What to do in this situation

Ballinbob

Hall of Fame
did you play a challenge match during tryouts and then have this happen? That must really suck if that happened though.

I personally would beat the kid up, but that would get you nowhere. I'd tell your coach and talk to the kid who lied about the score and sort things out of him. Start with your coach though

edit-omg i forgot to ask you how tryouts went. Did you make varsity/get the position you wanted?
 
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meowmix

Hall of Fame
Call the opponent a lie-er to his/her face, and list the score. Then, recount the last point. After all, whoever won the last point won the match.
 

Steady Eddy

Legend
Once I played a guy and I announced the score as 4-1 and he said, "No, it's 1 all". When I pointed out that we must have played an odd number of games because we'd just switched sides, then he relented. But since then I've always wondered what would happen if an opponent said, "Yes, it's 5-0, but I've got 5, not you." According to the code, you should spin a racquet to see who gets the lead. That seems very unfair to me. Also, whenever I can I use the numbered cards to keep track of the game score. It's bad enough when someone cheats you out of a point, but I'd hate to see them take several games.
 
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woodrow1029

Guest
Once I played a guy and I announced the score as 4-1 and he said, "No, it's 1 all". When I pointed out that we must have played an odd number of games because we'd just switched sides, then he relented. But since then I've always wondered what would happen if an opponent said, "Yes, it's 5-0, but I've got 5, not you." According to the code, you should spin a racquet to see who gets the lead. That seems very unfair to me. Also, whenever I can I use the numbered cards to keep track of the game score. It's bad enough when someone cheats you out of a point, but I'd hate to see them take several games.
You only use the racket spin in very extreme conditions. There are 2 other procedures to use first. You recount the points and games that you can remember and only replay the disputed games, or you play from a mutually agreed upon score.
 

Steady Eddy

Legend
You only use the racket spin in very extreme conditions. There are 2 other procedures to use first. You recount the points and games that you can remember and only replay the disputed games, or you play from a mutually agreed upon score.
Yeah, it's never happened to me (so far). But what if I'm beating someone 5-0, thinking it will be a bagel, and at the crossover I say, "Ok, so it's love, five" and the opponent says, "Right, but it's five serving love." and, incredibly, he doesn't relent on the issue? This seems a real worry because another time, after winning a doubles set 6-4, the opponent claimed the set wasn't over because he had held his serve, so we had to review all the games of the set to his satisfaction. I felt that when "5-4" was announced before the game started, that was enough. If 5-4 wasn't right, he should have spoken then. I get tired recreating entire games and sets for people who aren't paying attention.
 

Steady Eddy

Legend
here's an idea. record it on your arm lol. every point as well.
In baseball, the catcher and shortstop have the responsibility of seeing to it that the other players know how many outs there are. They say things like, "Two down". So in a similiar manner I always speak up at the cross-over, I'll say, "4 serving 1" (some players never learn that the serving team's score is stated first, so they'll say "1-3", and after losing, say "1-4", forgetting that their opponents are now serving).

I won't say the point score unless I'm serving. That is unless people demonstrate that they're having trouble remembering the score, after a couple of mistakes I'll take over that responsibility also. Mistakes happen often in certain situations. If the server gets behind 0-40 and then wins two points in a row, making it 30-40, watch how often they'll say "40-30". Since they've forgotten what happened in the 1st three points, they figure, "We must have won at least one of them." People who know me, know that I always know the score, and that when I correct them, I'm not guessing. But I hate a spacey opponent who doesn't know the point score or game score, but still wants to argue about it.
 
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woodrow1029

Guest
Yeah, it's never happened to me (so far). But what if I'm beating someone 5-0, thinking it will be a bagel, and at the crossover I say, "Ok, so it's love, five" and the opponent says, "Right, but it's five serving love." and, incredibly, he doesn't relent on the issue? This seems a real worry because another time, after winning a doubles set 6-4, the opponent claimed the set wasn't over because he had held his serve, so we had to review all the games of the set to his satisfaction. I felt that when "5-4" was announced before the game started, that was enough. If 5-4 wasn't right, he should have spoken then. I get tired recreating entire games and sets for people who aren't paying attention.
Granted it's tiring and annoying when this happens, unfortunately that is the most fair way to do it in an unofficiated match with a scoring dispute. In a perfect world, there would be a chair umpire on every USTA tournament match.
 

The_Steak

Rookie
Hah, On saturday I was cheated 3 games.

It was supposed to be 5-2 but my oppponent flipped it to 3-2. Pissed the hell out of me and messed up my mental game.
 

wihamilton

Hall of Fame
You just won an unsupervised match but when you go to report the score, your opponent lies and says he won the game

I would just calming tell the ref that my opponent isn't telling the truth and explain the situation to him / her. Not much else you can do. Hopefully, the ref is smart and will make a reasonable decision. Further, if the ref knows you and you've always played fair / acted maturely the ref is probably going to buy your version of events.
 

Steady Eddy

Legend
Hah, On saturday I was cheated 3 games.

It was supposed to be 5-2 but my oppponent flipped it to 3-2. Pissed the hell out of me and messed up my mental game.
You're right. It's more than the difference of the scores, once that happens your concentration is ruined, and tennis is a game of concentration. People who do this stuff ruin it for others, even if they don't do it on purpose.
 
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