are they thinking 'great shot, but only cos weak era'?

The 21 year old versions of 'the big 5' wouldn't beat their current versions, with the possible exception of Nadal.. so why on earth do they expect the latest crop of youngsters to do it?

It's not a weak era.. we're still in the midst of an absurdly strong one.
So 21 year old Fed who won Wimbledon and took a dump on Agassi wouldn't beat himself today? LOL.
 
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Deleted member 307496

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Rafa was dominant as in 2008, A Feder as 10 years ago. Simply it is not normal. Djoko Murray domination after the fall is normal. Normally it would be to come to a new young tennis players, but appeared to dominate the old guys
Murray is not good enough to dominate which is why we are left with the void we have today. He is the kind of guy that has to work extremely hard to take No. 1.
 

Sexy Fed

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Murray is not good enough to dominate which is why we are left with the void we have today. He is the kind of guy that has to work extremely hard to take No. 1.
Andy was a true No. 1. He had Slam WTF in several masters. Federer Nadal Djokovic Andy is a natural sequence but this now seems to me as the weakest years in the last 10 or more
 
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Deleted member 307496

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Andy was a true No. 1. He had Slam WTF in several masters. Federer Nadal Djokovic Andy is a natural sequence but this now seems to me as the weakest years in the last 10 or more
He is not a dominate No. 1 like the others.
 

Sexy Fed

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I forgot to mention that Andy and Djoko are out of business, Federer plays periodically. I do not want anything to take away Nadal, but I expect that Rafa plays second week of Wimbledon, or even to conquer it. E field is so bad
 
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Deleted member 307496

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I think you're wrong here he is dominating but not as Djoko Fed and Nadal. Andy had a year as Agassi and Sampras when they were No1
No, he had a year like Hewitt or Roddick when they ended No. 1. Agassi has had a couple of multi slam years, it's a joke to compare him to Sampras cause most of his good years he did win multiple slams.
 

Sexy Fed

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Agassi had only one year with two Slams a strong Sampras never a season with three Slams. Their dominance is quite similar to Andys domination
Murray hat 1 Slam 2 Slamsfinals Masters WTF title . Sehr gut Olympik gold
 
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